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Joseph Ivey · January 13th, 2005, 11:54 AM

I am looking for the proper audio equipment and thought you guys might be some help. I need something to use when I shoot interviews, and short films. I have the on camera mic that came with my Canon XL-2 to catch the ambient sounds if need be, but I am not too clear on what my best option would be otherwise. I have looked at the AT897 - Short Condenser Shotgun Microphone and the Azden SGM-1X - Super-Cardioid Shotgun Condenser Microphone, either I would mount to a boom pole and plug directly into my XL-2 (unless there is a better option that is reasonably cheap). I am also looking for a wireless lav mic for really wide shots that a boom can't get into. I am looking for quality equipment that is reasonably inexpensive.

John Lee · January 13th, 2005, 03:19 PM

If money is a big issue, you should look at the Sony UWP C1 wireless lav set up. It's pretty cheap for its quality at $500. But I think it is equally important to buy a good boom as well.

I use the UWP C1 all the time when I"m doing interviews, and for long shots when I need sound which would be nearly impossible with a boom. But I also have a shotgun mounted on the XL1S all the time to pick up ambient noise.

Also, if you're looking to shoot films, the wireless option is not going to be as versitile a solution as a good shotgun unless you start buying multiple lavs.

It works great for interviews though.

Ty Ford · January 13th, 2005, 05:40 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Joseph Ivey : I am looking for the proper audio equipment and thought you guys might be some help. I need something to use when I shoot interviews, and short films. I have the on camera mic that came with my Canon XL-2 to catch the ambient sounds if need be, but I am not too clear on what my best option would be otherwise. I have looked at the AT897 - Short Condenser Shotgun Microphone and the Azden SGM-1X - Super-Cardioid Shotgun Condenser Microphone, either I would mount to a boom pole and plug directly into my XL-2 (unless there is a better option that is reasonably cheap). I am also looking for a wireless lav mic for really wide shots that a boom can't get into. I am looking for quality equipment that is reasonably inexpensive. -->>>

Going from a boom mic like the AT897 right into the camera is tons better than camera mounting it. For really good audio, though, you need a mixer with a good limiter. It lets you set higher levels, which gets you higher above the noise floor of your camera's audio section.

AGC and ALC circuits don't do the trick. For the beginner, my "go to" suggestion is the Sound Devices MixPre. www.sounddevices.com

A separate mixer also lets you make volume adjustments during a take without having to bother the camera operator. Is this necessary? Quite often it is!

Nervous about how to interface a mixer with your camera? Don't be.I have part of a chapter of my "Audio Bootcamp Field Guide" just about that. See below.

Regards,

Ty Ford

Joseph Ivey · January 13th, 2005, 07:35 PM

In theory though could I get away with plugging directly into the camera for smaller productions (most would be VO for commercials) until I could afford a MixPre? How much does one cost anyway?

Ty Ford · January 13th, 2005, 09:06 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Joseph Ivey : In theory though could I get away with plugging directly into the camera for smaller productions (most would be VO for commercials) until I could afford a MixPre? How much does one cost anyway? -->>>

I don't sell em. Google and find out.

Ty

January 13th, 2005, 11:54 AM	#1
Joseph Ivey Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nashville Posts: 89	Proper Audio equipment I am looking for the proper audio equipment and thought you guys might be some help. I need something to use when I shoot interviews, and short films. I have the on camera mic that came with my Canon XL-2 to catch the ambient sounds if need be, but I am not too clear on what my best option would be otherwise. I have looked at the AT897 - Short Condenser Shotgun Microphone and the Azden SGM-1X - Super-Cardioid Shotgun Condenser Microphone, either I would mount to a boom pole and plug directly into my XL-2 (unless there is a better option that is reasonably cheap). I am also looking for a wireless lav mic for really wide shots that a boom can't get into. I am looking for quality equipment that is reasonably inexpensive.

January 13th, 2005, 03:19 PM	#2
John Lee Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 152	If money is a big issue, you should look at the Sony UWP C1 wireless lav set up. It's pretty cheap for its quality at $500. But I think it is equally important to buy a good boom as well. I use the UWP C1 all the time when I"m doing interviews, and for long shots when I need sound which would be nearly impossible with a boom. But I also have a shotgun mounted on the XL1S all the time to pick up ambient noise. Also, if you're looking to shoot films, the wireless option is not going to be as versitile a solution as a good shotgun unless you start buying multiple lavs. It works great for interviews though. __________________ John Lee Levelse7en@gmail.com

January 13th, 2005, 05:40 PM	#3
Ty Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Posts: 2,337	Re: Proper Audio equipment <<<-- Originally posted by Joseph Ivey : I am looking for the proper audio equipment and thought you guys might be some help. I need something to use when I shoot interviews, and short films. I have the on camera mic that came with my Canon XL-2 to catch the ambient sounds if need be, but I am not too clear on what my best option would be otherwise. I have looked at the AT897 - Short Condenser Shotgun Microphone and the Azden SGM-1X - Super-Cardioid Shotgun Condenser Microphone, either I would mount to a boom pole and plug directly into my XL-2 (unless there is a better option that is reasonably cheap). I am also looking for a wireless lav mic for really wide shots that a boom can't get into. I am looking for quality equipment that is reasonably inexpensive. -->>> Going from a boom mic like the AT897 right into the camera is tons better than camera mounting it. For really good audio, though, you need a mixer with a good limiter. It lets you set higher levels, which gets you higher above the noise floor of your camera's audio section. AGC and ALC circuits don't do the trick. For the beginner, my "go to" suggestion is the Sound Devices MixPre. www.sounddevices.com A separate mixer also lets you make volume adjustments during a take without having to bother the camera operator. Is this necessary? Quite often it is! Nervous about how to interface a mixer with your camera? Don't be.I have part of a chapter of my "Audio Bootcamp Field Guide" just about that. See below. Regards, Ty Ford __________________ Ty Ford's Audio Bootcamp Field Guide Ty Ford's Audio Video Blog

January 13th, 2005, 09:06 PM	#5
Ty Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Posts: 2,337	<<<-- Originally posted by Joseph Ivey : In theory though could I get away with plugging directly into the camera for smaller productions (most would be VO for commercials) until I could afford a MixPre? How much does one cost anyway? -->>> I don't sell em. Google and find out. Ty __________________ Ty Ford's Audio Bootcamp Field Guide Ty Ford's Audio Video Blog

January 13th, 2005, 07:35 PM	#4
Joseph Ivey Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nashville Posts: 89	In theory though could I get away with plugging directly into the camera for smaller productions (most would be VO for commercials) until I could afford a MixPre? How much does one cost anyway?