Frank, have you tried replacing the little hearing-aid style backup battery located under the panel on the camera's right side, in front of the tape transport chassis? This might be your problem. The battery type is a Panasonic CR2025 and it is not expensive, in the U.S. you can find them for under one dollar each, surely the price is just as reasonable in Athens. Try that, and see if it clears up this problem...?

FWIW: I've observed that the life of the back-up battery is onthe order of 1 to 2 years depending on how fresh the replacement battery was.

I can not find anywhere the Canon Product of the 945 battery. For some reason everywhere I look genaric batteries have taken over. Does no one sell canon batteries anymore ?

Any help would be great as I need two batteries for two weeks away...

B&H photo has them listed in their catalog, page 221.

I've been running the generic batteries, no problems so far, work just as the real BP-945s, and a lot less expensive. Batteries are mostly just that, batteries. Brand names don't power your equipment, electrons do.

Thanks for the feed back guys.

I've been running the generic batteries, no problems so far, work just as the real BP-945s, and a lot less expensive. Batteries are mostly just that, batteries. Brand names don't power your equipment, electrons do.

Gotta agree! I'm using generics bought off ebay with great success! (Four generics cost me roughly the same as one "Canon" battery.) But, yeah, if you really want the Canon brand name, I'd start with B&H.

I've got a couple of generics from different places. The cases on two of them split where they are attached to the 'face' and I had to super glue it back together. So there's probably some build quality issues in the lower priced brands.

Ok so what about the Miah???
The stock canons are 4500miah and the generic range from 5000 to 7000miah.
Which models are you guys using with no problems?

By miah, do you mean the mAh rating? You know that it stands for milliamps per hour right? The easist way to think of it is that a 4500 mAh battery can also be called a 4.5 Ah (Amp/hour) battery. It has a 4500 milliamp capacity, while a 7000 mAh battery has a 7000 milliamp capacity. In this case, the 7000 should give you longer service per charge than the 4500.

To answer your question another way, I don't know the "model", that's why I call it generic. I assume the batteries I'm using are all from different manufacturers since I got them from different vendors. (as always, I could be wrong) I look at what the sellers call "same as BP-945", then I look to see if the mAh rating is roughly the same or better than the original Canon battery. Personally, I don't trust the generic's ratings, just that it was intended to be an equivalent battery.

I hope I was helpful and not confusing.

Oh, and BTW, I keep many spares handy "just in case"!

Good luck!

Mark

I am just checking to see if a 7000mah will be safe to use over the long run.
I know my small handy cam does not like generic batteries when the mah does not match the sony batteries which are very expensive. so I am hesitant to buy generic batteries for my XL1S.

I am going with one of each..one canon and one generic.
How long of a shoot do you get with a bp-945???
I was filming a sled race outdoors at -30c this weekend and my extended life 945 wasn't performing too good. I was hoping to get more than an hour of shooting from 3 batteries???? :)

I got a 5 hour battery from http://www.ebatts.com, it's been working great for me for a year!

This one: http://www.ebatts.com/canon_xl1s_camcorder_batteries_part_b-9534.aspx

I am just checking to see if a 7000mah will be safe to use over the long run.
I know my small handy cam does not like generic batteries when the mah does not match the sony batteries which are very expensive. so I am hesitant to buy generic batteries for my XL1S.

I am going with one of each..one canon and one generic.
How long of a shoot do you get with a bp-945???
I was filming a sled race outdoors at -30c this weekend and my extended life 945 wasn't performing too good. I was hoping to get more than an hour of shooting from 3 batteries???? :)


"I am just checking to see if a 7000mah will be safe to use over the long run."

Well, I see absoultely no safety issue. The 7000 mAh battery will simply have more power available to the camera than a 4500 mAh battery. That's all, period. As for shooting outdoors in -30 temps, then the temperature you were in was probably the cause of the battery's short life, not the brand you used. If the cold temps are normal for your shooting conditions, I'd say you need to pack more batteries and anticipate shorter life between charges.

"How long of a shoot do you get with a bp-945???"

It all depends on the camera, how you use it, and the environmental conditions. In my side by side comparison, my GL-1 gets a lot more use out of a battery than my GL-2. Most likely, the XL series will get usage similar to the GL-2. I know it's not the definitive answer you're looking for, but even my personal battery use times vary constantly. I get more life from batteries at some shoots than at others.

The battery that Cole references above may work just fine, but the generics I get off of e-bay are $25.00 with shipping. It's a good risk for me, and I've been satisfied with all of my generics. If anyone would like the info on the dealer I bought from, e-mail me and I'll share it with you.

Mark

I'm not sure specifically about the XL1, but page 15 of the manual for the XL2 has a table for battery life. The typical recording time with the 20x lens and color viewfinder for the BP-945 is 135 min. I use the manual 16x lens, but I have the fu-1000 viewfinder.,,, TRT is 115 mins per the tables recommendation. That seems about right for my generic batts.

IF you really need extended time, I suggest investing in the ch-910 batt charger. That way you put two batts on to shoot. Figure a good two to three hours shooting easy... and you can change one batt while the other one is being used.

I know my small handy cam does not like generic batteries when the mah does not match the sony batteries which are very expensive. so I am hesitant to buy generic batteries for my XL1S.


Canon and Sony batteries are 2 different animals. Sony has a build in smart circuit that talks to the camera using their proprietary "InfoLithium" protocol, which they periodically change. Because of that, the generics are not always accepted by the Sony cameras. Once they change their protocol, the battery is rejected as foreign.
Canon does not have this limitation. Any battery that makes a connection through (+) and (-) contacts, is accepted.
Many generics overstate their actual charge capacity by a huge number. The only one I am familiar with that tests to the same number as claimed, is Lenmar.

I am about to begin work on a project and it has been approved in the budget to purchase a couple new batteries ($200 budgeted), I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on batteries to use in a Canon XL1s unit that would stay within the budget (less than if possible), but will still provide a good amount of shooting time. The "official" cannon batteries seem pretty high priced.

I've been using generics for a few years in my GL cameras, with great results. The BP-945 equivalents cost about $25 each, including shipping. If you'd like details, e-mail me.

Mark

Third party really hasn't let me down. I got an 8 hour battery on ebay for $35. It really only lasts about 7 hours, but that's fine with me.

In my experience with generics is they will work great for a while, but after about a year or so, they decline. Some of the one's I've bought aren't usable after a year.

As for OEM's....I still have the original battery that came with my XL1 in 2000, and it still works great. So you do get what you pay for...but if short term (and $$$$) is your concern, the generics will get the job done. They're all over ebay for around $25.

Thanks to everyone for the feedback. I was worried about buying third party/generic because of the drastic price difference between the Canon batteries and these, but since everyone seems to agree that the generics seem to get the job done, I am looking at a third party/generic battery on amazon that is $17.95 before shipping. Going with something this far below my budgeted price range will even allow me to buy 1 more than planned as a backup and still be under budget.

The battery: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000G6U4O0/ref=ord_cart_shr?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=A2JDMO6KD2GDJR&v=glance

I've had good luck with Lenmar LIC941s with my XL1 and Gl1, and am using the LIC950s with my XH-A1. Are they as good as a Canon? Maybe not (e.g., maybe last 4 years instead of five, and have had one replaced under warranty), but I'd say they are close enough for folk music or government work.

I bought a 5 hour battery 3 years ago from www.ebatts.com and it still works like a champ. I have no problem recommending them to you, even with the cheesy sounding name.

ah ha nice job sliding one in Don.
Is anyone using a battery belt pack with the XL1(s)?

Just a thought. Considering the runtime available from a camera-mounted battery (typically more than a full tape for most users/uses), unless you are powering a light or similar power hog, there is arguably not much advantage to a belt power pack, except maybe for the additional exercise value and the practice you get managing more wire/cable. My two cents, but everyone's situation is a bit different.

What is the brand and model number of the battery belt pack? I am looking to purchase one, and have not found anything that sticks out as compatible with my XL1s. What do I look for when looking for a belt pack? Is there some fancy adapter?

is it bad to use standard sony mini dv tapes in a canon xl1 ? if so what tapes should i be using ?

Dave, you're posting a question about tapes in a discussion thread that has batteries as its topic. In short, you're looking in the wrong locker, mate. Please check out our forum devoted entirely to tape: The Long Black Line at http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/forumdisplay.php?f=64 -- use the search tool there to locate the term "XL1" and you'll be rewarded with dozens of relevant threads. Hope this helps,

Hi, I've lost the DC faceplate cable coming from the charger and wondering if I can make one. Let me explain, I was in Bangkok last month, for almost a month, looking for one and no one there could find it. Canon Thailand tried for 3 weeks from Singapore but could not find. I live in Nepal and they sure don't have one here and no one will actually mail one here anyway if they did (or if they did, the chances of it getting thru the mail service here is slim to none). SO, I think I could make one somehow using an extra battery ? Anyone else ever try this? I was thinking that I could run the lead out of the CA-920 compact power adapter to the pins on a battery faceplate if I could pry it off. But I don't know if there was anything as far as circuitry in the faceplate itself, is there? My guess is no, but I am just a hack...
thanks!!!!!

Sorry for this mundane question, but I need to know as quickly as possible:
Does the XL1 use the same batteries as the XL2...?

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YES straight through Xl1 XL1s, Gl1, Gl2 - all the same size as XL2

YES straight through Xl1 XL1s, Gl1, Gl2 - all the same size as XL2

Thank you Richard -- that was quick.

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For what it's worth, I was in Fry's in Palo Alto yesterday, buying a replacement batt for one I lost on a shoot two days ago. They have the Lenmars BP970s and the BP945's I think. Decent prices too.
The card says "Fits Gl1,GL2, XH A1, XHG1, XLH1, XL1, XL1s, XL2,XM1,XM2,Xv1,XV2"

Be aware that some batteries may be a tight fit in the XH-series because the cases are just a wee bit oversized. I've observed this ith the Lenmar LIC-941s.