View Full Version : Super 16mm or HDV JVC Brazilian feature, any DOP out there?!?
Christopher C. Murphy July 3rd, 2004, 07:59 AM Cool...and just another quick thought, but maybe you can pitch a "Contest" to Moviemaker for a 3 minute "HD Short Film" or anything HD that's 3 minutes or less? The next generation low-budget filmmaker using the latest tools available. Any HDV or HD camera can be used...any type of genre piece you want to make. (no NTSC DV cameras allowed, this is HD and HDV only - our new community!)
It would be cool to have our online DVinfo community be judges. I'd definately do a 3 minute piece for it...we can all whip something up, I'm sure!
The winner gets mentioned in Moviemaker with a Heath McKnight interview? Also, maybe a Robert Rodriguez "10 Minute HD Film School" interview woven in there somehow? I doubt he has time to get involved in a contest, but that would be nice too.
Just a thought!
Murph
Heath McKnight July 3rd, 2004, 08:02 AM I don't think they do contests, sorry. Computer Videomaker and others do, however.
heath
Richard Alvarez July 3rd, 2004, 12:09 PM Rodriguez doesn't live "in" Austin. He lives in a suburb of Austin.
Juan M. M. Fiebelkorn July 8th, 2004, 06:02 PM Go to http://www.hdargentina.com/
They are in Buenos Aires.They have worked in Mexico, Paraguay, Uruguay, Peru, Chile, Espaņa.They give you a complete package from camera to NLE, color timing,etc.After this you could transfer your film at Cinecolor Brasil.They work sometimes with them.
They use HDCAM.
Daniel Moloko July 27th, 2004, 07:58 PM les dit,
can you tell me if its possible to do a 30p HD10U Footage conversion to 35mm with the CELCO firestorm film print?
http://www.celco.com/Firestorm.asp
or only with the Arrilaser?
can you tell me your email adress?
ciao
Les Dit July 27th, 2004, 08:05 PM All film recorders can only do one thing: Put an image on the film. It's up to the preparation process to determine how many frames per second gets translated. ( 30 --> 24 , etc )
I can be mailed at lesdit
at gmail point com
-Les
<<<-- Originally posted by Daniel Moloko : les dit,
can you tell me if its possible to do a 30p HD10U Footage conversion to 35mm with the CELCO firestorm film print?
http://www.celco.com/Firestorm.asp
or only with the Arrilaser?
can you tell me your email adress?
ciao -->>>
Heath McKnight July 27th, 2004, 08:30 PM If possible, can we keep this on the boards to help educate others?
Thanks,
heath
Morgan Preston August 9th, 2004, 08:35 PM Wouldn't it be simple to render at 720p60 and then convert to 35mm. From what I understand 60 fps blows up to 35 mm beautifully. I have HD footage at 720p60 that looks beautiful. Maybe I'm off base here...but I have been experimenting for these exact reasons(worry over blow up) as we have a feature we want to film starting in october and we have the same fears. We own the 16mm Arriflex BL and are trying to decide now what to film on.
Les Dit August 9th, 2004, 11:12 PM That gets you the same place as I did, equivalent to a frame blend of 30P.
If your source is 30 images a second, making 60 or 200 FPS out of it and then going back to 24 for film is the same.
I think it looks pretty good. See the example I posted somewhere in an earlier post, of 30 to 24 .
-Les
<<<-- Originally posted by Morgan Preston : Wouldn't it be simple to render at 720p60 and then convert to 35mm. From what I understand 60 fps blows up to 35 mm beautifully. I have HD footage at 720p60 that looks beautiful. Maybe I'm off base here...but I have been experimenting for these exact reasons(worry over blow up) as we have a feature we want to film starting in october and we have the same fears. We own the 16mm Arriflex BL and are trying to decide now what to film on. -->>>
Ken Hodson August 10th, 2004, 07:04 PM We also have to remember as good as Les's demo clip is, there are dedicated software packages (Algolith and Twixtor) that claim to far exceed the stock After Effects conversion. As Les also points out, you can achieve even better results when you aren't shooting hand held. How the shot is composed, with camera movement taken into consideration will greatly impact the final product.
Shooting in 60p mode for intense action scenes might be recommended. Up res and incorporate back into the 24p project.
The potential of what this cam can do is still to be seen.
Greg Alsbury August 10th, 2004, 07:37 PM I've noticed that Costco is really pushing HDTV sets now, too. They don't continue to carry anything unless it's really selling well.
I'm preparing to shoot a narrative doc. Although there's a tiny chance that it might get a theatrical release, it's statistically highly unlikely. Docs have a pretty good shelf life if they're informational and the topic is a perennial one.
The nature of business is that it takes five to ten years to reach profitability, and that's if it's the one in ten that succeeds. I think of my doc as if it's a mini business. Which means that maybe, with constant guerilla marketing, I might turn a profit on it in five years. It seems that HD will be fairly ubiquitous by then.
The foregoing logic leads me to the conclusion that it's best to shoot HD, even if all I can afford is the HD10. If my film (my first feature length production) is so good that someone wants to do a theatrical run, then someone else would probably consider me a good enough investment to properly fund my second feature, which I would shoot on 35 with ends, etc. Essentially, this doc would thus be serving as my grad thesis film, a portfolio piece. Rarely do those get a theatrical run. But they do launch plenty of careers.
I'm open to having my math blasted to pieces, though.
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