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Marius Svendsen
September 4th, 2002, 01:11 PM
I was resently editing some footage Ive filmed and suddenly the program is not responding, but I had adjusted the settings so it should save every singel minutt.
As I think everything is ok I open my project and nothing is there. Just the clips which no longer have a name, just "-1".
Anyone know what this is/mean?

Jason Wood
September 4th, 2002, 01:22 PM
I haven't used Premiere in a while and I'm not sure if there is a solution but Premiere is notorious for losing files.

Kyle "Doc" Mitchell
September 4th, 2002, 10:09 PM
Hello:

This is just a suggestion, I have no practiced knowledge of doing this but: save your project files in a new folder, seperate of premiere. Then remove premiere and reinstall. This might help.

Regards,

Kyle "Doc" Mitchell

Rob Lohman
September 5th, 2002, 02:27 AM
I had a similar problem and wasn't able to fix it, other then
starting over again. What you might do is make a backup of
your project file and then opening it in a text editor (like notepad)
perhaps you can see yourself what is wrong.

I adopted a new policy for myself. I now save a new project
file after each editing session. So I get:

name project 20020823.prj
name project 20020824.prj
name project 20020827.prj

etc. This way I can always fall back on a earlier version that
has much less changes then starting from scratch... Ofcourse
this is no help to you.

Steven Gotz
September 7th, 2002, 10:38 AM
Are all of your files suddenly named "-1" in the bins? Here is the solution.

1. Open the corrupted project with Notepad.
2. Search with Notepad for "Rate=" . you should find numerous entries. Example: "rate=100,"
3. Change in all "Rate=X" the "," to "." Example: Change "rate=50," to "rate=50."
4. Save the project

If you want help doing this, some genius at mksol.net wrote a web based program where you browse for your corrupted file, press the send button, and it fixes it automatically and sends it back to you as a download. Just save it over the same name, or another name if you wish, and it is all fixed. Way too cool. The link is http://mksol.net/adb/premiere_fix.php

This information is on my Misc page. Drop by the site now and then. I think you will find it useful.

Steven
http://www.stevengotz.com/premiere.htm

Mike Rupp
December 11th, 2002, 08:18 AM
I have a one hour project ready to render, finalize, and export to CD, but during the final render of the whole deal, I get an error message "Codec not Found" about 1/3 of the way through the render. What has been rendered up to that point is ok. It seems to stop at the same place each time I try. There's nothing wrong with that particular clip in the program, and my HD's still have LOTS of room on them. I don't even know what to track down with this- any ideas guys?

Using AMD dual 1.6mhz proc on a Tyan board, with 1 gig RAM, Gforce card w/128MB, 2 HD,s-1w/60Gig, 1w/100gig.

Mike Rupp

Rob Lohman
December 11th, 2002, 10:21 AM
Are the source files all the same codec or do you use different
ones? (ie DV with MPEG or pictures etc.)

Mike Rupp
December 11th, 2002, 12:32 PM
I wish it were that easy- all the clips are from one source, and in the same codec. There's no mixing of source material at all. Mike

Rob Lohman
December 12th, 2002, 08:23 AM
I don't have much more to say on this I'm afraid. But I did run
a small search on Google Groups and found some threads that
indicate this seems to happen to a lot of people and no solution
as of yet... Here is a post:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=1de68a13.0%40WebX.la2eafNXanI&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3D%252Bpremiere%2B%252B%2522Codec%2Bnot%2BFound%2522%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG%26scoring%3Dd

Good luck!

Mike Rupp
December 12th, 2002, 09:52 AM
Thanks for the response Rob. Looks like I may have to take this up with Adobe if it's a problem occurring with many people. This is what I was afraid of when I decided to upgrade to 6.5. Maybe I should have stuck with 6.1 longer. Geez, how am I going to finish the project and get it to the client? Video editing is SOOOO fun. ike Rupp

Rob Lohman
December 13th, 2002, 04:57 AM
You do know that one of the major rules in almost any business is:

" Do not ever upgrade machines/software etc. whilst
in the middle of doing a project for a client "

(unless the update is needed for the client ofcourse, but then
you calculate the risks with them)

right?

Mike Rupp
December 13th, 2002, 10:34 AM
Rob,

I received a response from "Pappy" on another forum that seems to answer the problem- he suggested that I have the "4 gig limit problem", which I didn't even think about, but I'm using a new machine and we may have never formatted the AVI HD for the NTFS file sytsem, which he thinks is the problem.The rendering stops right at 18 minutes of timeline- exactly 4 gigs, so I'm getting a Maxtor external HD to back up the program today, and then switching to NTFS system on the AVI drive. Pappy says you can change to NTFS without affecting any of the data, but I'll back it all up externally just to be sure, as I've got probably 200+ hrs. into the program. I'll let you know if this sorts it all out- it sounds right. Thanks for your input. Mike Rupp

Rob Lohman
December 13th, 2002, 01:01 PM
That could be a real problem indeed! You should be able to convert
without dataloss indeed. But backup anyways!

If you right-click on a drive you can see its properties. It will
list whether it is NTFS or FAT formatted. Check before proceeding.

Good luck!

Jeremy Nixon
January 8th, 2003, 11:37 AM
How would I freeze on a frame in premiere 6 for say anywhere from 3 to 10 seconds for example ? Are there various ways of doing this?

Thanks in advance,

Jeremy

Robert Knecht Schmidt
January 8th, 2003, 12:16 PM
The easiest way is probably to create a still frame from your video and insert it. Adjust its duration to suit. You will need to apply an antiflicker filter (aka deinterlace filter) to the still frame clip if the still frame is sourced from an interlaced video clip.

Jeremy Nixon
January 8th, 2003, 03:47 PM
Hey thanks for the quick response!

Jeremy

Rob Lohman
January 8th, 2003, 05:16 PM
If you really need to have one frame still (ie, without INSERTING
a new frame) you can switch to 1 frame edit mode (in the lower
left) and razor cut the clip in 3 parts where the middle part is 1
frame long. This will become a new clip which you can adjust the
time off.

Almost the same thing as Robert mentioned but not exactly.

fargogogo
January 10th, 2003, 07:27 AM
With your cursor over the frame you want to freeze, press Control+Shift+M. This will create a seperate still image of your freeze that you can then inport into premiere and edit in at any length.

wiredryoko
January 15th, 2003, 01:10 AM
Lately, I've been having problems editing titles (and making new ones) in Premiere. Whenever I make a new title, the text is always gray, and even if I change the color, it is gray when I move it to the Premiere project, and appears as if it is overlayed/screened. Also, when I play with the audio rubber bands (on the audio) in attempt to fade out, it doesn't. It doesn't affect it at all.

Is this just a matter of clicking a few boxes to solve the problem, or is Premiere itself defective...?

Thanks

K. Forman
January 15th, 2003, 07:21 AM
I have never really had these problems with Premiere 6, and never did much titling with 5... What Version are you using? Keep at it, I know you'll get it.
Keith

Scott Silverman
January 19th, 2003, 03:14 AM
Hi,
Is it possible to do a gradual slow motion speed up to 100% speed in Premiere? I know how to do a "normal" slow motion speed up to directly full speed, but is not slow and gradual. Is this even possible? Thanks!

(I am using Premiere 6)

Alex Taylor
January 19th, 2003, 01:22 PM
I was wondering that myself a few months ago. I think the proper term for it is 'ramping,' and there's no real way to do it in Premiere, other than splitting your clip into short segments and increasing the speed like that.

I think there's something in After Effects called ramped slow motion that might work, if you have access to AE.

James Emory
January 20th, 2003, 02:23 AM
Scott,
When you say gradual, do you really mean slowly moving from slow motion to normal or are you talking about that sudden jump from normal to fast and then returning to normal such as an effect as in music videos? If it's the latter, Alex is correct about splitting the clips. Just choose the point in the clip where you want this to occur and razor the clip. Next, change the second half of the clip to the desired speed. I usually use 300%-500%. It should be a seemless ramp without a glitch. I've done it many times. You can also do normal to slow with a lower value. I wouldn't use anything below 50% though. In this case, I think I have ocassionally had to roll a couple or so frames on the adusted clip because of a glitch in the ramp.

Scott Silverman
January 20th, 2003, 01:38 PM
James,
Thanks for the reply. I know how to do the jump from fast to slow or normal to fast etc. I was looing to have somthing in slow motion and then have it slowly become faster until it was at the normal speed (100%). I haven't found a way to do this yet. I need to learn AE so I can start playing around in it. AE is a very complicated and complex program! Thanks.

James Emory
January 20th, 2003, 08:38 PM
Scott,
Can you give me an example of something that demonstrates this effect. The only thing I can think of is to razor the clip into several small segments each with varying speeds up to 100%. I definitely think you will have to roll in or out frames on the ends of each segment to remove any glitches that may occur. Whadaya think?

Scott Silverman
January 20th, 2003, 10:38 PM
James,
Sorry, I am not quite understanding what your are saying. I thought about slicing my footage into little pieces and increasing the speed on each one, but that would be a lot of work and wouldn't look very good. It would be choppy, I think. I will try it when I get a free moment. What exactly do you mean I "will have to roll in or out frames on the end of each segment to remove any glitches that may occur"? Sorry this may be a video term I am not understanding. Thanks for your help.

James Emory
January 20th, 2003, 10:54 PM
You can roll frames in and out on a clip (beginning or end) in the timeline by using the default tool. The most accurate is to zoom to frame level and grab the edge of the clip, left click and drag (roll) frames to realign at the cuts. It can be time consuming but you can keep doing this until the cuts are smooth with your desired effect. It's the same as cutting or adding one frame at a time with a clip but quicker.

Daniel Engberg
January 21st, 2003, 01:57 AM
Had the exact same problem.

I had been working on this huge project and everyonce in a while i saved the project file since i know from experiences that Premiere can crash...cousing loads of damage :)

Then it crashed and i tried opening the file but no...all clips renamed to -1 and there was nothing on the timeline..

However, i solved it yeasterday!!
I opened the original project file in notepad and tried to find the "RATE=100,00" but they seemed to be correct with a . instead of , ... Then i found the dir called Project-Archive where Premiere kinda auto-saves the project and found myself with 4 old copies of my project.

Only one of the earliest of these worked.. :( but then i compared the latest one of these with the original and found that this line had been blanked in the original
markers=0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

And in the archived version:
markers=174750,174899,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1

My guess is that this parameter tells premiere where to put the clip on the timeline..no?

Then i continued browsing the archived file and found that the RATE=100 parameter was set with , instead of . .... YEEEEHAAA!!

All i did was send this file onto the http:// ASP script thingebob listet in this topic and then the file worked fine again!!!

Plz tell Adobe to fix this error :)))

Hope this helps you out..
-StumdoeS

Michael Shipe
January 21st, 2003, 08:23 AM
I am interested in having a still image of a map with a red stain slowly consume the land. Jetting out to the cities first and then engulfing the less populated areas. This has been seen in many WWII movies showing the Axis advances.


So How do you do that? I have Premiere 6.5, Photoshop 7, Illustrator 10, and After Effects.

Any help from anyone would be greatly appreciated

Alex Taylor
January 21st, 2003, 09:38 AM
I would probably do this with After Effects. Make your map as two Photoshop layers: one with the normal map, and one with a big red layer that covers all of what you want it to cover when the red is finished. Set the opacity down a bit so you can still see the map.

Import it into AE as a Composition, this will automatically separate the layers for you (thank you Adobe!). Now, take the red layer and make a mask that starts off with the red invisible but then moves slowly downward (or whichever direction) until everything is visible.

Hope that helps!

Edward Troxel
January 21st, 2003, 12:17 PM
Or, try Vegas - it ramps like a dream. Just add a velocity envelope and you can ramp from -100% to 300%. You can easily go from 100% and gradually slowdown to a freeze frame and then gradually speed up again to 100%.

Brian M. Dickman
January 21st, 2003, 12:55 PM
There was a tutoral of an effect very similar to this on dvgarage. Free registration and some very interesting tutorials on stuff like AE and modellers.

http://www.dvgarage.com Check in "past tutorals", it's the last one there (#22).

Mike Young
January 21st, 2003, 05:57 PM
Seems to me that a gradient wipe is pretty much the same idea. Not sure of the details, but this is where I would start thinking.

Brian M. Dickman
January 22nd, 2003, 09:26 AM
Yeah, that's pretty much how the DVgarage tutoral does it. They multilayer the wipe though, so it's a gradient overlayed with a grunge texture so you have a more "organic" reveal. You could use this same kind of thing for the map, and build two gradient maps to overlay, one basic gradient from your centerpoint out, and then another where you use photoshop to slop on dark spots in the more populated, "faster taken" areas. combine the gradients and do your wipe, it should get a cool effect.

GaryBushey
January 23rd, 2003, 06:02 AM
Great site! Like how they explain step by step the "lightsaber" fight they have created. I have a feeling I will be there quite often =)

Michael Shipe
January 23rd, 2003, 08:39 AM
Thank you all for your help. With your help I got exactly what I wanted and it looks great! I went ahead and did a gradient wipe in Premiere. Still need to do some touching up on it...decide if I want to go with red or another color.

If you all would like to take a look at something close to the final take a look here: www.smyrnaministries.org/video/map.rm

Thanks everyone!

Marc Martin
January 23rd, 2003, 09:41 AM
Vegas is what you need: it's so easy ! It has a curve envelope, and you can add any points you want and make the perfect curve you need. It goes up to 300%, and down to 0%, and it's not all, you can reverse down to -100% !!!!

See the post on Vegas 4 beta: there's a link to download this version.

Scott Silverman
January 23rd, 2003, 08:38 PM
What is below was in response to this thread in the Mac Post Production Forum: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6190

I think I am having this same problem on my PC in Premiere 6. My audio sources claim to be 48 kHz and it is synced up in the beginning, but by the end of my video (about 45 minutes) the audio is significantly out of sync with the video. Does any one here know how to fix this problem on a PC?

James Emory
January 23rd, 2003, 11:16 PM
I had a similar issue when I first got my NLE. The problem was that Premiere and the Matrox DTV card/software were fighting for control of the audio. When I changed the settings in the stock computer sound card and gave the Matrox card control everything was then in sync. Recently I have had random and short sync issues but they go away with a restart of Premiere and/or the computer. Also, some of the projects have been large and some clips quite long. It never seems to happen with short clips or projects.

Rob Lohman
January 24th, 2003, 05:40 AM
Scott, did you record your audio on a seperate device or with
the camera that also shot your video?

Bryan Roberts
January 26th, 2003, 11:59 PM
Hey, I just got my Panasonic pv-dv852 (1.2 megapixels) and it's a great camera. I just shot some random footage outside my apartment complex handheld just walking around and captured it in Premiere 6.5. The file size is huge but the video doesn't seem SUPER and the avi it captured is rather small on my screen. Is this because I was walking around and the digital camcorders don't do well when jerked this much or what? When I set it to 200% larger size (which is obviously alot bigger) the video quality ofcourse drops. If I burned one of these movies on a video CD or DVD, how much magnification would be done to make the movie fill the TV screen? Is all DV footage always 720X480? This seems rather small. I have my resolution on my computer set at 1024 X 768. What are some tips to get the best video capture quality or processes to run to make video look the best possible when capturing on a pc? By the way, my computer specs are: (p4 2.4 gigahertz, a gigrdram, 128 mg radeon card). That's alot of questions, thanks!

Alex Taylor
January 27th, 2003, 12:17 AM
Don't let what you see in the monitor window in Premiere fool you, the quality is probably much better. If you watch that footage through your camera or -- even better -- on a TV, it will look much better. Capturing video with the default settings in Premiere should be fine and will get a nice looking image on the TV screen.

So try looking at it on a camera or TV monitor. If the quality is still crap, tell us and we'll figure it out :)

Rob Lohman
January 27th, 2003, 07:53 AM
DV footage will always be 720x480 for NTSC and 720x576 for PAL.
If you capture through firewire off a DV camera you get the
original digital file so you cannot get a lower quality. Keep in mind
that Premiere's preview window is just that, a preview. It can
have less quality and will certainly be at a lower resolution. If
you double-click on the file in the bin it will open a new window
which should be the footage in full resolution and quality.

HTH

Bryan Roberts
January 27th, 2003, 05:20 PM
Hey, well you guys were right. I ran the footage through just the supplied analog connector to my 36 inch and I was relieved to have a much better picture than I thought. Actually, when I wasn't jolting the camera around while walking, the picture was amazing! Near broadcast! When there is good lighting and the shutterspeed is set right among other things, this dv852 can look amazing as others on this site recommended this camcorder. I guess the little window that the movie played in on my desktop after I exported the file isn't a good representation of how the movie will look on a television not to mention the fact that it's so much smaller on the computer. Thanks guys, no fears now!

-Bryan Roberts

wefdenver
January 29th, 2003, 12:50 PM
I have attempted to convert my JPG pics to AVI via the method mentioned in the Premiere 6.0 manual. It takes FOREVER!! Does anyone know of a faster way to do that? I'd like to do this because when I'm making mods to the timeline it has to re-render every JPG and it's very frustrating.

Thanks in advance.

Rob Lohman
January 29th, 2003, 03:17 PM
I suggest to create a new movie, put the jpegs there in the
way you want and create an UNCOMPRESSED avi at the output
resolution you need. Now load your other project and import
this AVI file. No quality and speed loss.

This works best ofcourse for small segments and not the larger
ones!

Alex Taylor
January 29th, 2003, 07:04 PM
I'm just curious, why are you making JPEGS into AVIs?

Adam Brennan
February 6th, 2003, 02:00 PM
I just bought the Adobe 6.5 and haven't opened it due to being afraid it is full of bugs like the Pinnacle DV8 was. I had the same rendering problems with DV8 and it would stop on transistions. Not sure why, but I ended up having to split the porject up and render it in sections and then put it all together. too much hassle.

I will wathc this thread.

Mike Rupp
February 6th, 2003, 03:29 PM
Adam,
I wouldn't hold off on using Prem 6.5 if I were you- the problem I've had is with the Canopus driver, which has been updated, but I continued to use an older Canopus driver for Prem 5.1 because some projects were underway and I didn't want to make any software changes mid-stream. With updated drivers, and a few other acceptable set up changes, I'm sure I'll be able to render a whole one hour program without having to split it up into sections. Mike Rupp

Adam Brennan
February 6th, 2003, 03:56 PM
the canapus driver you are taliking about is a capture card or soemthing? Not sure what that is. What is it?