hi,

today I uploaded my 30 min wildlife documentary film to vimeo. you can watch and your comments are welcome;

http://www.vimeo.com/1294610

thanks,

alkim.

i'm watching it. my compliments, the footage is really impressive. the slomo of the fox digging the nose in the snow is beautiful.
where exactly is the province? wich camera did you use?

pietro

ok i know where it is. i've been in erzurum on my way to iran a few years ago. might get there again soon.

Hi Alkim
Not often a film is so catching that I forget to look for errors. And I don't want to look it over again to try to find some. That would not be fair. Very good footage, story and a good voice. If I had to put my finger on something, I would like some more comments in the beginning of the film. I thought I was a little "one sentence at a time". But it picked up very well. And a little more of the natural sound. But that is just me.
Be proud of this.
Great video, thanks for shearing.
Arnt

Thank you Alkim for showing your documentary on the wildlife, and environment of the Ardahan Province in Turkey the film was captivating, lovely scenes within the landscape through winter and spring, a well written and laid out message of conservation within the narrative, very professional made film.

pietro,

the region is north east of turkey. Kars and Ardahan is north of erzurum. if you ll go there, prefere the winter times. landscape is absolutely amazing...

I used canon xl2. 20x, 3x and ef 100-400 L. for sound, I use audıo technıca at 890 shutgun and sony hı md recorder mzrh 910. tripod is manfrotto 190 nat, and 501 head.

and as a technıcal knowledge, dv info is my primary source :)

thanks

alkim.

Hi Alkim
Not often a film is so catching that I forget to look for errors. And I don't want to look it over again to try to find some. That would not be fair. Very good footage, story and a good voice. If I had to put my finger on something, I would like some more comments in the beginning of the film. I thought I was a little "one sentence at a time". But it picked up very well. And a little more of the natural sound. But that is just me.
Be proud of this.
Great video, thanks for shearing.
Arnt

hı arnt,

thanks a lot for your positive comments. you are right about commenting. the main logic for acquiring comments- negatıves and positives - is sharing our knowledge and experiences here.

during the script writing stage, I have a very limited time, as you stated, I also want to add or change some text but this is my first 30 min doc, and this is a long journey, a alot of things to learn, and I like this journey itself, not the results I get...

thanks again,
alkim.

Thank you Alkim for showing your documentary on the wildlife, and environment of the Ardahan Province in Turkey the film was captivating, lovely scenes within the landscape through winter and spring, a well written and laid out message of conservation within the narrative, very professional made film.

hi ron,

thank you for your positive words.

alkim.

Hi Alkim
Not often a film is so catching that I forget to look for errors. And I don't want to look it over again to try to find some. That would not be fair. Very good footage, story and a good voice. If I had to put my finger on something, I would like some more comments in the beginning of the film. I thought I was a little "one sentence at a time". But it picked up very well. And a little more of the natural sound. But that is just me.
Be proud of this.
Great video, thanks for shearing.
Arnt

arnt,

unhortunately, during the shot on location, I m usually alone, so ı couldn't record too much sound. I know this film needs much more sound :(

thanks,
alkim.

Alkim,

Having read several of your previous posts on this project, your hard work has certainly paid off. One of the most enjoyable half hours I had for sometime. I have no wish to comment on small aspects of the film as overall this is a brilliant piece of work and should be view as a whole, I think,like me, most viewers will be captivated. I certainly now know about a part of the world that I did not know existed.

I wish you all the success you deserve, you must enter it in one of the many wildlife film festivals that are held around the world.

Regard

Mick

www.mppvideos.co.uk

Hi Alkim,

Lovely film, I really enjoyed watching it - thanks for posting the link. It probably could do with a little more sound but I wouldn't over do it. The music works really well with the beautiful imagery and it gave the whole thing a sense of atmosphere. It was also nice to see the local people and their cultural ways.

Congratulations and well done.

All the best
Pete

Alkim,

Having read several of your previous posts on this project, your hard work has certainly paid off. One of the most enjoyable half hours I had for sometime. I have no wish to comment on small aspects of the film as overall this is a brilliant piece of work and should be view as a whole, I think,like me, most viewers will be captivated. I certainly now know about a part of the world that I did not know existed.

I wish you all the success you deserve, you must enter it in one of the many wildlife film festivals that are held around the world.

Regard

Mick

www.mppvideos.co.uk


Mick,

thanks a lot. yes it was a long and tiring project and now I have something. I started to send it to the festivals as well.

alkim.

Hi Alkim,

Lovely film, I really enjoyed watching it - thanks for posting the link. It probably could do with a little more sound but I wouldn't over do it. The music works really well with the beautiful imagery and it gave the whole thing a sense of atmosphere. It was also nice to see the local people and their cultural ways.

Congratulations and well done.

All the best
Pete

hi Pete,

thanks for your positive comments, sound is my weak side, and I need a good sound man in the field next time,

alkim.

Hi Alkim,
I have some friends who are leaving for Turkey next week. They told me how beautiful the country is, and I see that they are right. Gorgeous scenery captured to perfection. I especially like the way you take a very small moving subject and use it to animate the whole landscape. This was especially evident with the train. My favorite shot, although not nature was the woman in the window down in the corner with the rest black. Classic and superb.
One small comment. A couple of scenes were stills and just a bit jarring in their lack of movement (like the eagle with the fox). Panning across them would have been nice. Also the men with the scythes was a little too long. I kept saying "When are they going to get those flowers". The could have done it sooner for greater effect.
Thank you for this wonderful film. There is a lot to learn from it.

Thank you Alkim.
A journey discovering life under and over snow and ice linked by snowmelt to spring and summer of waterfowl, harriers, black kites, cranes, a frenzied phalarope (I think), a magnificent black stork and 4-footed life in a wild setting of seasonal waterfalls and grasslands.

A welcome insight for me. 2 superb shrubs, daphne glomerata and azalea luteum grow together near this area which I'd love to visit. The winter/spring weather charts show it as permanently below freezing but your film shows that sunshine at that latitude is quite hot in springtime forcing rapid change of seasons. Very interesting.

Hi Alkim,
I have some friends who are leaving for Turkey next week. They told me how beautiful the country is, and I see that they are right. Gorgeous scenery captured to perfection. I especially like the way you take a very small moving subject and use it to animate the whole landscape. This was especially evident with the train. My favorite shot, although not nature was the woman in the window down in the corner with the rest black. Classic and superb.
One small comment. A couple of scenes were stills and just a bit jarring in their lack of movement (like the eagle with the fox). Panning across them would have been nice. Also the men with the scythes was a little too long. I kept saying "When are they going to get those flowers". The could have done it sooner for greater effect.
Thank you for this wonderful film. There is a lot to learn from it.

hi steve,

our country is beatiful, and if you have enough patience and knowledge, such secenes are inevitable.

during editing, I have some limitations and obligations. in order to fulfill the script, I intentionally lenghten the scenes. One of the supporters "CNNTürk" tv advise me to make film 30 min, in order to be broadcasted in 1 hour interval. My first plan, after the rough cut, was make this film about 25 min. stills like eagle on the fox have a little bit animated but it may be not enoguh, I ll try some other altrnatives...

anyway, thanks a lot for your good comments,
alkim.

Thank you Alkim.
A journey discovering life under and over snow and ice linked by snowmelt to spring and summer of waterfowl, harriers, black kites, cranes, a frenzied phalarope (I think), a magnificent black stork and 4-footed life in a wild setting of seasonal waterfalls and grasslands.

A welcome insight for me. 2 superb shrubs, daphne glomerata and azalea luteum grow together near this area which I'd love to visit. The winter/spring weather charts show it as permanently below freezing but your film shows that sunshine at that latitude is quite hot in springtime forcing rapid change of seasons. Very interesting.

hi brendan,

thanks a lot. in a short time I ll send and review the species of that area. your guess " frenzied phalarope" is " Wood Sandpiper / Tringa glareola " in my film. we have three species of phalarope, which are; Grey Phalarope / Phalaropus fulicarius, Wilson's Phalarope / Phalaropus tricolor, Red-necked Phalarope / Phalaropus lobatus.

thanks for your comments,

alkim.

Just beautiful. I haven't put aside the time to watch the whole thing but from what I saw, I'm looking forward to getting to know a piece of the world I didn't know existed. Thank you for your hard work.

Mick Haensler
Higher Ground Media

Just beautiful. I haven't put aside the time to watch the whole thing but from what I saw, I'm looking forward to getting to know a piece of the world I didn't know existed. Thank you for your hard work.

Mick Haensler
Higher Ground Media

thanks mick

alkim.

Alkim, like the others who have replied, I found your documentary to be very fascinating and I was unable to stop watching until it finished. I am personally involved in wildlife issues and in making videos of nature and I recognized that there was good and substantial content to your production. The descriptions of what is shown are excellent and the writing and presentation of the subject were very professional. I hope that this region maintains its way of life. Its existence gives us hope for other areas of the world. I would like to see more documentaries like this from you and the production values you display, give inspiration to all of us on this forum. Your camera work was very steady and the scenes well-framed.

The video would be improved with more natural sounds that are louder, in some cases. The narrator has a very dignified and pleasing voice and this added a lot to the production. I assume that you have several versions of the soundtrack with different languages for the narration. The narrator on this English version has a good command of the language, but mispronounced some important words and this might be changed, to improve it. The mispronounced words I noticed were: vegetation, species, brook, sparse, scarce, wilderness, height, unique, occurred, locals, numerous, meadow, predators, hosting, scythe, worms, continuity, thousand, pristine and migrate. The word "wolves" was mispronounced several times, but then, it was pronounced correctly a few times. Some other suggestions: When the fox catches rodents, the word "tries" would be better than "tryouts". There is a statement made by the narrator that "The main feature of the Karsardahan Plateau is its plateaus". This might be re-written so the word "plateau" isn't used twice in the same sentence. It would have been good to identify the cranes by species. At the end of the sequence about Marsh Harriers, there was a shot of a large raptor flying overhead. Was this a harrier? It looked much larger, as though it might be an eagle. One addition to the video I would have liked, would be a map of the region, briefly showing the part of Turkey where the plateau is located.

Special note to viewers on Vimeo: I downloaded this video before watching it and was able to see much better picture quality than by viewing it directly on Vimeo. They compress it too much and by downloading the original uploaded version, you get a bit-rate that is about 4 times higher. The download button is in the lower-right corner of the page for each video. You have to go through the free registration on Vimeo, to be able to download the full-quality version. The RealPlayer download offered on the button in the upper part of the screen, is even more compressed and has poor quality. I was able to watch it in full widescreen mode, rather than the small window that is the normal size. I found that Windows Media Player did the best job with both the video and the audio, while RealPlayer and MPC didn't do as well, especially with the audio. Miro played it with even worse audio quality.

May I interrupt to say that Steve has now delivered serious insight into your film Alkim.

It's easy for me to come along after him and say that I agree with every word he wrote. I do. But it was he who found and expressed all those constructive suggestions which I believe would give your video the audio and language clarity it deserves.

A truly captivating video, congratulations on the beautiful images. A lot of hard work has gone into this production.

On a personal note I would enter the video into some overseas festivals and I am sure you will receive the accolades it deserves

Bob

A beautifully shot video, and one to be proud of. Of course, there are a few things that I would have done differently, but that doesn't mean your way wasn't equally right.

The opening scenes - I would fade from one to another - the straight cuts didn't (for me) tie in with the mood of the music.

Some of the scenery with something (eg the train) happening at the bottom of the picture - I thought the action was too near the bottom or perhaps I am being pedantic about the so-called "safe areas" within the frame.

The narrator has a beautiful voice. But, as others have said, some words were mispronounced. I think I would have largely overlooked this, except that the English grammar was not always correct, and some sentences were too long, so the overall effect was spoilt. The trees are Scot's Pines - Scotch is a type of whisky, or the manufacturer of a sticky tape. The plateau is known for its high pastures. If you would like to send me the script privately, I would be happy to amend it for you.

But well done for your efforts, and thank you for sharing it.

Alkim, like the others who have replied, I found your documentary to be very fascinating and I was unable to stop watching until it finished. I am personally involved in wildlife issues and in making videos of nature and I recognized that there was good and substantial content to your production. The descriptions of what is shown are excellent and the writing and presentation of the subject were very professional. I hope that this region maintains its way of life. Its existence gives us hope for other areas of the world. I would like to see more documentaries like this from you and the production values you display, give inspiration to all of us on this forum. Your camera work was very steady and the scenes well-framed.

The video would be improved with more natural sounds that are louder, in some cases. The narrator has a very dignified and pleasing voice and this added a lot to the production. I assume that you have several versions of the soundtrack with different languages for the narration. The narrator on this English version has a good command of the language, but mispronounced some important words and this might be changed, to improve it. The mispronounced words I noticed were: vegetation, species, brook, sparse, scarce, wilderness, height, unique, occurred, locals, numerous, meadow, predators, hosting, scythe, worms, continuity, thousand, pristine and migrate. The word "wolves" was mispronounced several times, but then, it was pronounced correctly a few times. Some other suggestions: When the fox catches rodents, the word "tries" would be better than "tryouts". There is a statement made by the narrator that "The main feature of the Karsardahan Plateau is its plateaus". This might be re-written so the word "plateau" isn't used twice in the same sentence. It would have been good to identify the cranes by species. At the end of the sequence about Marsh Harriers, there was a shot of a large raptor flying overhead. Was this a harrier? It looked much larger, as though it might be an eagle. One addition to the video I would have liked, would be a map of the region, briefly showing the part of Turkey where the plateau is located.

Special note to viewers on Vimeo: I downloaded this video before watching it and was able to see much better picture quality than by viewing it directly on Vimeo. They compress it too much and by downloading the original uploaded version, you get a bit-rate that is about 4 times higher. The download button is in the lower-right corner of the page for each video. You have to go through the free registration on Vimeo, to be able to download the full-quality version. The RealPlayer download offered on the button in the upper part of the screen, is even more compressed and has poor quality. I was able to watch it in full widescreen mode, rather than the small window that is the normal size. I found that Windows Media Player did the best job with both the video and the audio, while RealPlayer and MPC didn't do as well, especially with the audio. Miro played it with even worse audio quality.

hi steve,

your comments are very valuable for me. the main reason for sharing my film was, first during the production stages, I got many technical knowledge from this forum, and second was; as you guys are somehow related to video production, and except being an audiance, watch and behave as an editor of this film. for me, especially the negative comments are valuable.

for the mispronounced and wrong sentences, I ll have a look at them again and try to find a way to narrate it again, may be different person, but in turkey, it is hard to find a good narrator have both good sound color and english speaking. but I try it.

the raptor after the marsh haariers is "Lesser Spotted Eagle - Aquila pomarina".

about the Map of the region is a very good idea, though I tought that before, but now I try to find a map or sattelite image, and put it very begining og the film with a small aniation- a zoom or smtng that highlight the area. by the way do you know, can we use google-earth images without having a copyright problems ?

one another thing is I upload the wrong version of film :) . because in the original one, the last scene man with scythe -at 24.29 min - sound is missing, there should be loud effect of cut. second the credit is turkish :) so with a map, sound, english credit and bigger version, I ll upload it again.

thanks

alkim.

A truly captivating video, congratulations on the beautiful images. A lot of hard work has gone into this production.

On a personal note I would enter the video into some overseas festivals and I am sure you will receive the accolades it deserves

Bob

hi bob,

thank you for your good comments. I start to send this film to the festivals. but interestingly, when I start to find, I noticed that huge numbers of festivals are present, and I totally lost among them. also it is incredibly big time consuming process !

alkim.

A beautifully shot video, and one to be proud of. Of course, there are a few things that I would have done differently, but that doesn't mean your way wasn't equally right.

The opening scenes - I would fade from one to another - the straight cuts didn't (for me) tie in with the mood of the music.

Some of the scenery with something (eg the train) happening at the bottom of the picture - I thought the action was too near the bottom or perhaps I am being pedantic about the so-called "safe areas" within the frame.

The narrator has a beautiful voice. But, as others have said, some words were mispronounced. I think I would have largely overlooked this, except that the English grammar was not always correct, and some sentences were too long, so the overall effect was spoilt. The trees are Scot's Pines - Scotch is a type of whisky, or the manufacturer of a sticky tape. The plateau is known for its high pastures. If you would like to send me the script privately, I would be happy to amend it for you.

But well done for your efforts, and thank you for sharing it.

hi annie,

thanks for your comments.

believe me that, during editing, I spent most of the time to beginning and the end sections. it very hard to start, hence I left it to end, finished the inner sections and then turn back the begining. as you said, I tried many combinations of clips and transitions including fades and dissolves. but I noticed something very interesting:

- at the beginning of the editing, normally started from begining of film, the landscapes esp. the winters' ones - as film would move to throuhg seasons - and the transitions and fades make me happy. then I jumped to the inner parts. after finishing rough cut, these fades damaged the beining, and made the film "an amateur look". if this film tell only winter season, and made from the landscapes, such fades look good; but, the sections and different subjects came after, these fades look "somhow artificial". in either case I watched it again and again, then I decided "the cuts" instead of fades.

also I noticed another point is; effects are very related to total duration of the film. may be such kind of judgment might be true ? "longer the film, less the effects and transitions".

and you are very kind to offer editing the script again, I ll send it to you, be sure :)

and add all of your names in credits, including the dvinfo.net

thanks a lot,

alkim.

The trees are Scot's Pines - Scotch is a type of whisky, or the manufacturer of a sticky tape.

Annie is correct about the proper common name of the trees being "Scot's Pine". As a Scot, I'm always a bit bothered by the substitution of the word "Scotch" for "Scot's" in reference to us and our things. However, in the U.S., we have always called this tree "Scotch Pine" and there are millions of them here, from imported stock. I have one growing in my yard that was smuggled in by a relative, along with some Scot's Heather, from my family's home grounds in the Western Isles. It never occurred to me to call it anything other than "Scotch Pine" and in the video's narration, the use of that name caused me no irritation. The native tree was wiped out in England (Breoton) and Wales (Cymru) and has been re-introduced from Scotland (Alba). Here's the Wikipedia page about the tree:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_Pine

Annie is correct about the proper common name of the trees being "Scot's Pine". As a Scot, I'm always a bit bothered by the substitution of the word "Scotch" for "Scot's" in reference to us and our things. However, in the U.S., we have always called this tree "Scotch Pine" and there are millions of them here, from imported stock. I have one growing in my yard that was smuggled in by a relative, along with some Scot's Heather, from my family's home grounds in the Western Isles. It never occurred to me to call it anything other than "Scotch Pine" and in the video's narration, the use of that name caused me no irritation. The native tree was wiped out in England (Breoton) and Wales (Cymru) and has been re-introduced from Scotland (Alba). Here's the Wikipedia page about the tree:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_Pine

yes you both are right, I check the script today and the mistake was not belong the narrator, but the translator. she translated it as "scotch" not "scots". hence I ll record the narration again.

so what about the sound color of the narrator. This guy is a famous actor and narrator here in turkey and he also narrated the turkish version as well. waht you guys think ?

alkim.

What's the expression - divided by a common language? ok, I will try not to cringe any time I hear a north American person refer to a Scotch pine.

The narrator's voice is wonderful, even with the slightly quirky pronunciation. I would keep him.

As for those initial transitions, I think it probably is a matter of personal preference. I did not find any problems with transitions in the rest of the film, and probably with different music, I would not have noticed them at the beginning.

I think the narrator has a great voice, don't change him

His voice is very expressive and you wouldn't want to replace him. He sounds a lot like one of our best American actors and narrators. Since he is a professional, I think he could easily change his pronunciations of those words. There's no need for him to sound like a native English speaker, nor for the script to be worded in precise colloquial English terms. After all, it's a Turkish production and viewers expect the narration to have some elements and flavors of your culture in it.

Hi Alkim,

I agree with J Stephen McDonald but I would go furhter and say not to alter the narration at all, without being disrespectful to your filming and editing its the narration that links it altogether which in turn makes it so watchable.

There is a very famous Indian tiger expert who's narration on films he has produced for the BBC is sometimes way off to western ears, but his slow and warm delivery makes captivating viewing.

I have not read any comments in this thread that indicates the writer of it did not understand what was said.

Many english words get pronounced in various ways by the many different races around the world, after all even us English and Americans cannot agree how spell aluminium/aluminum and therefore have different pronunciations.


So I would leave it as it is.

regards

Mick

Special note to viewers on Vimeo: I downloaded this video before watching it and was able to see much better picture quality than by viewing it directly on Vimeo.

Steve, (if you get back to this thread)

Having downloaded the movie could you tell me how big the final vimeo file size is? I have limited bandwidth in S.A. and I'm not sure I have enough left to download a large 30 minute video. (Vimeo should really make file sizes available.) Thanks.

I start to send this film to the festivals. but interestingly, when I start to find, I noticed that huge numbers of festivals are present, and I totally lost among them. also it is incredibly big time consuming process !


Hi Alkim: I'm glad to see you're getting so much good feedback on your film...posting to DVinfo is definitely the way to go.

regarding festivals, (and this is a general comment, not specifically directed at your film), they are typically looking for very focused stories, on single species or specific events, not so much on general diversity or general regions. There are so few of these around, and the competition, as you say, is very tough. On the web, we love movies about the general diversity because it is a chance to armchair-travel to parts of the world that we've never seen and visit with species that we don't know about, but for festivals and TV, it is all about a story with a very specific focus that is most warmly received.

I'm wondering if there is a market for educational videos that would be appropriate...for schools, I mean...

Steve, (if you get back to this thread)

Having downloaded the movie could you tell me how big the final vimeo file size is? I have limited bandwidth in S.A. and I'm not sure I have enough left to download a large 30 minute video. (Vimeo should really make file sizes available.) Thanks.

Marj, the download from Vimeo for Alkim's video is 168 MB. Its size is 480 X 270 in Quicktime. These specs are shown next to the download button in the lower-right corner of the video's page. If you do a right-click on the download button, then click on Save Target As, you can designate a folder on your computer to save it for future playbacks. If you do a left-click on the button, it will be downloaded and playable only during that visit. Apple users may have to use a different procedure. You have to be registered on Vimeo to do these downloads for the videos of the contributors and not all of them have granted this permission. Thanks to Alkim for making the video available in this way. I always mark my videos on Vimeo as open for downloading, as it's the only way anyone can see them at a quality level close to the original. The download button in the upper-right corner of the window is for a RealPlayer download only. They are so highly-compressed, they're not of much use. By playing the downloaded version of Alkim's video and shifting it to full-screen, using Windows Media Player 11, I can see a widescreen picture that is of fairly good quality, considering that it is from a 480 X 270 source. Other people may want to watch it in the small, standard window, for a sharper picture. If you watch it with a small window directly from Vimeo, the picture quality is good enough, if you don't have the bit-space to download it. I tried playing it with RealPlayer and Miro, but they didn't do as good a job with it and Miro's audio was poor.

Thanks Steve. Didn’t realize the original file size was tucked away down there.

So far I have only watched a couple of videos on Vimeo using their screen and I was bemoaning the fact that there is no indication of the compressed file size anywhere there.

I understand, however, the videos are compressed to about half to one third of the original size - so knowing the original size gives me a rough idea anyway.

I must say Alkim, its quite amazing that you managed to squeeze a 30-minute video down to 165MB. I won’t have a problem with that at all.

ok, I dont think to change the narrator, but I respect your comments so they are important for me.

about the mispronounced words I ll ask if we can record again. but also at this stage, it is a little bit late, because we already duplicate more than 10000 copy of dvd. this dvd include both turkish and english version.

meryem,

you are right about festival submissions and what they look for. and this film is a "dependent" doc, and its first aim is increasing public awarennes about environmental and ecological issues. during the scritp and consept stage, we have worked many experts of; rural development, ecology and fauna profs. and also pedgogy. and we also considered the children and youngs during the editing of script. as a conclusion this is a film kind of scetches of that area and meets the educatıonal needs.

another important point is; we produced it for free distrbution. we gave all 10000 copy to the local people in Kars and Ardahan, primary and secondary schools, universities many governmental and non-governmental instutions.

by the way, if I can find a pc and completed the small things of the film, I ll upload much larger version of it so keep watching, and then you can get them.

now I m also uploading the older Target Zero EXtincion Films to vimeo and they are 640x380. after I finished the winter shots of this documentary project I went to İstanbul and produced these 5 films from the same matarials. then turned back to the field and completed the spring and summer shots. during the editing of doc, I try not to use the same material of these short films.

I think they ll be ready tomorrow, because vimeo takes half day to convert them..

anyway,

best regards to all,

alkım.

Thanks Steve. Didn’t realize the original file size was tucked away down there.

So far I have only watched a couple of videos on Vimeo using their screen and I was bemoaning the fact that there is no indication of the compressed file size anywhere there.

I understand, however, the videos are compressed to about half to one third of the original size - so knowing the original size gives me a rough idea anyway.

I must say Alkim, its quite amazing that you managed to squeeze a 30-minute video down to 165MB. I won’t have a problem with that at all.

hi marj,

I use compressor inside the FCS 2. set the bitrate about 1000 kbps and resolution is 480x270 or 640x360, thats all,

thanks,
alkim.

Marj, the download from Vimeo for Alkim's video is 168 MB. Its size is 480 X 270 in Quicktime. These specs are shown next to the download button in the lower-right corner of the video's page. If you do a right-click on the download button, then click on Save Target As, you can designate a folder on your computer to save it for future playbacks. If you do a left-click on the button, it will be downloaded and playable only during that visit. Apple users may have to use a different procedure. You have to be registered on Vimeo to do these downloads for the videos of the contributors and not all of them have granted this permission. Thanks to Alkim for making the video available in this way. I always mark my videos on Vimeo as open for downloading, as it's the only way anyone can see them at a quality level close to the original. The download button in the upper-right corner of the window is for a RealPlayer download only. They are so highly-compressed, they're not of much use. By playing the downloaded version of Alkim's video and shifting it to full-screen, using Windows Media Player 11, I can see a widescreen picture that is of fairly good quality, considering that it is from a 480 X 270 source. Other people may want to watch it in the small, standard window, for a sharper picture. If you watch it with a small window directly from Vimeo, the picture quality is good enough, if you don't have the bit-space to download it. I tried playing it with RealPlayer and Miro, but they didn't do as good a job with it and Miro's audio was poor.

steve,

I watched your small films on vimeo. your camera is HC9. it is quite good. now I think to buy SR12 because of its 120gb hardisk. and it is nearly identical to HC9. do you have any idea or suggestions,

thanks,

alkim.

Alkim, thanks for looking at my videos. I have several cassettes full of footage I haven't edited yet, because during this time of good weather, I've been spending my time out in the field. As soon as we have some days of rain, I will have some more finished short videos to put on Vimeo.

I spent a long time considering several camcorder models before I picked the Sony HC9. I wanted to stay with tape, because I've had such good luck with it. My Hi-8 and ED-Beta recordings on metal tape from 19 years ago, are still playing back as good as they ever did.

The Sony SR12 seems to be well-regarded by most people who use it, as you can tell from the remarks on the DV Info forum for that group of models. They say that the image quality is even a bit better than that of the HC9, because the SR12 has a more advanced type of CMOS sensor. The AVCHD/MPEG-4 recording system it uses has a bit-rate of only 16 Mbps, as opposed to 25 Mbps for HDV models, but the AVCHD CoDec seems to be delivering very good performance. You could store about 15 hours of HD video on its harddrive. You could carry a laptop computer with you into the field, to offload the harddrive recordings and even do some editing with it, all on battery power. You need more processing power in your computer to edit AVCHD, but I'm sure you have all you need for that. The SR12 has the best viewscreen that has ever been put on a camcorder, with more than 900,000 pixels. The same viewscreen is used on the Nikon D3 D-SLR camera, which is one of the best of its type. This viewscreen would give you a big advantage in focusing. If you search the HD videos on Vimeo, you could probably find some that were shot with the Sony SR12 or the SR11. Good luck.

Hi Alkim

Excellent footage, in fact all are excellent, the film with fox hunting, the music, the comment and the Ehglish.
Really nice picture.

Best regards

Gilles

Hi Alkim

Excellent footage, in fact all are excellent, the film with fox hunting, the music, the comment and the Ehglish.
Really nice picture.

Best regards

Gilles

thanks a lot Gilles,
regards,
alkim.