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Robert Butler
November 4th, 2003, 05:12 PM
I was wondering... does the Sennheiser ME66 comes with an on-camera shock mount? From the images, it looks like it only has a pole mount. I know on-camera mounting is frowned upon, but I'd like the option.

If it doesn't come with one, does anyone have suggestions as to where I could get a good shock mount? Thanks.

Rob Wilson
November 4th, 2003, 05:31 PM
Robert,

The 66/K6 combo doens't usually come with any mount at all. As a minimum, you an use a beyerdynamic EA 86 shock mount but you'll also need to budget for a windscreen if you're even thinking about using it outside. Rycote seems to have the best reputation (and of course, highest cost) but others are out there.

Bryan Beasleigh
November 4th, 2003, 06:04 PM
I use an AT8415 shock mount ($50)
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=68143&is=REG

The 8515 is versatile in that it will hold mics of .5" diameter to 2.13". the 8415 is ideal on a boom pole or a camera hot shoe.

You will need a shoe adapter to screw onto the bottom of the 8415( $10 )
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=68160&is=REG

Matthew de Jongh
December 8th, 2003, 06:01 PM
ok i've been looking at the me-66 with the k6 combo pistol grip etc.

so the at8415 would work along with the above mentioned shoe adaptor so i could put it on top of a pd-170 or dvx-100?

it says that the k6 pistol grippy thing is adaptable to a boom-pole, is there a specific mount/model that is needed? i know squat about boom poles.

matthew

Marty Wein
December 8th, 2003, 06:19 PM
Yes the AT8415 will work on any shoe mount when used with the Audio Technica shoe adapter.

Remote Audio makes a very nice grip that will attach to the shock mount (or any other mount with a 3/8 thread) and also has a thread on the bottom that will allow you to use it on a boom pole without having to remove the grip first.

www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home;jsessionid=1VTwPGN1Go!958963593?ci=1&sb=ps&pn=1&sq=desc&InitialSearch=yes&O=SearchBar&A=search&Q=*&shs=auat8415

www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=details_accessories&A=details&Q=&sku=68160&is=REG

www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=283348&is=REG

Marty Wein
December 8th, 2003, 06:23 PM
<<<-- Originally posted by Matthew de Jongh : it says that the k6 pistol grippy thing is adaptable to a boom-pole, is there a specific mount/model that is needed? -->>>

I believe you reffer to the Rycote pistol grip. If so, the grip has a 3/8 thread and will mount to all popular boom poles on the market (K-Tek, VDB, Gitzo, Beyerdynamics)

Matthew de Jongh
December 8th, 2003, 06:34 PM
yeah, the rycote/me-66/k6 bundle

thanks for the links, that helps a lot. you have stuff i couldn't find on bh's site

i called on the phone to ask a few questions but they seem as though they either want you to just have the part # and be ready to order or just come down to the showroom.

i'm trying to do as much research as i can before i show up down there, because i just KNOW it will be overwelming with all the toys and gadgets there!

now i just need to find a decent bracket to hold the sennheiser wireless system on the camera. the bracket1 looks decent but kind of a clunky design.

may just have to make my own.

matthew

Marty Wein
December 8th, 2003, 06:59 PM
The Bracket 1 is not as clunky as it looks on the picture. It actually looks very good on the DVX-100 and PD-150 (I believe the PD-170 has the same footprint as the PD-150) and is only 8.2 oz.

Brian T. Young
December 8th, 2003, 10:39 PM
bracket1 is far from clunky. nice bit of kit. good price, too - the BEC piece is 200+ and on the DVX it puts your RX a long way from the XLRs.

Mike Rehmus
December 8th, 2003, 10:57 PM
Try calling Light Wave System if you want some good help. They make everything you need for the 66.

Do be careful with the length of the microphone. It can intrude into the camera's field of view. Especially with wide angle adapters.

Marty Wein
December 8th, 2003, 11:04 PM
The bracket 1 can also accommodate the BEC wireless receiver mounting boxes which protects the receiver and also looks more professional.

www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?ci=1&sb=ps&pn=1&sq=desc&InitialSearch=yes&O=SearchBar&A=search&Q=*&shs=bec+Mounting+Box+for+Mounting

Bryan Beasleigh
December 9th, 2003, 12:13 AM
The Mini Rover will give you a very balanced grip as well a means to carry a shotgun mic and a radio receiver. See the example at the bottom of this page(link).

http://www.dvshop.ca/camera/videosmith.html

Don't let the pricing give you heart failure, it's in Canadian $. This is for illustration only. It's $50 from B&H and the adapter plate for the receiver is around $15. I can mount my AT 8415 shock mount and Velcro my Sennheiser receiver to the mini mate .

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=194070&is=REG

I use this grip on a VX2000 and it allows me to get a solid grip on the camera, with my elbows tight against my upper body. The camera moves with your upper torso. No shake at all.

The Bracket 1 is nice but you still have nothing to hang onto. Try it , you'll like it.

Do a search in Support your cam.

Matthew de Jongh
December 25th, 2003, 09:00 PM
well the rover confuses me, the grip is above the horizontal bar that connects to the tripod screw hole...

so you have your right hand on the camera in the normal position, and then you have your left hand up high to hold the handle?

this seems awkward to me.

i could see it a bit more if the handle went down from the cross bar, it bugs me that the pictures of it are never showing it in real use.

matthew

Bryan Beasleigh
December 25th, 2003, 10:31 PM
Holding a camera attached to the mighty wondercam mini rover, you will have both arms and elbows tucked into your body very tightly, forming an extremely rigid , yet flexible support.
If you search this fully I don't really know if i get any more in depth but it works. Others have verified it. Order one and take a chance.
email me at bbeasleigh at rogers dot com and we can talk.

No sense in dragging the online experience on.

Those that have tried it have always agreed.

Jay Massengill
December 26th, 2003, 11:03 AM
I agree that most users of the Mini Rover like it. However, the grip that I built out of parts works like Matthew suggests, with the vertical grip directly below the center of gravity of the whole rig.
Advantage of Mini Rover: It looks professionally made and comes ready to use and you can sit the camera directly down on a flat surface.
Advantage of my rig: It cost about $18 and is better balanced. It also takes up very little space once you unscrew the handle, which you have to do to sit the rig on a flat surface. You can also substitute longer handles for raising the camera above your head or a medium handle for use while sitting in a chair. People have also mentioned that they use a monopod to accomplish something similar but that's limited on where your center of gravity is. I have a lot of audio gear attached, so I needed to be able to shift the mounting point.
So if you like to tinker, go to a pro still-camera shop and look at all their flash brackets. I used a simple flat one and added a table-leg-bracket-plate and a rigged BMX bike grip handle so I can adapt to the center of gravity by shifting the mounting point.
If you don't like to build things yourself, buy the Mini Rover or one of the right-angle flash brackets that are similar in shape.

Bryan Beasleigh
December 26th, 2003, 01:31 PM
There is absolutely no reason why you couldn't mount a grip under the main upright grip on the mini rover. You need the upright grip portion to mount the sound gear so that would stay.

The aluminum bar on the mini is thick enough to drill and tap. There are many grips that are available with male screw threads.

I tried the mini as you mentioned but there isn.t as much regidity using the grip on the bottom.

You want cheaper
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=131401&is=REG

Jay Massengill
December 26th, 2003, 02:34 PM
I had to shift my mounting point forward of the bracket itself, not just side to side, so using an additional plate as well as the long slot on the flash bracket worked well for me to get total adjustment flexibility. I think it's safe to say any of these could be used and modified with great success. I certainly know that using any kind of vertical handle in addition to gripping the camera with the right hand is a huge benefit.

Matthew de Jongh
December 26th, 2003, 06:10 PM
can you post a picture of the one you built?

matthew