View Full Version : Canon GL2 and Premiere Pro
John DeLuca September 15th, 2004, 06:22 PM *****Does the camera need to be on or off when I start the program, I don't know...******
Here is where the software does get flakey......Bring up pro, then turn the camera on....wait a few mins, and then bring up the capture.
John DeLuca September 15th, 2004, 06:25 PM Have you set your device control options in the capture window? Capture settings?
Brian Neuls September 15th, 2004, 07:04 PM -I set all the settings, I went into capture settings, I'll try starting Premiere Pro and then turning on the camera and I'll see how the scenalyzer live works and we'll go from there. Thanks again for all the posts and I'll keep everyone posted.
John DeLuca September 15th, 2004, 09:09 PM This goes without saying, but when capture comes up and you hit play, give it a second or so to roll, then hit the record button. Let us know
John
Lloyd Coleman September 15th, 2004, 10:22 PM Miguel,
Sorry to hijack this post, but another question about Scenalyzer. Are you saying that it will add a pre roll and post roll to each the scene without backing the tape up? I am using PPro with no pre or post roll and it captures 1 hour of tape in 1 hour. No stopping or rewinding.
Thank you.
Jeremy Davidson September 16th, 2004, 10:54 AM Admittedly I'm using a little different setup than you are, but it may be worth trying. My experience is that I have to have the camera on before even starting Premiere, and I must leave it on until I close the program. If I turn the camera off before closing Premiere I will get a blue screen error next time I turn it on (regardless of whether or not Premiere is running anymore). I have to restart to get the camera working again. It's weird, but so far I've been OK as long as I keep the camera on the whole time Premiere is running.
If I don't want to use the camera at all during a Premiere session, it's OK to leave it off. The point is I can't turn it on or off while Premiere is running.
I'm capturing GL2 footage using a Canon Optura miniDV cam with Premiere 6.0 on Win98SE -- like I said, a different setup than you are using.
The only time I can recall having trouble with a capture was when I tried to capture DVCAM footage from a Sony PD150 using my Optura (which only supports DV SP or LP). It couldn't understand how to play the tape at the faster DVCAM speed. From your post I'm guessing you're capturing footage taken by a GL2 using a GL2, so this wouldn't apply.
Also, the broken timecode issue will cause problems with Batch Capture, but I believe a Manual Capture is still OK -- it simply won't store any frames while there's no timecode (however, Premiere will timeout if it can't get any timecode for a few seconds).
When you're capturing/previewing, can you see a timecode counter in the capture window? If not, the timecode is simply not getting through to the computer. Could this have anything to do with the remote device control capabilities of the GL2? I've never used them, so hopefully someone more knowledgeable can confirm/deny this possibility.
Anyway, 'just my experience with Premiere.
Miguel Lombana September 16th, 2004, 01:17 PM Lloyd when I used PremPro with my GL and with my JVC dual deck it kept shuttling the tape back to get a pre-roll, may have been my setup or a setting in Premier that I didn't check. Either way, SceneLive just plays the tape and creates a new .AVI file on each timecode break.
Let me know what settings you used on PPro to get a constant feed without shuttles. Either way I can't use it as I run a Canopus system and I need to capture in their format or I have to convert every file from Premier to Canopus via a 3rd party utility, then I have double the .AVI files (1 Adobe & 1 Canopus) poluting the drive and stealing space which on some projects I can't afford.
Also Canopus doesn't support the PPro capture in their plug-in (YET).
Miguel
<<<-- Originally posted by Lloyd Coleman : Miguel,
Sorry to hijack this post, but another question about Scenalyzer. Are you saying that it will add a pre roll and post roll to each the scene without backing the tape up? I am using PPro with no pre or post roll and it captures 1 hour of tape in 1 hour. No stopping or rewinding.
Thank you. -->>>
Brian Neuls September 16th, 2004, 07:24 PM I'm not trying anymore-
Scenalyzer is the bomb, it works awesomely, and so I'm going to go with that. Thanks again all for the great replies and for turning me onto Scenalyzer.
Andre Chapdelaine February 21st, 2005, 09:53 AM I have some footage on a VHS that I want to use in FinalCutPro.
How do you record from your vhs to the GL1's tape if the GL1 does not support analog to digital? I dont find my user manual so your help would be appréciated.
André
K. Forman February 21st, 2005, 10:29 AM Andre- You can go to the Canon website, and download a copy of your manual... free ;)
Joe Mobic March 10th, 2005, 03:49 PM I have Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 and the GL2
I'd like to make a short movie and make it look film-like
Which mode should I shoot it in (Frame or Normal)?
Jimmy McKenzie March 10th, 2005, 03:54 PM Test both uner the lighting conditions that will represent your scene(s).
Then compare. The lower resolution of Canon frame mode has now been superseded by the 24p of the XL2.
But since you are using the GL2, check your result on the playback device you will be using for your show. A bit of motion blur but similar dof will be the result.
You will also find many threads (most over a year old) on this topic if you do a search here.
Trond Saetre April 22nd, 2006, 12:03 PM I just wanted to share this.
I am using the Canon XM2. After upgrading from Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 to 2.0, I am now able to capture directly to the harddrive from the XM2 without having a tape in the camera.
I do it with the regular capture function of Premiere.
No need for any additional software. But I noticed that the camera had to be on before I start Premiere.
Graham Bernard April 22nd, 2006, 01:54 PM You can also do it with SonyVegas. Now try the free MS MovieMaker and get back to us? - Yeah?
Grazie
Trond Saetre April 22nd, 2006, 03:05 PM I'll leave the movie maker to someone else.
Don't have that one on my computer.
Nice to see that it works with Vegas also.
Ian Stark April 27th, 2006, 07:26 AM You'll probably yell at me for stating the obvious but if you're shooting something important, I'd be inclined to keep a tape in the cam as well!
Those firewire connectors easily come loose, at the camera end in particular, and you wouldn't want that happening in the middle of your one-chance-only shot!
Trond Saetre April 27th, 2006, 07:42 AM Ian, I totally agree with you.
And especially for a paid shot, I would always record to tape.
Dale Guthormsen April 28th, 2006, 11:14 PM This is great news and thank you so much for sharing it.
I have been considering getting a firestore 4 but have vasillated between that and a lap top.
What do you think???
Ian Stark April 29th, 2006, 01:51 AM Firestore = much more convenient when running around shooting - ie you can attach it to the camera or tripod with ease.
Laptop = you can use DV-Rack! Wonderful tool, IMO. However, the biggest issue is using it conveniently in the field. Would you be happy carrying around another platform/tripod for the laptop? Or would you be happy putting the laptop on the floor etc? I use a laptop with DV-Rack and it is most convenient to use in, say, interview situations. But when I'm running around a warehouse shooting different aspects of operations for a corporate video, with limited time for setting up etc, the laptop becomes a problem.
Oh, to have both . . .
. . . and I'd still record to tape to be safe!
Nelson Cardoso November 22nd, 2006, 08:19 PM Is it possible to get that nice film look in just plain premiere pro 1.5? I don't want to shoot in frame mode anymore, but I want to keep the film look. Magic bullet is outside of my budget. Thoughts?
Thanks
Nelson Cardoso
Dale Guthormsen November 22nd, 2006, 09:59 PM Nelson,
There is a two part article in the article section on this list.
Why would you not want to shoot in Frame?
Most shoting filmicly tend to use a camera with 24 or 25 frames a second.
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