Here's the first wedding highlight vignette I've ever posted. Shot w/ PD-170, VX2100 (and a few shots with XL-1s and TRV33..lol)
Cut in Vegas 5.


http://home.comcast.net/~g.elliott3//Genna_Highlight_Vignette.wmv

WOW!!!

That was awesome. Really very touching. Some beautiful shots and nice editing. Man, I have to work on mine this winter. How do you like Vegas?

Wow indeed. Very nice work!
Were you the only cameraman during that day and how many camera was being used?
Did you only use Vegas software to come up with the video?
(learning process :D )

Joe, love Vegas- been using it for a little over a year now. I'm a Premiere convert.

Kevin, I shot it along side of an assistant. So the entire day we had two cameras rolling, however during the bridal prep (which I've included a few shots in the peice) I shot solo. However during the ceremony I shot with my PD-170, my assistant with his XL-1s, a VX2100 up in the balcony, and a little cheap single-CCD TRV-33 on the floor in the isle, just for kicks. So a total of 4-cameras at the ceremony.

The shots in this peice were 99% PD-170, and one or two XL-1s and TRV-33.

Thanks.

Wow man, way to go, I thought that looked great.

You might just give Randy Stubbs a run for his money on WEVA CE awards if you keep that up. One question. How do you do such a clean white flash effect? I have tried to build that effect but it always eludes me!

NICE JOB.

Kev

<<<-- Originally posted by Kevin Foristal : You might just give Randy Stubbs a run for his money on WEVA CE awards if you keep that up. One question. How do you do such a clean white flash effect? I have tried to build that effect but it always eludes me!

NICE JOB.

Kev -->>>

You know it's funny you mention that- I've been talking to Randy via email corespondence for the last few weeks now. Very nice guy. He's even been so nice as to critique my work. Needless to say compliments from "him" are VERY encoraging. I was thinking about picking up his training series on DVD. Ever seen it? Anything to be learned from it?

Anyway about the flash effect, there are actually two styles I use. A quick dissolve from a generated media (solid white) and a transition in my NLE (Vegas 5) called "Flash"...using the "soft white" preset.

Thanks for the words.

Glen,

I am in awe of your work. That was beautiful stuff. I really picked up on your use of a slow fade to black then quick fade up on some of the transitions. Really liked that effect.

Thanks for sharing. It's inspiring to me.

-gb-

I am thinking about picking up randy's dvd's. My business should be ready to go live in about 2 months. I have a site at www.foristalmedia.com and a clip in the gallery section. Let me know what ya think.

Kev

<<<-- Originally posted by Kevin Foristal : I am thinking about picking up randy's dvd's. My business should be ready to go live in about 2 months. I have a site at www.foristalmedia.com and a clip in the gallery section. Let me know what ya think.

Kev -->>>

Just shot you an email Kevin.

Glen,

What an awesome job you had done... your video will definitly redefine the way people see and do wedding video.

I have a few questions that hope you could kindly answer them:

1) There are a few clips that have rotating effect... did you do that in post? I found that if I have to do it in post, I will need to scale up the image and that result in resolution lost.

2) Did you do a lot of color correction? To me, the color looks really film like.

3) How do you compare the slow motion between vegas and premiere? I found that I can never do such smooth slow motion in premiere like you did in your video.

4) There are a few clips that the whole picture is black and white with some color objects. How did you do it? Did you replace the color of the clip or mask out the objects in post?

Hope you could share some of your experience with us...

Thanks in advance,
Eric

<<<-- Originally posted by Eric Chan : Glen,

What an awesome job you had done... your video will definitly redefine the way people see and do wedding video.
Why thank you...

I have a few questions that hope you could kindly answer them:

1) There are a few clips that have rotating effect... did you do that in post? I found that if I have to do it in post, I will need to scale up the image and that result in resolution lost.
Depends on the shot- some of them are hand-held rolls (dutches) and the more static shots I added a subtle motion using Vegas's Pan/Crop tool. A tool that, even alone, is much more powerful than Canopus Imaginate.

2) Did you do a lot of color correction? To me, the color looks really film like.
Not too much- the PD-170 creates a really desirable image. The film "look" might be because of the crop and the soft vignette I added in post.

3) How do you compare the slow motion between vegas and premiere? I found that I can never do such smooth slow motion in premiere like you did in your video.
Most definitly, hands down, Vegas. Vegas has the best interpolating engine for slow motion. I've even heard people say it beats Final Cut Pro's when going below 25% speed.

4) There are a few clips that the whole picture is black and white with some color objects. How did you do it? Did you replace the color of the clip or mask out the objects in post?
Vegas's "Secondary Color Corrector"...simply drag and create a selection then reverse the selection and drop the saturation.

Hope you could share some of your experience with us...
No prob...any time. Any other questions feel free to ask. Take care.

Thanks in advance,
Eric -->>>

Glen, i really liek your style and demeaner.
Your work is absolutely incredible and i wish you all the best for your future projects.

There are many disbelievers of Vegas, however Im one of the few here in Oz that is tryin to push for it to be the definitive software solution for editing (which it is)

good luck with everything mate

<<<-- Originally posted by Peter Jefferson : Glen, i really liek your style and demeaner.
Your work is absolutely incredible and i wish you all the best for your future projects.

There are many disbelievers of Vegas, however Im one of the few here in Oz that is tryin to push for it to be the definitive software solution for editing (which it is)

good luck with everything mate -->>>


Thank you Peter. I'm going to do my best to sing the praises of this fine program to the GPVA. Maybe I'll even "convert" a few once I show them the light. lol

Looks really nice.

I'm not involved in the wedding market, so I'm just curious, is this song, vinette treatment and overall progression a common demo practice?

I'm certain that, about a year ago, I viewed a demo that looked very similar (had a little more variety and creativity in the shots, but the effects treamtent was about the same) and it also used exactly the same music.

I think it was demo by a guy named Christopher McGuiness ??

I can't seem to find a website to confirm.
Maybe I have the name wrong.
I still have the video on my computer at home somewhere, so I'll try to dig it up for comparisson.

Anyway, I'm just curious about how "standard" something like this is.

Again, really really nice work in there.

<<<-- Originally posted by Nick Jushchyshyn : Looks really nice.

I'm not involved in the wedding market, so I'm just curious, is this song, vinette treatment and overall progression a common demo practice?

I'm certain that, about a year ago, I viewed a demo that looked very similar (had a little more variety and creativity in the shots, but the effects treamtent was about the same) and it also used exactly the same music.

I think it was demo by a guy named Christopher McGuiness ??

I can't seem to find a website to confirm.
Maybe I have the name wrong.
I still have the video on my computer at home somewhere, so I'll try to dig it up for comparisson.

Anyway, I'm just curious about how "standard" something like this is.

Again, really really nice work in there. -->>>


Nick, YES Christopher Mcguinnes's 2003 Demo was my driving inspiration for this piece. I'm a huge fan of Chris's work- easily my favorite videographer next to Joel Perigrine. Not sure if you've seen his work. Anyway Chris's page "was" www.cmvideography.com ...which is now defunct. He moved to LA a few months back. He's subsequently out of the wedding videography business and now shooting for an assistaint editors job on an unnamed popular television show.

I watch a lot of videographer's work I admire and try to learn various aspects for each. I feel in order to grow as a videographer you must expose yourself to as many other works as possible.

The song is definitly a great one- and just a week after I posted this clip in another forum I frequent- another videographer has posted a piece cut to the same song. It's completly fine though I think us as videographers has much to share with each other- whether it be musical choices or shooting/editing styles.

Thank you.

Very cool. I know if I ever get into wedding work, I'd be happy if my work were half as good as his.
You're demo very very very close! Great job!!!

Bummer about him moving into editing for TV.
Hope he's enjoying it and all, but his wedding demo alone was a pure work of art. I can only imagine how good his complete packages were.

I did find it and uploaded it to my server:
Chris's Wedding Demo (21 Meg MOV) (http://www.jushhome.com/nick/media/cmdemo.mov)

My wife keeps pushing me to get into wedding work but there just hasn't been enough time. It's one of those areas I think you really need to be devoted to get right. You're obviously doing a great job. If I ever do start to branch out that way, I'll be sure to stop into a GPVA meeting and keep an eye out for you. :)

Have fun.

Have you seen his 2004 Demo.....WOW. He outdid himself...if you can believe that- it was cut to a track from the Last Samurai.

It was his 2003 demo that litterally woke me up to realize what CAN be done with wedding videography. In other words it upped my standards.

I never saw the more recent demo.
I'd love to see it though.
If you couldn't host it somewhere, we could exchange emails and perhaps I could mail you a blank CD to burn it to? (Along with some of youre own work too.)

We're actually pretty close to each other (I used to be in a band that played gigs in Lindenwold! Man, those were the days)
I'm closer to Montgomeryville PA these days.

I've also never seen any of Perigrine's stuff. Would be cool to see what it's all about.

I know I won't be getting into weddings anytime soon, but I'm really interested in how several of you guys manage to enhance and present so many subtle moments and end up with a truely emotional piece of work. There are so many cookie-cutter outfits out there that have (for better or worse) turned weddings into an "industry" but I think that there are things that any story teller can learn from people such as yourself, McGuiness and a few others that approach this with dedication as an art form.

Best regards,
- Nick Jushchyshyn

Well I appreciate even being mentioned in the same sentence as McGuiness- but I'm far from worthy. I look up to Chris and Joel a great deal- and if I'm even half as good as them someday I'll be a happy man.

I know what you mean about the cookie cutter outfits....those are the ones that give wedding videography a bad name- and make most brides either 1.Feel they can do without it or..2.Feel it should cost substancially LESS than photography. All the while I'll put 60+ hours into a single video. Thus I'm going to continue to raise my prices until either people stop booking or I land around where I think my time and effort are worth.

If you'd like to see Joel's work shoot me an email and I'll link you to his site. I don't want to post it here and kill his bandwidth.

Lastly, yes, I'm actually VERY close to Lindenwold...maybe 20 minutes. Oh and if you'd like to see more of my work- I posted a bunch of clips here:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32327

Glen,
That was awsome I just watched your work. I was very impressed. I was wondering about the flash effect. I would like to do the flash effect. I don't use Vegas, I use Premiere. Can you give any guidence on how to aquire this effect?

I'm sorry I have no idea how to recreate that effect in Premiere. Maybe keyframe a color curves filter and blow out the highlights...dissolve to a new clip with the end setting on the filter of the first clip (blown out) back down to normal (again using key frames).

Thanks for the reply Glen. Once again good job.

What music is that in Chris's Video, its beautiful... Im in awe over his work. Its truly amazing what people can do with video and a creative mind like his.


Steve

Hi Glenn,

Credit where credit is due and I've got to tell you that that was quality work! It's so refreshing to see a wedding videographer producing work that puts to shame the majority of wedding guys churning out the same old, tired home videos.

Excellent shot compostion, nice movement, masterful editing with subtle effects... You deserve every last dollar you earn and thanks for sharing your talent with us.

Best of luck to you.

Maurice

Maurice, how did you download this, the link doesn't work!

Thanks

edit: I see we're talking about a different link to the first post - got it now.

Chris, I've just watched the excellent Genna Highlight Vignette2 - how long did that take to edit, and how many properly manned cameras did you have?

Thanks

Jon

Thanks Maurice and Jonathan.

The editing time logged on that piece including the time to sort through the footage meticulously approached the 10 hour mark.
I spent the first night sorting footage- the other 2 editing and filtering. I know that may seem a bit long- heck I know videographers that complete entire weddings under 20 hours. I treat every wedding like it's own movie. Many hours of personal care is taken in every project so total project times of 60+ hours are the norm.

I'm hoping this extra effort will be visible to potential clients- and they will see the value in what I produce. I hope to stand out above all the videographers in my area ...and be priced accordingly. I'm not at all interested in high volume sales and straight forward (quick-turn around) edits. I'd rather not be remembered for my price but rather for my style.

Thanks all for the encouraging comments- I draw inspiration from it.

Jonathan, this wedding was shot with 4 cameras during the ceremony (2 manned), and 2 cameras at the reception (2 manned).


Here's the links to the other clips I posted:

How I compile my dance footage throughout the night (Wedding Videography):
http://www.dv-help.com/g.elliott/Genna%20Dance%20Montage.mpg


This peice served as a Bridal Prep AND Intro to a recent project:
www.dv-help.com/g.elliott/Bridal_Prep_Intro.mpeg


This peice was used as an opening for a Nurses Day Ceremony at my day-job:
www.dv-help.com/g.elliott/HSA Opening Vignette.mpg


The hightlight vignette from my most recent project:
www.dv-help.com/g.elliott/Genna Highlight Vignette2.wmv

Thanks, it's interesting to be able to compare things like this to my own work, but I have to know what extra resources are available particluarly in terms of shots.

I think although your sequence was very edited, with well chosen shots I think the music had the real impact, and the editing works brilliantly with it - was this chosen by you or the customer (and is there any more of this kind of music anywhere?) It's very much like the main theme to Gladiator which is my favourite film.

Would you do highlights to more upbeat, faster music?

My highlights sequences are more like a reprise, and they have some audio (like the I dos). They have creativity yes, but I have a full time job too at the moment so I have learned when to stop!

I'll post a link when I have the nerve!

Jon

<<<-- Originally posted by Jonathan Nicholas :

I think although your sequence was very edited, with well chosen shots I think the music had the real impact, and the editing works brilliantly with it - was this chosen by you or the customer (and is there any more of this kind of music anywhere?) It's very much like the main theme to Gladiator which is my favourite film.
The music was my choice. Yeah "We Are Free"- Gladiator, is a great piece.

Would you do highlights to more upbeat, faster music?
Yes I don't have a preference when editing- I like faster paced edits as much as I do the slow dramatic ones.

My highlights sequences are more like a reprise, and they have some audio (like the I dos). They have creativity yes, but I have a full time job too at the moment so I have learned when to stop!
Hey I know what you mean- I work 40 hours a week at clerical job. If I had my entire day to edit I'd have more time to invest in my videography.

I'll post a link when I have the nerve!
Great- look forward to it.

Jon -->>>

<<<-- Originally posted by Glen Elliott : Here's the first wedding highlight vignette I've ever posted.
http://home.comcast.net/~g.elliott3//Genna_Highlight_Vignette.wmv -->>>

Glen,

I just now (Dec 23) caught this thread. Unfortunately, your link no longer works. Is there a new link? I hope so, you have received so many, many great reviews in this thread -- I'd love to see your work.

Thanks,
Pete

I only have space on my "Comcast" server for one or two clips at a time- so incidently I had to pull this to show other clips. I have a clip up now over at the Vegas forum. It's a little different than this one though...make that a LOT different.