Is it just me or is all M2, Brevis, Letus, SgPro, etc., footage of plants and chairs? at DVinfo.net

Anthony Vincent · April 20th, 2007, 10:03 PM

I love the footage but I just find it funny. It's like everyone gets them in the mail and the protocol is to shoot some plants and maybe something in the house like a chair.

It's like people are saying, NOW I can finally get that well deserved chair shot I've been wanting. NOW I can get that plant in a oscar winning frame before it dies.

It's just funny to me. Spend all that money on the setup and you aim it at the chair! HA

Santos Ramos · April 20th, 2007, 10:26 PM

This is funny but I think you may be right!

Chris Barcellos · April 20th, 2007, 10:27 PM

Man, you have been here all of 13 you seem to have nothing decent to say. Attitude won't go far in this forum...

Look for Steven Dempsey's stuff:

There is one in post one of this thread:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=91799

Bob Hart · April 20th, 2007, 11:17 PM

Yes I know - I know.

All of my quick test footage is the backyard, thorny rose bushes or cats. However, I'm too mean and broke to spend good petrol money to go and gather bad footage in a simple test.

Once I have something worth looking at you'll see it first here. Oh, I forgot. There's my music clips on Youtube and shadow footage on Brightcove but I posted the links a good while back.

Charles Hurley · April 20th, 2007, 11:42 PM

To answer your question, yes, it's just you.

Ben Winter · April 22nd, 2007, 08:56 AM

I shoot chairs and plants all the time. This is because household items are the most convenient and simple ways to test aspects of an adapter, and right out of the box my first instinct is to choose simply framed items to showcase grain, vignetting, bokeh, etc. things that wouldn't be readily available on-location on shoots I do with my Brevis. People want tests (for instance my test of a Brevis + 5 power low contrast filter and ND) and it would be ridiculous for me to wait until I was actually making something with it to test that out. So I go outside and shoot a tree.

The reason you only see tests of chairs and not real footage is that this forum is dedicated to building these adapters, not showcasing the work done with them. That's the other forum "Show Your Work" where you can find a lot of footage shot with adapters, unless not explicitly stated so.

Here is an unfinished rough cut of a music video I shot with the Brevis a while ago:

http://www.frozenphoenixproductions.com/mftm.htm

Also, there are some who combine test shots with meaningful filmmaking, I seem to recall a Brevis test a while ago that captured the faces of the homeless that are so often ignored. Very touching.

Dennis Wood · April 23rd, 2007, 02:41 PM

Yep, Phil Bloom's Homeless Portraits.

This one's (with people) in 24p from the HV20.

Bob Hart · April 23rd, 2007, 08:45 PM

Here's a clip I did with Agus35, Letus35 and direct-to-camera with two different camera types and mix of HDV and MiniDV.

Its not the sharpest imaging on the block. It is the b-movie heroes studio session so ayone who previously visited the clip may not want to go there again.

http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=570589631

Glenn Thomas · April 25th, 2007, 06:59 PM

I guess it depends on the type of chair or the plant, right? It can be interesting seeing peoples furniture or what their garden looks like.

What amuses me is when there are close up shots of plants that you could just as easily shoot without a 35mm and still get that shallow dof by zooming in on the subject from a distance.

Ben Winter · April 25th, 2007, 07:01 PM

That flattens the image. One of the reasons for using an adapter is to avoid that.

Glenn Thomas · April 25th, 2007, 07:04 PM

Yes, but can still look nice.

Ian G. Thompson · April 26th, 2007, 08:53 AM

Glenn your right it can still look nice. But I think you run into more of a problem with the shakes when you do this. I have not used a DOF adapter before but I assume you would have more control over the picture (in regards to shakes..with or without a tripod) with one than without one. The farther out you zoom the more visible your shakes. IMO.

Liam Hall · April 28th, 2007, 06:09 AM

Anyone got any more plant shots? I think they're really cool.

Kurt August · April 28th, 2007, 07:31 AM

"Are there any more plants?"

There shure are:
http://www.kurtaugustyns.com/wordpre...15/aberration/

And it's been mentioned before: there is being filmed a lot with these. It's not all shown here.

Bob Hart · April 28th, 2007, 07:49 AM

Rose bushes - vicious thorny things second only to cats in their injurious potential. These ones were planted by my father over 30 years ago and budded onto already old transplanted trifoliata stock.

He had a little mishap about ten years ago with a sprayer and a partially used tank of roundup when spraying for aphids so the bushes are not what they once were.

Be moved into great transports of joy by this vegetative visage.

http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?...8206&lineup=-1

April 20th, 2007, 10:03 PM	#1
Anthony Vincent Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 47	Is it just me or is all M2, Brevis, Letus, SgPro, etc., footage of plants and chairs? I love the footage but I just find it funny. It's like everyone gets them in the mail and the protocol is to shoot some plants and maybe something in the house like a chair. It's like people are saying, NOW I can finally get that well deserved chair shot I've been wanting. NOW I can get that plant in a oscar winning frame before it dies. It's just funny to me. Spend all that money on the setup and you aim it at the chair! HA

April 20th, 2007, 10:26 PM	#2
Santos Ramos Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 54	This is funny. This is funny but I think you may be right!

April 20th, 2007, 10:27 PM	#3
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Man, you have been here all of 13 you seem to have nothing decent to say. Attitude won't go far in this forum... Look for Steven Dempsey's stuff: There is one in post one of this thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=91799 __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

April 20th, 2007, 11:17 PM	#4
Bob Hart Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PERTH. W.A. AUSTRALIA. Posts: 4,476	Yes I know - I know. All of my quick test footage is the backyard, thorny rose bushes or cats. However, I'm too mean and broke to spend good petrol money to go and gather bad footage in a simple test. Once I have something worth looking at you'll see it first here. Oh, I forgot. There's my music clips on Youtube and shadow footage on Brightcove but I posted the links a good while back. Last edited by Bob Hart; April 20th, 2007 at 11:17 PM. Reason: can't spell

April 22nd, 2007, 08:56 AM	#6
Ben Winter Trustee Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 1,675 Images: 1	I shoot chairs and plants all the time. This is because household items are the most convenient and simple ways to test aspects of an adapter, and right out of the box my first instinct is to choose simply framed items to showcase grain, vignetting, bokeh, etc. things that wouldn't be readily available on-location on shoots I do with my Brevis. People want tests (for instance my test of a Brevis + 5 power low contrast filter and ND) and it would be ridiculous for me to wait until I was actually making something with it to test that out. So I go outside and shoot a tree. The reason you only see tests of chairs and not real footage is that this forum is dedicated to building these adapters, not showcasing the work done with them. That's the other forum "Show Your Work" where you can find a lot of footage shot with adapters, unless not explicitly stated so. Here is an unfinished rough cut of a music video I shot with the Brevis a while ago: http://www.frozenphoenixproductions.com/mftm.htm Also, there are some who combine test shots with meaningful filmmaking, I seem to recall a Brevis test a while ago that captured the faces of the homeless that are so often ignored. Very touching. __________________ BenWinter.com

April 20th, 2007, 11:42 PM	#5
Charles Hurley Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 128	To answer your question, yes, it's just you.

April 23rd, 2007, 02:41 PM	#7
Dennis Wood Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 916	Yep, Phil Bloom's Homeless Portraits. This one's (with people) in 24p from the HV20.

April 23rd, 2007, 08:45 PM	#8
Bob Hart Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PERTH. W.A. AUSTRALIA. Posts: 4,476	Here's a clip I did with Agus35, Letus35 and direct-to-camera with two different camera types and mix of HDV and MiniDV. Its not the sharpest imaging on the block. It is the b-movie heroes studio session so ayone who previously visited the clip may not want to go there again. http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?title=570589631

April 25th, 2007, 06:59 PM	#9
Glenn Thomas Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 320	I guess it depends on the type of chair or the plant, right? It can be interesting seeing peoples furniture or what their garden looks like. What amuses me is when there are close up shots of plants that you could just as easily shoot without a 35mm and still get that shallow dof by zooming in on the subject from a distance.

April 25th, 2007, 07:01 PM	#10
Ben Winter Trustee Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 1,675 Images: 1	That flattens the image. One of the reasons for using an adapter is to avoid that. __________________ BenWinter.com

April 25th, 2007, 07:04 PM	#11
Glenn Thomas Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 320	Yes, but can still look nice.

April 26th, 2007, 08:53 AM	#12
Ian G. Thompson Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rockledge, Florida Posts: 351	Glenn your right it can still look nice. But I think you run into more of a problem with the shakes when you do this. I have not used a DOF adapter before but I assume you would have more control over the picture (in regards to shakes..with or without a tripod) with one than without one. The farther out you zoom the more visible your shakes. IMO.

April 28th, 2007, 06:09 AM	#13
Liam Hall Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London, England Posts: 969	Anyone got any more plant shots? I think they're really cool. __________________ Writer-Director-DOP www.liamhall.net

April 28th, 2007, 07:31 AM	#14
Kurt August Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 94	"Are there any more plants?" There shure are: http://www.kurtaugustyns.com/wordpre...15/aberration/ And it's been mentioned before: there is being filmed a lot with these. It's not all shown here.

April 28th, 2007, 07:49 AM	#15
Bob Hart Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PERTH. W.A. AUSTRALIA. Posts: 4,476	Rose bushes - vicious thorny things second only to cats in their injurious potential. These ones were planted by my father over 30 years ago and budded onto already old transplanted trifoliata stock. He had a little mishap about ten years ago with a sprayer and a partially used tank of roundup when spraying for aphids so the bushes are not what they once were. Be moved into great transports of joy by this vegetative visage. http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?...8206&lineup=-1 Last edited by Bob Hart; April 28th, 2007 at 07:51 AM. Reason: original link copied was a dud