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John L. Miller April 8th, 2007 09:39 PM

Royalty-Free Music BEST Place?
 
Well, I have been researching for days to try and find the BEST place to obtain some royalty free music for my summer project coming up. I am willing to pay for it, but my Gosh! Some of these sights want 50.00 to use one track for 4 minutes at a time! That really adds up. Some sights offer 10 tracks for 100.00 and you can do whatever you want with it. Thats not too bad, but most of the time, 6 out of 10 tracks I wouldn't use on a dog video. So, without further complaining, I will ask my fellow members Where is a DECENT place to get some good Film Score? Tell me what companies have I missed, who is the best for the money? Thanks! J

John L. Miller April 11th, 2007 08:04 PM

I also purchased all 700 plus tracks(about 100 titles arranged differently) from Stock20.com. These are different from your typical orchestral stuff, mostly piano, guitar....180.00 bucks for the whole site. Great deal, and package this with the Hark Music Productions package and you have the orchestral filmscore stuff and good intro and ending stuff for independent films..I am very satisfied.

Michael Liebergot April 12th, 2007 07:15 AM

John try Stock20.com

Great pricing and very good selection.
All original compositions.

Kevin Randolph April 27th, 2007 02:22 PM

I'm looking specifically for a site with plenty of Christian Rock royalty free music for a youth ministry program video. I've found a couple songs on some of the sites listed previously in this thread, but not what I need. Any ideas on a royalty free site with plenty of Christian Rock?

Thanks for the help...

Colin Willsher April 28th, 2007 03:37 AM

Kevin,

I think your best bet might be This page at ProductionTrax.com.

It's not all great, as this site is a bit of a free for all in terms of allowing anyone to upload material but certainly they have this genre well-covered.

Good luck!

Colin

P.S. For anything else check out my own site below :-)

Richard Andrewski April 28th, 2007 04:47 AM

www.musicbakery.com
www.freshmusic.com
www.sounddogs.com (have downloadable individual sound effects too)
www.iamusic.com
www.uniquetracks.com
www.flyinghands.com
www.opuzz.com

I've used some from all of them. They all have many different kinds suited to different tastes, moods, etc. I tend to like these too because they all have download options which I prefer over buying CDs.

Brian Ladue May 1st, 2007 12:52 AM

Anyone try Digital Juice's backtraxx music libraries? It looks pretty good, quite the selection, over +1000 songs..... http://www.digitaljuice.com/products...p?cid=1&pvid=1

James Hooey May 29th, 2007 06:53 AM

Revostock has royalty free music for $10 per song. Good selection and a good website for searching and previewing. They also sell video clips in various formats for quite cheap as well.

Here's a couple mmusic examples:

http://www.revostock.com/FileCloseup...html?&ID=15069

or if your more country

http://www.revostock.com/FileCloseup...html?&ID=16648

Steve House May 29th, 2007 11:03 AM

Another source of excellent music at reasonable licensing fees is Magnatunes.com

Douglas Joseph February 26th, 2009 09:18 PM

I've gone through 100s of those songs, and I've found maybe 3, which that are decent. The rest is, yeah... There are no sites out there that have music for sale you would actually hear in a commercial spot, or movie, etc. I'm talking like, music you'd actually wanna hear. Not some "corporate loop synth, zappy weirdness". Haha. That's my frustration speaking. And, I actually electronic music, just not what I've been finding on these sites. It's very frustrating, because I know there are sites out there with good quality music; it's just a matter of finding them. I don't want to settle, and sell my self short and my clients for using low grade music like this. If anybody has had any luck finding some sweet music, please let me know. The dropdrop composer on revostock is by far the best I've found so far. Sorry for the rant, and I apologize if I've offended anybody. I hope I haven't. You guys rock.

-douglas joseph.

Andrew McNeeley February 27th, 2009 01:18 AM

If you guys are ever doing a bigger production consider getting a blanket license from these guys- Audio Network - Production Music Library

Its $395 but they've got tons of good tracks and you can use as many as you want in one single production.

Ken Campbell February 27th, 2009 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Ladue (Post 670417)
Anyone try Digital Juice's backtraxx music libraries? It looks pretty good, quite the selection, over +1000 songs..... Digital Juice - The Leader in Royalty Free Professional Animations, Stock Footage, Music, Layered Graphics, Clip Art and Templates

I have quite a few of their stacktraxx libraries, which are the multitrack versions of the backtraxx. I find them to be of better than average quality and work fine for many situations.

I can recommend the Strata Series from Smartsound.

For those familiar with music production, better results can be had when mixing the StackTraxx and/or Strata Series smartsounds with other loop libraries inside Acid or Reaper. This way you can mix and match or eliminate a drum track and replace it with a much better groove, etc.

Ben Crosbie February 27th, 2009 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Douglas Joseph (Post 1019158)
I've gone through 100s of those songs, and I've found maybe 3, which that are decent. The rest is, yeah... There are no sites out there that have music for sale you would actually hear in a commercial spot, or movie, etc. I'm talking like, music you'd actually wanna hear. Not some "corporate loop synth, zappy weirdness". Haha. That's my frustration speaking. And, I actually electronic music, just not what I've been finding on these sites. It's very frustrating, because I know there are sites out there with good quality music; it's just a matter of finding them. I don't want to settle, and sell my self short and my clients for using low grade music like this. If anybody has had any luck finding some sweet music, please let me know. The dropdrop composer on revostock is by far the best I've found so far. Sorry for the rant, and I apologize if I've offended anybody. I hope I haven't. You guys rock.

-douglas joseph.

If you want music that you would hear in a commercial spot, go to killertracks.com. My corporate clients like to use their music, and I always find myself hearing the same songs in TV commercials, news shows, etc. I think it has the best music, but it's not royalty free unfortunately, so quality comes at a price.

Steve House February 27th, 2009 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben Crosbie (Post 1019376)
If you want music that you would hear in a commercial spot, go to killertracks.com. My corporate clients like to use their music, and I always find myself hearing the same songs in TV commercials, news shows, etc. I think it has the best music, but it's not royalty free unfortunately, so quality comes at a price.

Just a bit of clarification ... "royalty free" does not mean the music is used for free. It means you don't have to continue to pay on-going royalty payments each time the piece you've used it in is aired or viewed. You pay a single fee to license it and that's it. Compared to non-royalty free where each time the piece is aired, the broadcaster will pay a royalty to BMI or ASCAP, etc, which in turn is then distributed to the copyright owners.

Vasco Dones February 27th, 2009 11:41 AM

Stock Music - Royalty Free Music with an Edge
not the cheapest guy in town ($30 per track)
but a lot of surprisingly good tracks.

Best

Vasco

Chris Swanberg February 28th, 2009 01:49 AM

I would second Ken's comments about Digital Juice Stacktacks, and Sonic Fire's strata series. I have not gone as far as he has, but the ability to render each instrument set layer and play with them gives you more flexibility than simply using a one layer track from somewhere else. Sony Cinescore is also not bad, but has much less music to offer and at a higher price. (Pricewise DJ is lowest, SonicFire next and Sony highest).

I often find myself going first to Digital Juice, then Sonic Fire then to other selections in my small but growing library. I would add that SONY will now allow individual track download/purchases for $10, which is a step forward. I just wish they had a bigger library.

ps. I just listened to Vasco's recommendation and was impressed.

Vasco Dones February 28th, 2009 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Swanberg (Post 1019841)
ps. I just listened to Vasco's recommendation and was impressed.

So was I, Chris, the first time I landed on their website, four years ago.
Then, looking for cheaper stuff, I've spent quite some time exploring
other RFM sites - and kept going back to stockmusic.net.
I'd be glad to have somebody suggest other sites offering the same quality...

Best

Vasco

Chris Swanberg February 28th, 2009 01:21 PM

Vasco, if by quality you mean real instruments (instead of synthesizer stuff) a good sample rate and nice scores, I think the ones I mentioned can provide quality stuff - I don't like ALL of their offerings (and there is some of that synth music here and there) but overall there is some stuff that easily meets THAT definition of "quality".

The opening score in this little clip posted for the UWOL challenge uses SonicFire and has gotten favorable response:

Glacier Park Film Project Early Trailer on Vimeo

Ken Campbell February 28th, 2009 02:29 PM

There is another source: local bands. Many will give you rights to their song in return for a credit. And there are many modern "composers" who can score stuff for cheap. Just ask in the Sonar and Cubase forums.

The only problem I have with complete scores is flexibility. For example, if someone is speaking I tend to like to take out all the mid range instruments that clash with the voice and often just leave the drums and bass at a lower volume. That's where these multi-track libraries come in handy, and especially SonicFirePro which can export also the individual sections within those single tracks. With little knowledge of Sony Acid or Reaper, scoring becomes much more powerful.

Vasco Dones February 28th, 2009 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Swanberg (Post 1020076)
Vasco, if by quality you mean real instruments (instead of synthesizer stuff) a good sample rate and nice scores, I think the ones I mentioned can provide quality stuff - I don't like ALL of their offerings (and there is some of that synth music here and there) but overall there is some stuff that easily meets THAT definition of "quality".
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Chris, "after careful reviewing"..., well: you sold me on Digital Juice and/or SonicFire.
Thanks for the very useful suggestion!
(lesson learned: never let a graphically off-putting website - Digital Juice - put you off...).
But I'd like to have your opinion on the following: the Sonicfire Pro software seems to give you extra flexibility, but their scores are pricier; the Digital Juice tracks sound very good and are cheaper, but the Jucier seems to have limited capabilities... Does that (if true) really make a difference? If you had to pick one (so as to profit from bundling), which way would you go first: Digital Juice or SonicFire?

All the best

Vasco
PS: greetings to the Big Austrian fellow over there :-)
(we proudly managed to get rid of those Austrians back in 1291...)

Chris Swanberg March 1st, 2009 12:13 AM

Vasco..

Let's start by saying that in the imperfect world of Royalty Free "canned music" some of the important things to look for are real instruments, on separately renderable tracks and some ability to manipulate track length to a custom length. There are other criteria and I am only picking a few of my most important ones.

Using those criteria and looking at SonicFire Pro (SF or SFP) versus Digital Juice (DJ), Sonic Fire Pro wins. Why? Because they will assemble a cut on a song to a desired final time length, and Digital Juice won't do that. You can stretch a DJ piece a little, but you more or less are locked in to the length. Sonic Fire Pro also offers a neat little feature that will allow you to easily overlay a musical "crescendo" at any selected point in a track ("Add HIT") that I find useful in assembly editing with a soundtrack. They also offer a "mood" selector as well as a "variation" selector that will subtly alter the music, increasing the number of available renditions of any particular piece - again on Strata series only.When you have the right music in Sonic Fire you can easily make it fit in many different variations. An easily customizable program for music dummies like me.

Now... pluses for Digital Juice. First off, more of their stuff is layered. They have about 50 or so stacktracks albums out and all but a few are layered. Sonic Fire has a lot of offerings but not that many are layered (the so-called Strata series). Sonic Fire's price is also about twice the price of DJ's offerings and their "sales" are mainly non-layered stuff they seem to be trying to unload.

The good news is that you can "test drive" all of either's offerings before you buy. I'd only caution you to be sure that if you are listening to a SF cut you like and think you want to buy, know if it is multiple layered or not before you buy, many of their still are not.

I've only used Sony Cinescore a little, mainly because I like the ease of use and selection in DJ and SonicFire more, and I also think that SONY's music selections are overpriced compared to DJ and SF and also they do not offer much of a range of music *I* would find useable.

The Richard Band series in Sonic Fire is very nice, rich sounding music to my 'tin" ear. If you listened to that score for my "placeholder" clip, that was Richard Band Scoring Series 7 - "Heartland Americana".. I recently did a 30 second commercial where a DJ 30 second clip was perfect, really exactly perfect, and mainly due to the BIG selection they offer was I able to find such a nice fit of music to the idea. The :30 length was a no-brainer and so changing the length was not so important as in other situations. Ability to change the musical sound by using varying tracks was.

So for me, I have both, like both, use both. DJ is easier on the pocketbook though.

Hope this helps.

Chris

ps. If I could ONLY have ONE, and only had $100 to spend, I'd *start* with Digital juice.
pps. As I make longer movies I find the ability to customize a SFP score into many variations and use more of it in the main soundtrack is a plus.

Vasco Dones March 1st, 2009 04:20 PM

Thank you so much, Chris!
As soon as I'm done with Uncle Sam's paperwork
(and I have my "State of the Wallet" assessment ready)
I'll go for either one of'em
(or maybe both, courtesy of the aforementioned?)

Best regards

Vasco

Bruce Foreman March 3rd, 2009 07:06 AM

Vasco,

I have to second Chris' endorsement of Sonic Fire Pro and SmartSound music. The "Richard Band" series is incredibly rich sounding music, even his single layer stuff. I was lucky enough to catch that volume 7 "Scoring Suite" on a half price sale when they first introduced it for a week and so far have used that same track Chris used in two projects.

If I didn't have it I would pay full price for it today, it is that good.

Sonic Fire Pro 5 comes in two versions, the Express Tracks version often comes free with a single disk music purchase, but the Scoring Edition (which also includes the Express Tracks) is well worth the upgrade price.

I use two NLE's that use a SmartSound plug in so the music score can be laid in right in the video editor and that is convenient if you don't need to work with multi layered versions of the score, but having used the Scoring Edition as a "stand alone" I cannot imagine being without it. You can time the sequence to be scored in the NLE, go to SFP and mark the timeline. If you would like video to reference you can render a low res version of that portion and have SFP Scoring Edition show it in a small window while the score variation is being test played.

Incredible.

Vasco Dones March 5th, 2009 07:03 PM

Thank you so much, Bruce!

best

Vasco

Chris Swanberg March 5th, 2009 11:07 PM

After my last post, comparing Sonic Fire Pro and DJ, I got to feeling like I might have been a little unfair to SONY Cinescore - I mean while I disclaimed much experience, a re-reading of that post sounded like I was dissing it more than a little. That got me thinking, and with a little time on my hands I decided to jump headfirst into Cinescore and see what I had been missing. My timing worked out perfectly because SONY has a 35% off sale going, and also you can now "cherry pick" their entire music selection library for Cinescore and download any single song for roughtly $6.50..

So having spent a good long evening running through SONY's excellent tutorials and playing with Cinescore for a while, and then the next night picking up 8 really nice pieces of Cinescore music that are to my taste, I can perhaps bring a bit more "fairness" to the prior, mostly DJ and SFP focused discussion.

The final pps in that thread talked about being able to score longer pieces for longer films, and mentioned the benefits of SFP for that task. Well, SONY is as good, no wait, probably even better, than SFP in that regard. Let me give an example.

When I had a better sense of Cinescore, I was still plagued by the notion that a lot of their music failed to "grab" me. When I saw the sale and realized I could pick up individual titles from larger (and expensive) collections, I listened to darn near each and every one and selected 8 out of what were probably over 100 or so possible selections. (Maybe even more.) One of them was "Sun Stone". Let's use it as an example.

Sun Stone is a generalized musical theme. It has however, 19 (YES 19!) available variations, from "real flamenco" to and including "easy listening", "flutes intro" and 16 others.
Each can blend into the others, the musical theme is the same. Now if that isn't enough, there are 8 selectable "moods". In this case from "exotic" to "full band" to "guitar version" and 5 others. So far the permutations and combinations are already well over 100!

Each piece has a number of "sections" which you can further arrange to customize the piece even more. Finally you can adjust the tempo and intensity.

Now a lot of this is a lot like SFP, but to be honest it offers more variations and variety than SFP.

With the ability to purchase individual tracks (and especially on sale through this month) I'd have to add Cinescore as a very worthy contender for anyone needing true scoring software. It is more expensive than SFP but on sale not by much, especially considering what it has to offer.

After cherry picking SONY's Cinescore Music library, I now have some stuff I really like (but didn't want to buy a whole theme kit for one song before) and I will definitely be using it more in the future.

If SONY would reduce the price full time to the current levels and offer even more choices for their music, this one could become a staple in any film-makers arsenal.

If you are making 15 plus minute short films, or longer, SFP and Cinescore deserve a good look see as a departure point for your musical scoring needs. I have to admit that the extra $$ for Cinescore, even at the sale price levels, can be justified with the greater variations available to the filmmaker wanting a truly unique and custom score.

ps. I would point out though, that while SFP does not offer the variations that SONY does, SONY does not offer control over each instrumental channel like SFP does. SONY generally chooses certain instruments for you and lets you chose from their selected groupings. I encourage interested folks to visit both websites and indulge their curiosity. Both have excellent sites with a lot of hands on possibilities.

Bruce Foreman March 12th, 2009 10:52 PM

SmartSound special thru Mar 15th - 5 disk bundles!
 
The "deal of the week" 3 bundles of 5 disks per bundle. $99.95.

Bundle #1 would be one I would go for if I didn't already have the 2 Richard Band volumes offered in this one. Action and Dramatic between them have some very good cinematic scores. Click on the "listen" link to hear samples of the tracks on each volume.

Here is a link to the offer, and SonicFire Pro 5 "Express Tracks" is free with any of these bundles.

SmartSound Specials

Chris Swanberg March 13th, 2009 12:09 AM

Bruce... Thanks. I got their email earlier in the week and have been pondering maybe picking up one of their 3 selections of music... Mind you, it is not the end of the world that none of these is multi-layered, BUT... this is an example of what I said about their sales not including the multi layered stuff. NONE of the sale pieces are ML, and some of it is their earlier stuff. Good prices though if it fits your needs.

Nevertheless a heads up for the sale was A GOOD IDEA... thanks !

CHRIS

ps. The number 1 offering was my choice too. The Richard Band series is really good stuff.

Chris Swanberg March 17th, 2009 02:18 PM

New Smartsound sale.... $49.95 for strata series (multi-layered) including new releases. or 6 for $250.

Jeffrey Fuchs March 24th, 2009 11:24 AM

Best Music
 
Very good music at: Triple Scoop Music : Award-winning music for professional photographers and videographers! they have both vocal and intrumentals.

Chris Swanberg March 26th, 2009 09:03 PM

And a new (and finally decent) sale from SmartSound. This is a good priced sale with lots of multilayered stuff.

SmartSound Specials

Bruce Foreman March 29th, 2009 02:09 AM

Sunday last day of sale!
 
11:59 tonight the biggest sale SmartSound has had ends.

I snapped up 4 albums this time, 3 of them Multi-Layer!

Even though they are single layer the Richard Band 1,2,3, and 6 are outstanding values at $24.95! (I already had 1,2, and 6 and paid a lot more than this price for them. Here is part of the email I got from them. Chris has a link in the post above.

========== From SmartSound ==================
We have OVER 30 Multi-Layer Albums on sale for just $39.95 each! That's the lowest I've ever seen them priced. ("Theatrical Impact" is a must-have at $39.95! So many great deals.)

Check them out:
SmartSound Specials

Marcus Martell March 29th, 2009 03:52 AM

I'd like to suggest you
jamendo.com

Chris Swanberg March 29th, 2009 01:59 PM

I would point out that while Free and legal music downloads - Jamendo is a neat place with lots of participating artists uploading their work, use of the music there is NOT royalty free for use in films or other audio visual works.

Matt Hiebert May 7th, 2009 10:29 AM

BackTraxx Broadcast License
 
I recently purchased BackTraxx 1 for a documentary film I'm producing only to find out they have an entirely different license for commercial use. They told me on the phone I could use it however I wanted as long as the music was embedded with other media and not available for download separately. However, after reading the EULA that doesn't seem to be the case. Does anyone know what Digital Juice charges for a song if I want to broadcast it as background music in a film?

Matt Hiebert May 7th, 2009 10:51 AM

Nevermind
 
Digital Juice just contacted me. I can use the music anyway I wish as long as it's synced with other media.

Marcus Martell May 9th, 2009 12:04 AM

@ Chris:What you mean?You have to pay for that kind of use?

Chris Swanberg May 9th, 2009 10:19 AM

Yes, synch rights are not free, and carry other conditions.

Chris Swanberg November 12th, 2009 09:49 PM

Been a while since this post was in active. Meanwhile, as I write this today, 6 months later....Cinescore has a GREAT sale going on, just FYI... SmartSound is changing their marketing and DJ is as well. It is all good for film makers.

Sony's Sale: http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/...?keycode=64147 Good thru 12/31/09

Marcus Martell November 14th, 2009 05:41 AM

Hey Chris, is it easy to use?A couple of dvinfousers were suggesting each other to pick this with other boxes.....I need this for historical docs and national geographic style docs(i wish), do u recomend it to buy?

thx

Brett Sherman November 14th, 2009 08:52 AM

There are two open submission libraries I use. There's a lot of crap on these, but you kind find good composers too. Of course music is one of those things where there are many opinions.

Royalty Free Music & Stock Audio - AudioJungle
Composers: sashqxxx, soundroll, mich1s

Here is a collection of good tracks I made: Good Music Tracks - brettsherman - AudioJungle

RevoStock: Affordable Stock Video Footage, After Effects Projects, Music and Sound Effects
Composers:DanPhillipson, Darko Saric, DropDrop

Here is a mediabox I made with what I think are good tracks. I even added a couple of pieces I made, though I wouldn't put myself in the same category as the other composers. One of these days I'll have time to do some composition.

RevoStock: Affordable Stock Video Footage, Music and Sound Effects


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