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November 26th, 2007, 10:20 AM | #1 |
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Recording Drama with limited mixer setup
(Note I've also posted this at dv.com to maximise feedback)
Hi Guys, Just wanted to verify my methodology for a short I'm about to film. Heres my kit: Canon XH A1 2*Sony UWP C1's lavs 1*Audio Technica AT897 1 boom pole 1 Marenus Mixer (4 balanced MIC inputs) with option of either line or mic output of the stereo mix. I was going to have the 2 sony lavs plugged up to the mixer along with the boom and mix accordingly with the mix going to one of the canon's1 xlr inputs. The mixer is effectively acting as my pre-amp with a line level feed going to the canon. My issue was about the lack of individual feeds to seperate channels limited of course by my mixers single output as opposed to multiple mono outputs. IS there a better way of achieving seperate clean channels? The film in question only features 2 actors so I could ask them not to overlap too much thus giving me a fairly clean audio situation but I don't like limiting their peformances because I haven't sorted my kit out. I've considered using boom recorder on my macbook pro but would require some kind of mixable firewire control surface with fairly decent faders that can take a line feed. What would you do in my position? Thank you Matt |
November 26th, 2007, 11:22 AM | #2 | |
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Why record all three channels? If you have a lav for each actor, forget the shotgun and record 2 iso channels, put one actor on channel 1 and the other on channel 2, positioning them in the final mix during post. OR forget the lavs and cover the scene with the shotgun - of course that requires a boom operator who can swing the mic to follow the dialog.. Even if you use a multichannel recorder like BoomRecorder or a SD744, dialog mixing on location is a perilous art and you'd be better served by dedicating a track to each mic in isolation and making mix and pan decisions at leisure in the edit room.
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November 26th, 2007, 01:30 PM | #3 |
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Firstly,
relying on lavs alone is not the path to wisdom, but they are useful, thus the use of a boom. Second, My boom op is not the best so the lavs give him some backup if he misses dialogue. Third, I want to mix my levels necessitating the mixer, which as mentioned before is restricted to one output. However Jay Rose over on DV.com has mentioned I could pan to left and right to preserve the independent channels. Anybody know if this is possible with the A1? Thanks Matt |
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I've been looking for info on your mixer on the Web and can't find anything - googling "Marenus" doesn't turn up any audio manufacturers or brands, Are you saying it has 4 mic inputs and 1 mono output or does it have 1 2-channel stereo output?
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With you now Steve. Actually it has 3 inputs and one stereo output. I was mistaken thinking it has 4 inputs. I haven't used it much. It's a marenius though I know they are not well known, it does seems to be well built. I need to research all of this a little more.
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This might help with more info about the mixer
http://www.marenius.se/indexeng.htm It's a Swedish company. I would second Steve's suggestion. Send your mics through your mixer. Then pan left or right as is needed to keep the mics seperate. |
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Thanks Hsien Yong,
Yeah that's the mixer. Mines the mm3100 mono mixer, which pretty much means I can't pan left and right for seperate channels. Unfortunate that. Looks like I might take the laptop route for a one of. Time to dust off that clapper board. Matt |
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