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Tyson Persall · April 21st, 2007, 02:55 PM

Does anyone do this?
Instead of having your boom strung to the camera via XLR cable have it on the boom pole with a wireless transceiver sending the signal to camera? I've never seen this done but I realized I could do it with the "Samson Micro 32" wireless lav mics' I already have and some radio shack adapters.

Just wondering about experience of people who have tried this. Its not practical to run and gun with an XLR cable attached to the camera during certain event videography -like say a reality show where you need a boom person to capture the vocals for people without lav mics' on. - or a wedding reception. You never can hear the conversation if you walk right up to a group of ppl talking in a loud reception hall. Im thinking a wireless boom person who could walk with me would really get the conversation. Thoughts?

Steve House · April 21st, 2007, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyson Persall

Does anyone do this?
Instead of having your boom strung to the camera via XLR cable have it on the boom pole with a wireless transceiver sending the signal to camera? I've never seen this done but I realized I could do it with the "Samson Micro 32" wireless lav mics' I already have and some radio shack adapters.

Just wondering about experience of people who have tried this. Its not practical to run and gun with an XLR cable attached to the camera during certain event videography -like say a reality show where you need a boom person to capture the vocals for people without lav mics' on. - or a wedding reception. You never can hear the conversation if you walk right up to a group of ppl talking in a loud reception hall. Im thinking a wireless boom person who could walk with me would really get the conversation. Thoughts?

Very practical and done all the time. You can use an appropriate plug-on transmitter directly on the mic at the end of the boom or on the opposite end (booms with internal wiring often have an XLR connector on the butt-end) or a short cable hop to a transmitter carried on the boom operator's belt or in his bag. Whether it would be a good technique for a wedding reception depends more on the logistics of two people maneuvering in a crowded party with a boom or pistol-grip mounted mic than on the technology of the wireless mic itself. For run-and-gun news coverage or reality TV it's commonplace.

Will Kinsinger · April 21st, 2007, 06:28 PM

As bombproof as you can get going wireless to camera: Boom mic cabled to mixer with wireless Lectro 400 to camera, Zaxcom better but more $$$; wireless IFB back to mixer for monitoring and wireless link on TC output of cam to SD 7xxt recorder to record sync TC audio for backup.

A single cheap transmitter with no backup and no wireless return is possible but risky. At the very least the cameraman would have to be monitoring the audio himself on camera.

Adam Letch · April 21st, 2007, 06:29 PM

kit includes a plug in adapter for shotguns and things like sm58's etc.

http://www.videoguys.com.au/scripts/...?idproduct=320

enjoy

Tyson Persall · April 21st, 2007, 07:23 PM

thanks. Very helpful.

Steve House · April 22nd, 2007, 05:54 AM

Note the Senn 100 plugon tranamitter does not provide phantom power for the mic while the 500 model does.

Mike Teutsch · April 22nd, 2007, 06:18 AM

I use the wireless booms all the time. Have the Sennheiser EW112PG2 Evolution G2 with the SKP 100 G2 Plug on transmitter. Works like a charm! I also have an Azden set too, it's VHF but it has always worked fine too.

http://dvcreators.net/sennheiser-mics

The Sennheizer set at dvcreators is a great buy at $599.

Oh, and don't just use them on a boom, they can be place on shelves, taped to a ceiling fan or whatever. Just don't turn on the fan! :)

Mike

Pietro Jona · April 22nd, 2007, 12:21 PM

i'm using a mkh 416 on a boom, linked to a sd mixpre. the line output goes through a -40 db pad to a sennheiser 100 transmitter. the receiver is connected to the mic input of a sony z1. i don't like the sennheiser 100 but i have to say that it never failed in 80+ hours shot till now for project i'm working on.

pietro

April 21st, 2007, 02:55 PM	#1
Tyson Persall Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North Hollywood, Atlanta Posts: 437	Wireless booming. Does anyone do this? Instead of having your boom strung to the camera via XLR cable have it on the boom pole with a wireless transceiver sending the signal to camera? I've never seen this done but I realized I could do it with the "Samson Micro 32" wireless lav mics' I already have and some radio shack adapters. Just wondering about experience of people who have tried this. Its not practical to run and gun with an XLR cable attached to the camera during certain event videography -like say a reality show where you need a boom person to capture the vocals for people without lav mics' on. - or a wedding reception. You never can hear the conversation if you walk right up to a group of ppl talking in a loud reception hall. Im thinking a wireless boom person who could walk with me would really get the conversation. Thoughts? __________________ Tyson X

April 21st, 2007, 06:29 PM	#4
Adam Letch Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 414	Sennheiser ew100-ENG G2 kit includes a plug in adapter for shotguns and things like sm58's etc. http://www.videoguys.com.au/scripts/...?idproduct=320 enjoy

April 21st, 2007, 07:23 PM	#5
Tyson Persall Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North Hollywood, Atlanta Posts: 437	thanks. Very helpful. __________________ Tyson X

April 22nd, 2007, 05:54 AM	#6
Steve House Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,742	Note the Senn 100 plugon tranamitter does not provide phantom power for the mic while the 500 model does. __________________ Good news, Cousins! This week's chocolate ration is 15 grams!

April 22nd, 2007, 06:18 AM	#7
Mike Teutsch Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Port St. Lucie, Florida Posts: 2,614	I use the wireless booms all the time. Have the Sennheiser EW112PG2 Evolution G2 with the SKP 100 G2 Plug on transmitter. Works like a charm! I also have an Azden set too, it's VHF but it has always worked fine too. http://dvcreators.net/sennheiser-mics The Sennheizer set at dvcreators is a great buy at $599. Oh, and don't just use them on a boom, they can be place on shelves, taped to a ceiling fan or whatever. Just don't turn on the fan! :) Mike __________________ Chapter one, line one. The BH.

April 21st, 2007, 06:28 PM	#3
Will Kinsinger New Boot Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5	As bombproof as you can get going wireless to camera: Boom mic cabled to mixer with wireless Lectro 400 to camera, Zaxcom better but more $$$; wireless IFB back to mixer for monitoring and wireless link on TC output of cam to SD 7xxt recorder to record sync TC audio for backup. A single cheap transmitter with no backup and no wireless return is possible but risky. At the very least the cameraman would have to be monitoring the audio himself on camera.

April 22nd, 2007, 12:21 PM	#8
Pietro Jona Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: italy Posts: 172	i'm using a mkh 416 on a boom, linked to a sd mixpre. the line output goes through a -40 db pad to a sennheiser 100 transmitter. the receiver is connected to the mic input of a sony z1. i don't like the sennheiser 100 but i have to say that it never failed in 80+ hours shot till now for project i'm working on. pietro