A slightly different 35mm adapter concept

Wayne Kinney · January 14th, 2006, 05:43 PM

Looking good, Alain.

Rene Hinojosa · January 14th, 2006, 06:55 PM

What about acrylic for a gg? Not sure if it is diffusable or how thick it would have to be.

Dennis Wood · January 14th, 2006, 07:11 PM

A surface mount pager motor on your screen frame mounted in rubber bushings...and you're set.

Carl Jakobsson · January 15th, 2006, 06:30 AM

I think that the paper bags i use to buy with ham at the local grocery store has this typ of plastic at the front, so you could see the ham. I'll check that out later today. Getting a $2 very good ground glass sounds too good to be true. Actually it's free if you eat the ham...

In theory, few things could be better than a Beattie, in reality a Beattie gives very grainy images in som light conditions. Scratching a beattie isn't fun either, I've tried... :)

As stated, I'll try to get some time to check that out later today.

Ben Winter · January 15th, 2006, 10:29 AM

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in reality a Beattie gives very grainy images in som light conditions.

not if it's moving :) Actually now that you've shown us this I really want to try out this material. In terms of the Letus, this material would be lighter than glass and therefore would let the GG plate vibrate more. I'm itching to try this out--are these like the plastic bags that you put fruit or veggies in at the grocery store? In which case I know what material you're referring to...goodness I hope I don't have to ask one of you to mail me a sample of a plastic bag or something pathetic like that...:)

Bryan Ramirez · January 15th, 2006, 05:21 PM

Can you post a pic of this bag your talking about. Oh and I found that Folgers Coffee Can Tops work pretty good aswell.

Marco Polimeni · January 15th, 2006, 06:45 PM

I think that covering all the surface of a fake CD with some streeps of 3M Magic Tape should be a very good and easy solution for a rotating GG. Same thing for a vibrating one.

Leo Mandy · January 15th, 2006, 07:02 PM

3M tape? It would have to be a wider thickness I am thinking. Sandwich bags? I have tried the PressNSeal and it works great, but I think you are working with something else, right?

Marco Polimeni · January 15th, 2006, 07:47 PM

Yes, Alain is working on a static adapter, and me too, for the moment.

The idea of the 3M Magic Tape on a CD comes to me yesterday when I try to put some of this tape on an UV filter to replace the GG and test trasparency and grain. If you dont consider the dust and the size of the tape, that dosnt cover the 24x36mm area, the results was pretty good.
If you do the same on a moving GG the junctions of the various streeps should be invisible and the grain too. This is just a theory, of course, I've not yet an experience on moving GG.
Is there anybody that can try it ?

Alain, please can you say how are you going to fix the adapter to the camcorder ?

Bryan Ramirez · January 15th, 2006, 07:57 PM

Hey Leo can you post some footage or pics with press n seal. I am currently rendering some footage with a Folgers Coffee can top and another sample with a regular white plastic grocery bag. Yes the bags they give you your groceries in. I Think if you get a bag that has no wrinkles it might work very well.

Leo Mandy · January 15th, 2006, 07:59 PM

Will do. I haven't touched it in months since I got the Letus35. I will break it out and shoot some stuf with it to show tomorrow when it is light outside.
Alain, what is the widest you can get the 3M tape? I am going to try it in the Letus35 and see what happens!

Marco Polimeni · January 15th, 2006, 08:02 PM

Leo, I've just cheked, it seems 1".

http://www.3m.com/us/mfg_industrial/...magic811.jhtml

Rene Hinojosa · January 15th, 2006, 08:04 PM

Do you remove the glue off the tape to be able to use it without attracting dirt.

Also, I was looking around for material to rry out and noticed some plastic that was used to protect negative picture film. The only problem is that it isn't wide enough to be able to use it effectively. It almost looks like the frosty side of a grounded uv glass, except that I don't see any grain only the scratches that were on it. Amazing!

Bryan Ramirez · January 15th, 2006, 08:37 PM

the footage I was talking about is at:

http://irezfilms.8m.com/1%20Mbps%20CableLg_Prog001.mov

the plastic bag was used inside, and the coffe can lid was used outside.

Carl Jakobsson · January 15th, 2006, 09:00 PM

Link doesn't work! I tried using spaces instead %20 but without success.

January 14th, 2006, 05:43 PM	#16
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Looking good, Alain. __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

January 15th, 2006, 05:21 PM	#21
Bryan Ramirez Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 38	I will Can you post a pic of this bag your talking about. Oh and I found that Folgers Coffee Can Tops work pretty good aswell.

January 14th, 2006, 06:55 PM	#17
Rene Hinojosa Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 37	What about acrylic for a gg? Not sure if it is diffusable or how thick it would have to be.

January 14th, 2006, 07:11 PM	#18
Dennis Wood Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 916	A surface mount pager motor on your screen frame mounted in rubber bushings...and you're set.

January 15th, 2006, 06:30 AM	#19
Carl Jakobsson Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lund, Sweden Posts: 122	I think that the paper bags i use to buy with ham at the local grocery store has this typ of plastic at the front, so you could see the ham. I'll check that out later today. Getting a $2 very good ground glass sounds too good to be true. Actually it's free if you eat the ham... In theory, few things could be better than a Beattie, in reality a Beattie gives very grainy images in som light conditions. Scratching a beattie isn't fun either, I've tried... :) As stated, I'll try to get some time to check that out later today.

January 15th, 2006, 06:45 PM	#22
Marco Polimeni New Boot Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 21	I think that covering all the surface of a fake CD with some streeps of 3M Magic Tape should be a very good and easy solution for a rotating GG. Same thing for a vibrating one.

January 15th, 2006, 07:02 PM	#23
Leo Mandy Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 749	3M tape? It would have to be a wider thickness I am thinking. Sandwich bags? I have tried the PressNSeal and it works great, but I think you are working with something else, right?

January 15th, 2006, 07:47 PM	#24
Marco Polimeni New Boot Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 21	Yes, Alain is working on a static adapter, and me too, for the moment. The idea of the 3M Magic Tape on a CD comes to me yesterday when I try to put some of this tape on an UV filter to replace the GG and test trasparency and grain. If you dont consider the dust and the size of the tape, that dosnt cover the 24x36mm area, the results was pretty good. If you do the same on a moving GG the junctions of the various streeps should be invisible and the grain too. This is just a theory, of course, I've not yet an experience on moving GG. Is there anybody that can try it ? Alain, please can you say how are you going to fix the adapter to the camcorder ?

January 15th, 2006, 07:57 PM	#25
Bryan Ramirez Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 38	Hey Leo can you post some footage or pics with press n seal. I am currently rendering some footage with a Folgers Coffee can top and another sample with a regular white plastic grocery bag. Yes the bags they give you your groceries in. I Think if you get a bag that has no wrinkles it might work very well.

January 15th, 2006, 07:59 PM	#26
Leo Mandy Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 749	Will do. I haven't touched it in months since I got the Letus35. I will break it out and shoot some stuf with it to show tomorrow when it is light outside. Alain, what is the widest you can get the 3M tape? I am going to try it in the Letus35 and see what happens!

January 15th, 2006, 08:02 PM	#27
Marco Polimeni New Boot Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 21	Leo, I've just cheked, it seems 1". http://www.3m.com/us/mfg_industrial/...magic811.jhtml

January 15th, 2006, 08:04 PM	#28
Rene Hinojosa Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 37	Do you remove the glue off the tape to be able to use it without attracting dirt. Also, I was looking around for material to rry out and noticed some plastic that was used to protect negative picture film. The only problem is that it isn't wide enough to be able to use it effectively. It almost looks like the frosty side of a grounded uv glass, except that I don't see any grain only the scratches that were on it. Amazing!

January 15th, 2006, 08:37 PM	#29
Bryan Ramirez Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 38	the footage I was talking about is at: http://irezfilms.8m.com/1%20Mbps%20CableLg_Prog001.mov the plastic bag was used inside, and the coffe can lid was used outside.

January 15th, 2006, 09:00 PM	#30
Carl Jakobsson Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lund, Sweden Posts: 122	Link doesn't work! I tried using spaces instead %20 but without success.