NEW Micro35 images and footage now available

Daves Spi · June 2nd, 2005, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Valente

Also a couple other high res stills for your consideration (from a different part of the shoot):

http://www.redrockmicro.com/footage/Z1U/bottles.tif
http://www.redrockmicro.com/footage/Z1U/flowers.tif

Brian

Are you sure about the "high res" ??? Roses are totaly unsharp, and the bottles are very soft. I resized your tif downto 50% and then enlarged it to 200%. Guess what happened ? ... nothing - looks same :(

Radek Svoboda · June 2nd, 2005, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Daves Spi

Are you sure about the "high res" ??? Roses are totaly unsharp, and the bottles are very soft. I resized your tif downto 50% and then enlarged it to 200%. Guess what happened ? ... nothing - looks same :(

It's either not focused or 35 mm adapter has another function, it ads HD to SD conversion, at no extra cost.

Could you guys shoot resolution chart with adapter to see if it do HD, SD, or some other resolution figures.

Radek

Michael Struthers · June 2nd, 2005, 06:46 PM

It does seem like it causes some resolution loss, but until someone runs a rez test it's hard to say for certain.

Brian Valente · June 2nd, 2005, 06:48 PM

I agree. Resolution chart is in the works.

Daves Spi · June 3rd, 2005, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Valente

I agree. Resolution chart is in the works.

Do it... Look here : http://test.datriware.com/test.jpg. I took your bottle scene, and changed resolution of left side downto 50% (512x384). Now you can compare left side to right side...

I think the difference should be more visible... like : http://test.datriware.com/test2.jpg.

Also the shots on your page (as someone said here before) looks cheap :(

More pixels doesn not mean more resolution... ;)

Kyle Edwards · June 3rd, 2005, 01:54 PM

Yes, the Micro35 images are much softer than straight from the camera. Also seeing things in motion is another thing.

Dan Diaconu · June 3rd, 2005, 02:12 PM

How about that anouncement at the top of the page?

Shawn Murphy · June 3rd, 2005, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Diaconu

How about that anouncement at the top of the page?

which announcement, on which page?

(sorry if I'm missing the obvious but I couldn't figure out what you're talking about). Thx.

Dan Diaconu · June 3rd, 2005, 05:34 PM

I do not feel confortable at all to point but... (unless I am missing something)
here it is:
>>>>>>>>>The Micro35 Project (CLOSED -- see anouncement)<<<<<<<<
.................................................................................................... ....
>>>Please direct all Micro35-related discussions to their official forum at this link:
http://www.redrockmicro.com/forum
Chris Hurd
San Marcos, TX<<<<<<<<<<<<

Brian Valente · June 3rd, 2005, 06:51 PM

Dan - I'm not sure what you feel uncomfortable about - that thread was the original DIY micro35 thread - Chris pointed out it is no longer active on DVInfo because it was moved to our redrockmicro.com site. The conversation didn't end, it simply moved :)

Kyle - I'm not sure to what you are referring re: seeing things in motion?

Also, I am back down to the DVX but I will shoot some resolution charts this weekend. Thanks again for all the feedback.

Cheers

Brian

Chris Hurd · June 3rd, 2005, 07:39 PM

Dan

As you may already know, DV Info Net was the first home for the Micro35. You might say it was born here, just like the ReelStream / Andromeda project. These guys have decided to run their own discussion forum on their own site, and they have every right to do so. I am not going to compete with them for message board traffic over their own product. The proper thing for me to do was to shut down our old Micro35 forum and refer everybody to their new home elsewhere on the web. I have done just that. Please don't try to read anything more into it than that. Hope this helps,

Dan Diaconu · June 3rd, 2005, 08:58 PM

OK, guys, sorry, my fault.
Is not hard to tell (by some of the pics on my site) that I am up-side-down (;-)<

Leo Mandy · June 4th, 2005, 11:37 AM

Not a criticism so much as a heads-up, Brian. At the end of the garden footage, you can still see some vignetting in the bottom left hand corner - it could be a shadow, but it looks suspicious.

Kyle Edwards · June 4th, 2005, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Valente

Kyle - I'm not sure to what you are referring re: seeing things in motion?

Seeing the sample footage where the still came from is a much better example of the quality. Judging from that still frame doesn't compliment the actual footage. That bes what I meants.

John Jay · June 5th, 2005, 11:22 AM

hmmm, have to agree those stills look very soft, maybe you've got some axial vibration in there?

in fact I've yet to see HD grabs which approach the sharpness of the crude tests I did months ago - have a look at the little white flowerheads in this tiff

http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...E26EALWWRXB9CS

June 2nd, 2005, 06:46 PM	#18
Michael Struthers Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SF, Ca Posts: 421	It does seem like it causes some resolution loss, but until someone runs a rez test it's hard to say for certain. __________________ Michael Struthers www.buzzdigital.com

June 2nd, 2005, 06:48 PM	#19
Brian Valente Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 293	I agree. Resolution chart is in the works. __________________ ========================== Brian Valente Redrock Microsystems

June 3rd, 2005, 06:51 PM	#25
Brian Valente Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 293	Dan - I'm not sure what you feel uncomfortable about - that thread was the original DIY micro35 thread - Chris pointed out it is no longer active on DVInfo because it was moved to our redrockmicro.com site. The conversation didn't end, it simply moved :) Kyle - I'm not sure to what you are referring re: seeing things in motion? Also, I am back down to the DVX but I will shoot some resolution charts this weekend. Thanks again for all the feedback. Cheers Brian __________________ ========================== Brian Valente Redrock Microsystems

June 3rd, 2005, 07:39 PM	#26
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Dan As you may already know, DV Info Net was the first home for the Micro35. You might say it was born here, just like the ReelStream / Andromeda project. These guys have decided to run their own discussion forum on their own site, and they have every right to do so. I am not going to compete with them for message board traffic over their own product. The proper thing for me to do was to shut down our old Micro35 forum and refer everybody to their new home elsewhere on the web. I have done just that. Please don't try to read anything more into it than that. Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

June 5th, 2005, 11:22 AM	#30
John Jay Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: US & THEM Posts: 827	hmmm, have to agree those stills look very soft, maybe you've got some axial vibration in there? in fact I've yet to see HD grabs which approach the sharpness of the crude tests I did months ago - have a look at the little white flowerheads in this tiff http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...E26EALWWRXB9CS __________________ John Jay Beware *PLUGGER-BYTES*

June 3rd, 2005, 01:54 PM	#21
Kyle Edwards Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: LI, NY Posts: 274	Yes, the Micro35 images are much softer than straight from the camera. Also seeing things in motion is another thing.

June 3rd, 2005, 02:12 PM	#22
Dan Diaconu Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 804	How about that anouncement at the top of the page?

June 3rd, 2005, 05:34 PM	#24
Dan Diaconu Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 804	I do not feel confortable at all to point but... (unless I am missing something) here it is: >>>>>>>>>The Micro35 Project (CLOSED -- see anouncement)<<<<<<<< .................................................................................................... .... >>>Please direct all Micro35-related discussions to their official forum at this link: http://www.redrockmicro.com/forum Chris Hurd San Marcos, TX<<<<<<<<<<<<

June 3rd, 2005, 08:58 PM	#27
Dan Diaconu Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 804	OK, guys, sorry, my fault. Is not hard to tell (by some of the pics on my site) that I am up-side-down (;-)<

June 4th, 2005, 11:37 AM	#28
Leo Mandy Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 749	Not a criticism so much as a heads-up, Brian. At the end of the garden footage, you can still see some vignetting in the bottom left hand corner - it could be a shadow, but it looks suspicious.