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Hurcan Emre February 13th, 2007 02:52 AM

im in the university for 3 days. And only able to look for it in the universitie's chemical labaratuary. i found parafain wax here but no microwax. i will go to the city today and look for microwax in hobbyshops. there is a very little chance but i will give it a shot :)

or there is a posibbelety that if i can find the formula for the micro wax, i can produce it in the universtylab with the help of product engineers here. however i don't want to wait that long.

Hurcan Emre February 14th, 2007 03:43 PM

i searched everywhere but couln't find macrowax. I only found parafin. maybe i should melt parafin between two transparant cds and use it as a turning ground glass.

what do you think? would it be much metter than the one that is done with the sand paper?


ps: should i open a new thread or continue this one? (probably this should be the last post from me that is not about Elphel 333 :) )

Oscar Spierenburg February 14th, 2007 05:28 PM

Here is the old microwax thread http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...light=microwax
Maybe we'd better post everything about wax over there.
The Elphel has given it a new dimension though, because it turns out to be the best static 35mm solution for HD footage.

Matteo Pozzi February 16th, 2007 07:30 AM

Hi oscar I've to ask you only one thing about the microwax gg ....I haven't understand if, at the end, I'll have to remove the small glass with the aluminum foil and looking at microwax on the net I've found this http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/i...OD&ProdID=1304
have you tried it ...di you think is a good choice!?

Oscar Spierenburg February 16th, 2007 11:52 AM

Matteo,

Don't remove the small glass, and don't remove the foil. You just have to clean both sides of the pieces of glass.
I never used the microwax-polish. Maybe it works, but I think it will be too fluid, which makes it too transparent (I tested beeswax-polish).
You need something like this: http://www.genwax.com/do_not_index/Z40M75W.htm (I still had that in my bookmarks)

Oscar Spierenburg February 28th, 2007 12:18 PM

How would a lens like this do on an Elphel 333 camera.
I guess it's from an old professional video camera like this one, and the lens should be adapted to c-mount somehow.
The elphel sensor size is "slightly bigger than 1/2" format (nominal 6.4mm x4.8mm)" , but for the 16:9 at 24fps we don't use the whole sensor. What's the chip size of such a panasonic? I'm asking because I'd like to have a good lens on the Elphel when it's not on the 35mm adapter. Also a bit wide angle, because the 35mm DOF effect is almost lost on wide angle lenses, so I wouldn't use the adapter in those cases anyway.

Matteo Pozzi March 1st, 2007 10:44 AM

Oscar pay attention to the fact that what was "broadcast" quality
was with a resolution of 640 x 480 (more or less for pal) so I think that you have to invest in some "megapixel" c mount lens to achieve the result of the image of Phil

Oscar Spierenburg March 1st, 2007 02:17 PM

Yes, but I guess a professional camera comes with a very sharp lens, and because resolution is something very subjective when it comes to optics (like.. what's the resolution of a real 35mm picture)

Matteo Pozzi March 2nd, 2007 09:04 AM

maybe you can give it a try it is not so expansive :-) I was thinking for a megapixel lens... if we can adapt a 5 mp camera lens ...you can take an old
broken digital camera for cheap and dismouting it mabe can be usefull

Oscar Spierenburg April 6th, 2007 09:59 AM

I have now bought a big lens (bigger than the Elphel itself! - didn't know until I got it) originally for a professional Panasonic video camera. I made a mount for the tripod and the elphel so it's in balance (see the images)
I have to fine adjust the focal point, but I got some very sharp images already. And very good at low light.

Another very practical thing I made is a separate optical viewfinder next to the camera. I striped a SLR camera to a small directors-finder. I can also use it with the 35mm adapter. Whatever lens I put in front of the Elphel, I just zoom in with the viewfinder to match the field of view.
Of course I can't pull focus this way, but that's the next problem to solve. (synched follow focus?)


Here are some pictures:

http://s10.picshome.com/351/elphelviewfinder.jpg

Oscar Spierenburg April 12th, 2007 06:19 AM

I guess the image is deleted from the server. Here it is again:

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6...wfinderhj4.jpg

Daniel Lipats April 12th, 2007 08:07 PM

Hey Oscar,

Please upload some more pictures, I would really like to see how sharp the lens is. Can you provide any details on it?

This is what im working on right now:
http://www.buysmartpc.com/333/333design.jpg

I have most of it built.. and when complete i don't think it will weigh much more then a steadycam with a monitor, battery pack and counter weights. I can also balance everything to behave as a stabilizer


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