Andrew Leigh
June 28th, 2002, 12:49 PM
Chris,
I have the PAL version with the CR2025....no problem.
Andrew
I have the PAL version with the CR2025....no problem.
Andrew
View Full Version : Canon XL1 & XL1S Batteries / Battery Options Andrew Leigh June 28th, 2002, 12:49 PM Chris, I have the PAL version with the CR2025....no problem. Andrew Chris Hurd June 28th, 2002, 01:41 PM Thanks Andrew! Now to be sure that CUSA realizes that Steve's camera is a PAL unit... Alex Dolgin June 30th, 2002, 06:07 AM Steve, what exactly do you mean by "burned out"? What is the simptom? After you took the battery out, did you have a chance to measure the voltage on it? Thx Alex Steve Kim June 30th, 2002, 08:30 PM The voltage of a brand new backup battery was 3.3 V and a couple of week later on XL1S, it had reduced to 0.3 V. The original one was made by Panasonic and all others were made in Swiss and I purchased them at RadioShack. I measured them before and after except the original one. I did not notice any external changes except the low voltage. Alex Dolgin June 30th, 2002, 09:57 PM Yes, this pretty much excludes the possibility of the bad contact connection... I would say that you are right, there is a fault in the camera, drawing much more current than it should. The tech should be able to connect the ampmeter in series with the battery and actualy see what the current is. It should be very small, microamps. Alex Keith Loh July 19th, 2002, 12:42 PM Quick question: Can I use the AC adaptor at the same time as the battery is being charged? Keith Loh July 19th, 2002, 12:43 PM Never mind. I'm a dumb ass. The battery will not be charged as long as I have the adaptor plugged into the charger part. Chris Hurd July 20th, 2002, 12:12 AM And that stinks, doesn't it. Wouldn't it be great if the AC adapter charged a battery and powered the camera at the same time? Keith Loh July 20th, 2002, 10:08 AM <<<-- Originally posted by Chris Hurd : And that stinks, doesn't it. Wouldn't it be great if the AC adapter charged a battery and powered the camera at the same time? -->>> Indeed. I can understand this *slowing* the charging of the battery but ... I guess if I do this often enough I will either need more batteries or another AC adaptor. That's pretty far down on my list. Andrew Leigh July 20th, 2002, 12:10 PM Hi, I WOULD NOT TRY it but I would bet that it would work....for a short while. What disables the charging circuit is the plug on the charger when you plug in the camcorders adaptor. It appears to merely switch the available power from the battery to the camcorder. To disable this switch (like when you plug in earphones and the speaker switches off) I bet would leave both circuits running simultaneously. The problem would be that I would not think that the circuit was designed to deliver the amount of current required for both operations. It would have been so easy to have it do so at the design stage. If the use of the camcorder is intermittent and the load on the unit is minimal it may well work???? Don't try, these things get pricey. Cheers Andrew Jeff Donald July 20th, 2002, 02:22 PM I was searching for an extra battery charger about 6 months ago and came across the Lenmar Mach1 http://www.lenmar.com/Video/Chargers/msc1.asp The $99 in the ad is list if you buy it direct. I paid around $40.00 (on-line) and another $10 for the adapter to do the XL1 batteries. It also comes with a car adapter and adapters to do many different batteries. It works great. Charging times seem quicker than the standard Canon charger and after 6 months use my batteries seem fine. Jeff Nathan Gifford July 20th, 2002, 03:54 PM There's a lot more to charging Lith batteries these days. Part of the reason for this is so that the charging circuit can monitor the recharge process. Both Lemar and Maha make universal chargers. The Maha, comes as 12 volt charger and then uses adapters for wall power. This allows you to go put your battery in the car or wall power...your choice. I haven't looked for this model specifically, but they have advertised them as universal, so I am assuming that includes the XL-1 packs. Nathan Gifford blugill69 August 30th, 2002, 03:55 PM I have a Starvision 7 inch LCD monitor for my XL1s but have no portable powerpack for it. I am trying to find 12V battery packs but am having little luck. Anyone have a link to what I need? I've tried all over town. Jeff Donald August 30th, 2002, 04:34 PM I know of two good quality belts, NRG Research http://www.nrgresearch.com/cat.html and Bescor http://www.bescor.com/menu_battery.htm Zotz Digital probably carries one or the other http://www.zotzdigital.com/ Give them a try they help sponsor the site. Jeff B. Moore August 30th, 2002, 04:49 PM It might help to know where your located! Bruce blugill69 August 30th, 2002, 08:25 PM Oklahoma. Thanks fo rthe links! Will investigate! Marcus Farrar September 13th, 2002, 07:37 AM Greetings I have an adapter that allows you to use the regular XL1 batteries to power your monitor. It works great and keeps me from having one other wire hanging from my XL1. You can find more info on the Watchdog. Here is the link to the site. http://www.nebtek.com/5inch/NEB50Xl%20page.html I used velcro to attach the unit to the monitor. It works perfect. It is kind of nice only having to have one type of battery, and chargers. Andrew Petrie September 15th, 2002, 07:03 AM What are the specs on it? I've found some good prices on car TFTs, it's probably a more cost-effective solution to the more expensive camera-mounted TFTs available, the only draw back would be the lack of a shoe-mount, and the power source (spliced wires). The cheapest I've seen specifically for cameras is from Varizoom, but I'm not too keen on lead acid batteries. Has anyone gone this (car TV) route? Travelreview September 15th, 2002, 12:14 PM Although several battery packs will work (ie Nebtek and others) they tend to be expensive. For a cheap solution try the Varizoom battery pack for their monitors (around $65 with charger). It looks and feels like an old Sony NP1 or a regular laptop battery and works well with starvision 5.6 and 7 inch TFT LCD screens. Almost any rechargable battery with 12volts and between 750 and 1200 milliamps will also work fine. Ron TravelReview@Hotmail.com Ross Milligan September 19th, 2002, 02:26 AM Having listened to the advice posted to others on here (the search facility is really useful) I bought the Sennheiser ew100 wireless system and changed the 'on board' XL1 microphone with a Sennheiser MKE 300. I have just reviewed the footage of my first shoot and the improvement is significant - so thanks to everyone who has in the past recommended these mics. I was shooting a long operation and the battery in the ew100 receiver went down after about five hours and needed to be changed. Interestingly the transmitter was OK, although the low battery light was flashing, which was fortunate as it was under the sterile gown of a surgeon :-) So I learned the lesson to replace the batteries for each shoot! Anyway, my question is has anyone any idea how many hours the button battery on the MKE300 will last - or should I replace this after every days shooting? Regards to all Ross Don Palomaki September 19th, 2002, 06:24 AM Rated battery life of the MKE300 is about 200 hours with LR44 battery per the specification sheet. This appears to be a USA product because it is not on the German Sennheiser web page. Note that it has a rapid low frequency roll off starting around 200 Hz. Jeff Donald September 19th, 2002, 08:28 AM The LR44 is an alkaline battery. The MS76 (PX76 different numbers, but same battery from different mfg.) is a silver battery and usually lasts longer. A 357 (exact same battery as MS76) battery is also silver and is used in hearing aids. These can be found for much less money than what camera stores sell the 76 for. Jeff Ross Milligan September 19th, 2002, 10:02 AM <<<-- Originally posted by Don Palomaki : Note that it has a rapid low frequency roll off starting around 200 Hz. -->>> If you say so boss - but what does it mean?? Sorry but audio is not my forte. Ross Ralph Keyser September 19th, 2002, 12:40 PM It just means that the MKE300 isn't terribly good at recording low frequency sounds. Most of the time, this is a good thing since it helps reduce low frequency rumbles (AC units, trucks passing outside, etc.) on your audio track. On the otherhand, if you want decent recordings of something with a lot of low frequency info in it, you may need to find another microphone to record it with. Hope that helps. Ross Milligan September 20th, 2002, 01:57 AM Thanks Ralph, I understand now. Regards Ross Bob Zimmerman October 14th, 2002, 11:02 AM I'm going to buy another extra battery for my XL1-s. Do most of you buy only Canon batteries or will you buy a off brand? Where do you buy them from? Thanks for the help Nathan Gifford October 14th, 2002, 11:27 AM Try this string. A number of people are using the Lenmar battery with good results. http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?threadid=622 Dylan Couper October 14th, 2002, 12:32 PM I bought off brands off Ebay. I'm happy with the price and results. Dirk Goris October 16th, 2002, 02:12 AM Can you tell me which off brand you bought at ebay? Ebay Germany has also 945 type batteries for sale. Dylan Couper October 17th, 2002, 11:50 PM Not sure. They just say "Fits Canon" on them. I threw out the boxes so I can't check. I don't remember a name off them. Aaron Koolen October 18th, 2002, 11:44 PM Anyone tried the pwoer-2000 version of the BP-945? Ken Tanaka October 19th, 2002, 12:06 AM Yes, Aaron. I have several Power 2000 batteries. Their specs and actual performance make them the best available BP-945 - class batteries in my experience. Aaron Koolen October 30th, 2002, 01:49 AM Ok, revisiting this thread. I'm want to buy the Power-2000 battery, just wanted to know if it is charegable with the default Xm2 battery charger? Cheers Aaron Ken Tanaka October 30th, 2002, 10:52 AM Yes, it is. Aaron Koolen October 30th, 2002, 09:24 PM Ok, this may sound silly...but are the attachments for the batteries like the power-2000 and BP-945 identical from say an XM2 to a GL2? Will either battery fit on either spec camera? It would be idiotic to have them different, but you know how product design works sometimes and I want to make sure before I order from the U.S. Cheers Ken Tanaka October 30th, 2002, 09:37 PM Aaron, The Power 2000 battery is physically and functionally compatible with the BP-945 in absolutely every manner and either battery will run either camera. The Power 2000 just packs a significantly longer-lasting charge than the BP. Jan De Wever January 15th, 2003, 03:30 PM Hi guys, I'm currently looking at an Anton Bauer battery set for my XL1. Why? Because these are batteries that are barely depletable, and you can attach and feed one of their camera lights from them, at the same time as the camera. Has any of you ever used them? I can't find info on the Watchdog. Some user experience would be appreciated. Thanks, Kevin Burnfield January 15th, 2003, 03:34 PM I need to pick up some extra batteries for my XL1S and was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for or against any brand or types. See a number of them out there other then the standard (and more expensive) Canon brand and was figured someone here had to have some experiences. TIA Chris Hurd January 15th, 2003, 03:36 PM I'm using a couple of Lenmar batteries; from our sponsor Pro-Tape (see www.dvinfo.net/sponsors) Jeff Donald January 15th, 2003, 05:10 PM I also use Lenmar Batteries http://www.lenmar.com/ and their Mach 1 Fast Charger. I've been very pleased with their performance. Jeff Ken Tanaka January 15th, 2003, 05:26 PM The Lenmars have a great reputation. (Jeff link is busted: try http://www.lenmar.com/) Alternatively, I've been using Power-2000 BP-945-equivalents for nearly 2 years. Very long-lasting (much longer that the Canon brand), no apparent memory problems or significant capacity dissipation over time. They charge from the standard Canon BP chargers. Rob Lohman January 15th, 2003, 05:50 PM Welcome aboard Jan! I think this might be what you are looking for (although I'm not 100% sure): http://www.aspenelectronics.com/aspen_products/specialized/xl7a.htm I did a search (using the search feature off this board) and found this thread where the above URL came from: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2407&highlight=Bauer Hope this will help you some, and hi from your "neighbour"! Rob Lohman January 16th, 2003, 04:33 AM Somehow that top link seems not to be working anymore (it returns a 404 not found now), which is weird. You could go to their main site and contact them regarding such an adapter though. I could not find the adapter when browsing through their catalog either. Perhaps it has been discontinued. Good luck. Dylan Couper January 16th, 2003, 12:08 PM The link works for me. You aren't using one of those "Mac" things, are you? Rob Lohman January 16th, 2003, 05:07 PM No Mac for me... Only PC! Still not working here somehow. This is very strange! Jan De Wever January 16th, 2003, 05:25 PM Same here. That Aspen link doesn't show anything. Oh well, I found some user stories. Still strange Chris doesn't have any on the site itself. Alex Dolgin January 20th, 2003, 09:55 AM Just FYI, we offer both the Shoulder Brace designed specifically for the AB batteries, and a stand alone DC Converter with the industery standard XLR input, Canon DC plug output. http://www.dolgin.net/PowerBrace_Gold.htm http://www.dolgin.net/DCConverter.htm While the converter LEDs normally indicate the 12V levels, they can be set to 14.4V levels per request (no charge) Alex Dolgin Dolgin Engineering Rob Lohman January 20th, 2003, 05:28 PM Thanks for the heads up on that Alex! Kevin Burnfield January 21st, 2003, 12:52 PM Thanks for the tips guys, especially the recommendation for the Power-2000 ones (which are also advertised as from VidPro it seems). I've seen them around but am always leery of "never heard of them" brands even at good prices but I just picked a couple of them up. Thx. Christopher Hughes January 21st, 2003, 04:39 PM Any Brits in here know a good places or websites to buy cheap [but not cheap and nasty] batteries for the XL1s??? |