Preparing to sell my EX1 and move to EX3 in early Jan and am wondering about battery life and if it is worth keeping my Sony batteries.

Currently I use the Sony BP-U60 on the EX1 with decent battery life the stock BP-U30 is only used for testing and short sessions. I have purchased an Anton Bauer Dionic 90 to run my Flash XDR and wondered what the battery life is with the AB Dionic 90 compared to the BP-U60? Also the Dionic 160, which I know, is more but how much more.

I haven't yet exhausted my 90 on a shoot, but then I don't shoot like a lot of people. I'll leave the camera on and shoot 50% of the time over maybe a three hour period a couple days in a row and that will usually wear it down pretty far.

I'd guess it is goog for a solid five to six hours.

Thanks Ted I get about 3 - 4 hrs from the U60 depending on the operating temp.

brand new Dionic 90s are around 400 from B&H-160s are about 950 so it's a big price difference. Granted almost 2x as much battery but the 90 weights in at 1.7 pounds and the 160 at 3.4 pounds. It can be a arm breaking difference.
I've use the 90s and Hytron 120s for a long time and frankly give me the 90s any day of the week. Just my opinion. You might also want to check to see if the battery mount on the EX3 will tolerate the added weight. May not seem like a lot but...

Don

Thanks Don they do sell the adapter that goes into the battery compartment and holds the 90 then plugs to DC in. I have not heard if this is too heavy for the battery compartment on the camera.

As for weight I am not worried about the extra weight on my shoulder if I have the added hours.

I'm sure the battery plate and the 90s would work as far as weight - the 160s might be too heavy for the mount of the camera. What I mean is that on a full size camera the mounting plate is firmly attached to the camera in a flat postision (vertical) and is not in any way mounted into a battery compartment. The AB mount covers the V mount and is screwed into the camera and it has a large surface contact plus it has a 'shelf' so to speak to reast on. When I was using the Hytron 120s they weighted in at 5.5 pounds so you needed a very solid mount. The Dionics are far less of course (1.7 pounds) and it hardly felt like a battery was even on the camera.
What I getting at is make sure the attachment point of the camera will take the weight, hate to have it break. BTW a 90 on a camera pulling 20W will go for about 4 hours without any other accessories. I used to run my receiver and AB light off of a 90 and it would go for about 2 to 2/12 hours depending on the amount I was using the light. That was and AB Ultralight with a 35W bulb. 4 90s would handle just about any job I had going.
Like I say, just check to make sure the area of the camera that the mounting plate attaches to will take the added weight of the 160.
Hope it works for you.

Don

I use the Dionic 90 battery with the EX-3 Anton Bauer adapter. It´s a nice set up, making me able to power my EX-3 AND Zylight Z90 camera light using only one battery. I haven´t done much handheld shooting with this set up, but the balance seems ok. I wouldn´t put on a heavier battery though. I find the Dionic battery much more practical to use than my Anton Bauer HyTrons, due to capacity. If you go to the Anton Bauer web site you´ll find a calculator that will help you calculate the power usage for your particular camera or monitor.

Best,
-terje

Wasn't there some talk awhile back regarding the Tekkeon MP-3450? Or would that battery not work for long?

Tekkeon | MP3450 myPower ALL Universal Rechargeable | MP3450 (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/503090-REG/Tekkeon_MP3450_MP3450_myPower_ALL_Universal.html)

John

Thanks Don I will keep an eye on the attachment point.

Terje that is the part I purchased with the AB Dionic 90 as a package to power my Flash XDR since it was a good package deal. Nice that this attachment has a D-Tap.

Looks like I will go AB and sell my U60's with my EX1 in a couple of weeks.

I didn´t know about the adapter, Paul. Sorry for this. Yes, it´s a great solution. My only concern is that it´s sometimes easy for the adapter to slide out of EX3´s battery slot (ie when I go from handheld to tripod, or need to adjust the mattebox. I tend to forget that the battery is "loose". I´ve had at least TWO near accident happenings). I would prefer to keep at least ONE original battery. There are situation where you need to travel light or maybe shoot on the side (chroma keying). At least this is what I´ve experienced.

-terje

Terje the adapter seems like it would be pretty solidly attached but I do not have experience with it in the field. It would be a bad day if it fell off.

Good point on the international travel small and light is always better so the two U60's could be worth keeping. Also used they will not bring in much cash towards the new gear.

Thanks guys for the input always appreciated.

You are right. The adapter feels solid. Just remember to keep to camera upright! Or else you´ll end up with just the power cable left in the camera... Knock on wood! :-)

-terje

Yikes good advice I might strap that one on.

Are you guys saying that this adaptor doesn't clip in properly and falls out easily?

Might want to consider the Swit batt. Li-ion Battery S-8U62(for Sony PMW-EX1) (http://www.swit.us/libas.html). $185, 63Wa and a D tap. I just received one and am testing it out on the EX1. It is a 1/2 inch longer than the BP U60.

Kevin Simon is talking EX3.

Yes Simon, it´s my impression that the battery MIGHT fall out easily IF you of any reason do not use the camera leveled to the ground. During a shoot everything happens quickly. Maybe you need (as me) to exchange the matte box adapter and you, without thinking of it, turns the camera upside down...

BUT - I must also say that this scenario can easily be avoided if you slide a small plastic "item" (carefully!) right above the Anton Bauer adapter (it leaves a small space in EX-3´s battery slot, 5-7 mm). The battery adapter itself do not snap in place, like the original battery. It just uses the mounts in the battery slot, which seem to be an okay solution

That said, this adapter is the only way to go if you want to power light AND camcorder simultanously. And it take just a second to slide it in. No hassle with screw drivers...

-terje

Might want to consider the Swit batt. Li-ion Battery S-8U62(for Sony PMW-EX1). $185, 63Wa and a D tap. I just received one and am testing it out on the EX1. It is a 1/2 inch longer than the BP U60.

One of the reasons the AB adaptor looked good is because it is about the same price as one SWIT battery, yet it allows me to use all of my Dionic 90's.

I wonder why they didn't make it snap into place like the original battery.

Kevin:
I got the Switt battery as well and haven't done much with it. I charged it and ran some playback for 15 minutes and noticed the last light on the LED went out. I hope this is normal and not an indication of a rapid discharge.

Phil

Simon how about a heavy rubber band to keep it down? Just a thought.

One of the reasons the AB adaptor looked good is because it is about the same price as one SWIT battery, yet it allows me to use all of my Dionic 90's.

I wonder why they didn't make it snap into place like the original battery.

Hi
I have now designed V-Lock and Gold Mount battery adapters for the EX3 photo attached
These will be available from H.Preston Malvern url=http://www.videokit.co.uk
They will also have kits containing Batteries, a light and charger.

I was ready to buy an AB battery kit for my EX 3 but since both of my BP-U60 batteries give me over 300 minutes each, I had no reason to spend up big on the AB.

I will need to re-asses battery requirements once I receive my nanoflash recorder from Convergent Design.

Until then I can go all day and then some with the 2 batteries.

Preparing to sell my EX1 and move to EX3 in early Jan and am wondering about battery life and if it is worth keeping my Sony batteries.

Currently I use the Sony BP-U60 on the EX1 with decent battery life the stock BP-U30 is only used for testing and short sessions. I have purchased an Anton Bauer Dionic 90 to run my Flash XDR and wondered what the battery life is with the AB Dionic 90 compared to the BP-U60? Also the Dionic 160, which I know, is more but how much more.

Hi its simple to work out what run time you should get from a camera simply divide the "W" power rating figure on your camera by the Wh capacity of the battery EG. a 60Wh battery will power a camera rated at 10W for 6 hours a 90W battery for 9 hours. But bare in mind, the W rating on your camera might not include the viewfinder which in effect is a light, so the brighter it is the more power it uses. Also low light high gain, auto focus and zoom uses power. Many cameras also use just as much power in record pause mode as when recording.

The QR-EX3 Gold Mount for the EX3 camera works very well with the Hytron 50, Dionic 90, and Dionic 160.
The mount was designed to keep off the Hytron 100/120/140, ProPac and Digital ProPac14 because of weight considerations. However, this design will also keep the TrimPac and Digital TrimPac battery from mounting correctly.

Estimated runtimes (assuming a 14 watt draw) for the:
Dionic 90 = 6.5 hours list price $499 USD
Hytron 50= 3.6 hours list price $299 USD
Dionic 160 =11.5 hours :)

Scott Keyworth
Anton/Bauer, Inc.

I've been using the Dionic 90 (on the dm-accessories mount) and it's worked great. I get long run times, never change a battery all day, and by opening the hinged rear plate it helps to balance the weight of the camera. They make a great combo!

When I know that I'm not going shoulder-mounted, I remove the rearmost section and mount the battery closer/lower. Still helps balance the camara a little and drops it's center of gravity and overall weight.

I've not used the stock Sony battery since the first week I got the camera!

The QR-EX3 Gold Mount for the EX3 camera works very well with the Hytron 50, Dionic 90, and Dionic 160.
The mount was designed to keep off the Hytron 100/120/140, ProPac and Digital ProPac14 because of weight considerations. However, this design will also keep the TrimPac and Digital TrimPac battery from mounting correctly.

Estimated runtimes (assuming a 14 watt draw) for the:
Dionic 90 = 6.5 hours list price $499 USD
Hytron 50= 3.6 hours list price $299 USD
Dionic 160 =11.5 hours :)

Scott Keyworth
Anton/Bauer, Inc.