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David Kelvin May 22nd, 2004 02:42 PM

DVX Magnet Solution
 
Picked up about $12 worth of magnets today from the hobby shop, varying from small to relatively thick in size - perhaps 10 different magnets in all.

However, to my dissapointment, not a single one of them worked on the DVX - they had no effect at all. Maybe because they were 'craft' magnets and not powerful enough, or maybe I'm just not placing them correctly. I'm assuming on the inside of the lcd pivot (screen facing you). Whenever I get a chance next I plan to pick up the next line of magnets they sell, called "power magnets."

Meanwhile, has anyone had any luck finding a magnet that works reliably to flip the image on the DVX lcd screen, without damaging it?

James Webb May 22nd, 2004 06:08 PM

I've tried using the thin rubbery strip type magnets (the kind you can cut with scissors). It's strong enough to hold up papers. I pushed it in the pivot opening. All it did was turn the screen black.

Filip Kovcin May 23rd, 2004 02:44 AM

magnet magic
 
i saw the same effect with my magnet - the black screen. tryed diffrent places - nothing.

can someone who really did the trick, and who is kind enough - to send us jpg or whatever graphic file to show where EXACTLY magnet is placed on DVX camera.

thanks,

filip

Joel Corkin May 23rd, 2004 09:46 AM

I can take a photo of the magnet and e-mail it somewhere for someone to host. The DVX is the only camera I have so I have nothing with which to take a picture of the LCD pivot.

The magnet I use is actually a small disc about 1cm diameter and 2mm thick. It comes off the back of one of those LED earings with two diodes that blink on and off. You could probably find them in your local Chinatown, or off of a night-time street vendor who goes to restaurants and clubs trying to sell trinkets like these.

As for the positioning of the magnet that's simple enough to figure out. All you have to do is take a metal screw or nail and move it around the LCD pivot area until you find the spot that attracts the screw. That should also give you an idea about the strength of the magnet you'll need and where to place it once you see what position the LCD would have to be in to come in contact with that magnet and do the image flip.

Filip Kovcin May 23rd, 2004 11:37 AM

to Joel Corkin
 
feel free to download a picture from my site and use the one which fits best. just draw color circle around that area where the magnet should be placed. and re- send it to me. i can then publish just the proper image/s with better resolution and explanation - if needed.


go there:

http://www.astercity.net/~tarasuma/dvx_page.html


thank you,


filip

p.s.

you can send the corrected (with circle) picture to my mail address:

filip@acn.waw.pl

or

tri_color@poczta.onet.pl

Nicholi Brossia May 23rd, 2004 02:52 PM

Unless the DVX is very different than the GL2, you guys are making this a lot more complicated than it really is. The process is actually very easy. All you need is a piece of a thin magnet from either a magnetic business card or a sheet from a craft store.

Open the lcd screen all the way and rotate the lcd to a 45 degree angle.
Wedge the magnet between the lcd hinge and lcd body with the black surface facing the lcd screen. You may have to tilt/swing the lcd in order to get a better angle.
Rock the magnet back and forth and in and out until you notice the screen flip. Take note of this location and keep trying until you get the hang of it. On the GL2, the sweet spot is about half of the depth and closer to the front of the camcorder.

Once you've done it a few times and can consistantly find the sweet spot, cut the magnet down to smaller size that won't be as visible.

David Kelvin May 23rd, 2004 04:01 PM

Thanks, Nicholi
 
I managed to find the sweet spot on the DVX finally, using one of my little square magnets.

http://www.3dkevlar.com/sweet_spot.jpg

By turning the magnet on its side and pressing it up against the red colored section of the image, right up against the lcd screen with the white side facing the camera, I was able to get the image to flip very reliably, and without distortion. It only works when the lcd is pulled out all the way, and tilted up at a 45 degree angle.

The magnet is about the size of a dime, but is square, and about as thick as 4 or 5 dimes stacked together with a piece of white plastic on one side. Picked it up at Hobby Lobby in a bag of about 10 for $1.47. If anyone's interested, the brand name is simply called "Craft Magnets."

I can take a photo of it working with the magnet later on if needbe, just tied up at the moment.

Joel Corkin May 23rd, 2004 06:58 PM

I just sent some photos to Filip. It really should be easy to figure out where the magnet ought to be if you rub a piece of metal lightly around the DVX LCD pivot with the screen open. You could also look at the photos of the GL2 which works on the same principle.

Filip Kovcin May 23rd, 2004 07:24 PM

magnet secret resolved
 
use the following link to my site to resolve the secret position of magnet for your dvx camera. arrows courtesy of joel :)

http://www.astercity.net/~tarasuma/dvx_page.html

enjoy

filip

Filip Kovcin May 24th, 2004 06:56 AM

update
 
i just updated the above link - now you can CLEARLY see where the magnet is positioned, how it looks, and how it works with DVX.
it really WORKS!!!

dv info net rules!

filip

http://www.astercity.net/~tarasuma/dvx_page.html

Fred Finn October 11th, 2004 09:17 AM

GL-1 FLIP OF THE LCD
 
Ok I didn't find anything on this, I hope this isn't redundant, I found the switch in the lcd on the GL-1 to flip the image!

On the lcd take the plastic cover off, their are several small screws on the perimeter that will allow this. Then if you look on the inside of the back cover there are two black tabs each with a small aluminum cover. The smaller of the tabs is teh key for the lcd flip switch. On the circuit board of the corresponding point for the protruding tab is the switch to flip the image. It looks like a small rectangular aluminum box with a small black nubbin sticking out of it, yes nubbin. If you press the nubin the image flips.

Along the body of the camera where the lcd rotates is a small groove where the pin which activates the switch slides. The bottom of this groove is angled upward, thereby creating a surface which decreases in depth as you spin the lcd away from you thereby telling the screen to slip when it reaches a certain point.

THe switch can be tricked several ways, the ideal way we be to create a surface in that groove the exact opposite of the oem one. Allowing for the opposite behavior as the current mechanism. (lol i feel like this reads like a tech mannual sorry...)

Jim Lafferty October 11th, 2004 11:09 PM

Thanks for the info, Fred! Could you kindly post some pics?

Fred Finn October 12th, 2004 08:51 AM

Here are the images the first one is of the cover plate. The arrow is pointing to the mechanism that activates the switch on the circuit board of the lcd. http://www.hazardousproductions.com/...INFO/cover.jpg


The second image http://www.hazardousproductions.com/...dvINFO/pin.jpg shows the circuit board. The red circle is around the actuator that is triggered by the switch on the cover, the arrow is pointing to the pin, that the switch on the cover pushes in thereby flipping the image on the lcd.

I used a small piece of duct tape to hold the pin in.

*edit the links aren't working... but if you copy and paste it, it works.. weirdest thing i've ever seen.

Jim Lafferty October 13th, 2004 09:54 PM

Thanks for the info -- now if only I could get the image to flip left-right, I'd be all set!

Fred Finn October 13th, 2004 10:10 PM

Is that on the GL-1? I didn't run into any trouble with that. When I flipped it, it wasn't a mirror image. I would guess that if it was you could use the mirror option in the menu?


*edit 10/14
Excellent glad I could help!!

Jim Lafferty October 14th, 2004 09:55 AM

Huh, I hadn't thought of that -- I've got Mirror set to "On," should work perfectly with it off. Thanks again!

- jim

Ben Gurvich October 18th, 2004 07:37 AM

anyone know if the JVC would use a magnet.

Cant seem to flip it

Cheers

Brad Phillips March 3rd, 2005 12:00 AM

Does anyone know how to do this mod on an XL2? or can it be done?

Steev Dinkins March 3rd, 2005 02:13 AM

XL2
 
For the XL2, mount the viewer on the opposite side:

http://www.holyzoo.com/content/35mm/...Adapter_30.jpg

http://www.holyzoo.com/content/35mm/...Adapter_21.jpg

Jeff Phang October 14th, 2005 03:13 PM

i hate to bring back such an old thread, but i'm very interested on doing this on a gl1, and the pictures down. Can anyone help?

Jeff Phang October 20th, 2005 12:08 PM

Does anyone have any advice?


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