Lest we forget - SUPER 2/3-inch NTSC/PAL cameras at DVinfo.net

Anmol Mishra · March 1st, 2009, 09:54 AM

Just in case this is useful.
I am making a list of 2/3-inch super low light and shallow DOF SD cameras.
I know that its HD time - but such a large pixel size can "see in the dark"

1. Standard broadcast cameras.
Panasonic AJ-SDX900 NTSC AJ-SDX900E PAL - 25P and 30P options
Sony DXC-637 and DXC-637P only 60i 50i
JVC GY-DV700 and GY-DV700e only 60i 50i
Hitachi Z-2010A NTSC (Is PAL unavailable ??) only 60i (50i ??)

2. Surveillance and MVCs
JVC D29-W NTSC and D29-WE PAL 16:9 lists 26P ???
JVC D29 and D29E non-widescreen versions.
Panasonic AW-E860 NTSC and AW-E860e PAL 25P 30P available
Sony DXC-151A and DXC-151AP
Sony XC-711 and XC-711P
Hitachi HV-D5W and HV-D5WE 16:9 has faux-frame mode 25F and 30F

Sony DXC-H10 is some kind of proprietary HD camera.

Anyone has lists of other cameras ???

Ted Ramasola · March 1st, 2009, 10:03 AM

i think the JVC dv500 is 1/2 inch only. I could be wrong.

Anmol Mishra · March 1st, 2009, 10:11 AM

Hi Ted. Its been changed.

Xavian-Anderson Macpherson · February 7th, 2010, 11:27 PM

I just purchased a Sony DXC-151A from eBay. And I now have the task of finding information on the camera. I don't think I really need all that much beyond finding a power supply for it. And since I want to run it with a battery anyway, I may have more options available to me. But if anyone has already done this battery powered, please let me know.

I'm also thinking on installing a viewfinder plug in the camera to use the finder from a DXC-3000. If that's indeed possible, that would make matters a lot easier to work with this camera in the field.

Xavian-Anderson Macpherson
ShingoshiDao

Anmol Mishra · February 8th, 2010, 12:43 AM

I sold mine just before the crop of DSLRs came through.e complete The problem is that you need a tethered pc with a capture card to ingest video..
To get the best quality, you want to extract the vga signal - I dont think the 151a has it.
Alternatively look at the Miro DC30/DC30plus going for really cheap on ebay. It has an onboard mjpeg compressor.
You can record to 100% lossless jpeg..

Xavian-Anderson Macpherson · February 8th, 2010, 08:56 PM

I was looking at a pocket DVR as the means to do my recording with both of my cameras. So would that work better than the route you mentioned here?

What I really need help with is finding a power cable allowing me to run this camera on a battery. I'm guessing I may wind up having to modify a cable for this purpose. If anyone has specific knowledge of how to do this, please post the information you have. Again, this is for the Sony DXC-151A.

Xavian-Anderson Macpherson
ShingoshiDao

Anmol Mishra · February 9th, 2010, 01:55 AM

pocket dvr's have very high compression. Not bad for youtube or dvd but would suck for any other use..

Xavian-Anderson Macpherson · February 9th, 2010, 02:23 AM

1.) Is there no way to determine the amount of compression those devices use?
2.) What else will do the job?
3.) How many devices do you need to set the compression rate?
4.) What do you need in the way of a small computer to record the raw stream?
5.) Why can't you record the stream without compression?

Xavian-Anderson Macpherson
ShingoshiDao

March 1st, 2009, 09:54 AM	#1
Anmol Mishra Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 401	Lest we forget - SUPER 2/3-inch NTSC/PAL cameras Just in case this is useful. I am making a list of 2/3-inch super low light and shallow DOF SD cameras. I know that its HD time - but such a large pixel size can "see in the dark" 1. Standard broadcast cameras. Panasonic AJ-SDX900 NTSC AJ-SDX900E PAL - 25P and 30P options Sony DXC-637 and DXC-637P only 60i 50i JVC GY-DV700 and GY-DV700e only 60i 50i Hitachi Z-2010A NTSC (Is PAL unavailable ??) only 60i (50i ??) 2. Surveillance and MVCs JVC D29-W NTSC and D29-WE PAL 16:9 lists 26P ??? JVC D29 and D29E non-widescreen versions. Panasonic AW-E860 NTSC and AW-E860e PAL 25P 30P available Sony DXC-151A and DXC-151AP Sony XC-711 and XC-711P Hitachi HV-D5W and HV-D5WE 16:9 has faux-frame mode 25F and 30F Sony DXC-H10 is some kind of proprietary HD camera. Anyone has lists of other cameras ??? Last edited by Anmol Mishra; March 1st, 2009 at 10:08 AM. Reason: Removed JVC dv500

February 7th, 2010, 11:27 PM	#4
Xavian-Anderson Macpherson New Boot Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Salem, OR Posts: 6	I wonder how many of us are still buying these... I just purchased a Sony DXC-151A from eBay. And I now have the task of finding information on the camera. I don't think I really need all that much beyond finding a power supply for it. And since I want to run it with a battery anyway, I may have more options available to me. But if anyone has already done this battery powered, please let me know. I'm also thinking on installing a viewfinder plug in the camera to use the finder from a DXC-3000. If that's indeed possible, that would make matters a lot easier to work with this camera in the field. Xavian-Anderson Macpherson ShingoshiDao

February 8th, 2010, 12:43 AM	#5
Anmol Mishra Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 401	I sold mine just before the crop of DSLRs came through.e complete The problem is that you need a tethered pc with a capture card to ingest video.. To get the best quality, you want to extract the vga signal - I dont think the 151a has it. Alternatively look at the Miro DC30/DC30plus going for really cheap on ebay. It has an onboard mjpeg compressor. You can record to 100% lossless jpeg.. __________________ mishra.tv Productions A Sydney-based group for dance movement-based video and film productions.

February 8th, 2010, 08:56 PM	#6
Xavian-Anderson Macpherson New Boot Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Salem, OR Posts: 6	How about using a pocket DVR instead? I was looking at a pocket DVR as the means to do my recording with both of my cameras. So would that work better than the route you mentioned here? What I really need help with is finding a power cable allowing me to run this camera on a battery. I'm guessing I may wind up having to modify a cable for this purpose. If anyone has specific knowledge of how to do this, please post the information you have. Again, this is for the Sony DXC-151A. Xavian-Anderson Macpherson ShingoshiDao

February 9th, 2010, 01:55 AM	#7
Anmol Mishra Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 401	pocket dvr's have very high compression. Not bad for youtube or dvd but would suck for any other use.. __________________ mishra.tv Productions A Sydney-based group for dance movement-based video and film productions.

March 1st, 2009, 10:03 AM	#2
Ted Ramasola Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Allen, Texas U.S.A Posts: 1,117	i think the JVC dv500 is 1/2 inch only. I could be wrong.

March 1st, 2009, 10:11 AM	#3
Anmol Mishra Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 401	Hi Ted. Its been changed.

February 9th, 2010, 02:23 AM	#8
Xavian-Anderson Macpherson New Boot Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Salem, OR Posts: 6	Can the compression rate be altered?? 1.) Is there no way to determine the amount of compression those devices use? 2.) What else will do the job? 3.) How many devices do you need to set the compression rate? 4.) What do you need in the way of a small computer to record the raw stream? 5.) Why can't you record the stream without compression? Xavian-Anderson Macpherson ShingoshiDao