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Martin Archer-Shee
July 7th, 2006, 04:53 PM
Hi Cory

If you open up both sides of the case and take off the front cover you should see how things go together. Mind you the front cover is often the hardest part to remove. It is often held in place by a bunch of plastic snap pins/pieces. Look through the open sides and start playing with the front. Onmce you find "pivot" point start trying to release it. Once the front is off you should be able to slide the various drives into place and attach through the sides with those screws. hard to explain but once you get started you will see what is needed. Then connect all the wires and you should be running.
If you have difficulty take some pix and post them and some of us should be able to help.

Best of luck.

Martin

Cory Weekes
July 7th, 2006, 06:05 PM
Hey, thanks for your help Martin. I've taken off the sides and the front, but I don't see where you're supposed to screw in the drives. Could you please help me? I don't think I'm authorized to post pics. I do have them though. Update, I see two small holes on each side of the drives. Are those the ones to stick the screws in? I tried screwing one drive in and it looked good. Also, do any screws need to go on the bottom of the drives?

Martin Archer-Shee
July 8th, 2006, 03:32 AM
Hi Cory

Sounds like you should be on your way. My case had a series of holes that when you lined up the screw holes on the drives it allowed one to place one drive above another and align them front to back by a small amount.

Most drives come with several sets of screw holes. Normally the side ones are what are needed. If you are not sure as to the screw hole/ screw combination try one to make sure the screw is not too long or that you are not cross-threading.
Depending on the space in your case you might find it easier to install one at a time and connect the power and data cables before going to the next. Matter of choice.

Martin

Cory Weekes
July 12th, 2006, 08:25 PM
SUCCESS!!!! I got it to work last friday! It's been going good since. Thanks Martin and Brian, I really appreciate all of your help. I now have another problem, albeit a small one. I bought two antec 80mm tricolor fans for my duplicator, but the connectors aren't compatible with the ones on the duplicator. Any ideas? Thanks.

Brian Light
July 12th, 2006, 09:39 PM
Generally the fans I've bought came with an adapter to go from the standard drive power connector like the DVD Drives and hard drive have to what the fans need. Other wise you can just splice it in being sure to hook it to the correct wires. I'm betting the fan is 12 VDC.

SUCCESS!!!! I got it to work last friday! It's been going good since. Thanks Martin and Brian, I really appreciate all of your help. I now have another problem, albeit a small one. I bought two antec 80mm tricolor fans for my duplicator, but the connectors aren't compatible with the ones on the duplicator. Any ideas? Thanks.

Chris Barrow
July 20th, 2006, 09:00 AM
1. Acard 2033S controller from Amamax.com $145
2. 9 bay case from Copystars $84
3. Lite On DVD-ROM from Newegg $18
4. Pioneer 111 DVD RW drives from Newegg $35.00 each

All prices are the best I can remember here at work, but it was all free shipping and I have $500 in a 1 to 7 duplicator that would have cost almost $1400 at Microboards. BTW - it uses the same RW drives as a standard Microboards.

Super easy to build and works like a champ.

Bill Hamell
August 19th, 2006, 05:48 AM
Cory,

Now that you have had the duplacator for a while how is it doing, any problems?

Where did you find a ARS-2033S for $85?

Thanks,
Bill




Hey guys, I've ordered everything except my hard drive. I looked at some of your suggestions and altered my components a bit. Here is what I have now:


Acard Controller ARS-2033S : 1-to-7 DVD - costs $85
http://www.acard.com.tw/english/fb01-product.jsp?idno_no=135&prod_no=ARS-2033S&type1_title=CD/DVD%20Duplicator&type1_idno=4

Xcase 9 bay 500w 3 fans
http://copystars.com/xcase_9_bay_dvd_cd_duplicator_case_tower_60_prd1.htm

ASUS E616A 16X DVD-ROM (Black)
http://www.laptops4me.com/product_info.php/p/asus-e616a-16x-dvd-rom-black-%2C-bulk/products_id/11114

NEC 16X DVD±R DVD Burner Silver IDE Model ND-3550A
http://www.chiefvalue.com/product/productdetails.aspx?item=27-152-060

Cory Weekes
August 24th, 2006, 03:35 PM
Cory,

Now that you have had the duplacator for a while how is it doing, any problems?

Where did you find a ARS-2033S for $85?

Thanks,
Bill


Hey Bill. Sorry, I haven't been on here in awhile. This is a great forum, so I can't just abandon it. My duplicator is still working like a heavyweight champ. Thanks for asking. I actually lucked out in regards to the Acard controller. I bought it off of ebay. Looking back on that, man that was a great deal. The cheapest price I found after that is $115.

Phillip Massey
November 9th, 2006, 11:51 AM
Hello. My name is Phillip Massey.
I was doing a search about building a dvd duplicator and I saw the responses here about building one. I just a have few questions that I know someone the answers to. So will anyone help me if you can.
Well, first let me tell you what I have.
PC/Dupicator case XCase model number 2727D
- Motherboard MaxSpeed KM800
- Processor: AMD Sempron (Boxed)
- Memory: 512 DDR
- 2 Hard Drive 120 gigs each
- Wytron DVD Controller
- 1 DVD ROM
- 5 DVD-RW
- 550Watt Powersupply
And this is what I would like to do :
I want to build an duplicator with HD and motherbord So really it would be a PC with 5 DVD burners.

first,do you connect or how do you conect the controller card to the HD or the motherboard ?
How would you install XP ? (since this will be also a PC).
Is the Master drive(DVD rom , the reader) will also be conected to the motherboard ?
My case only have the switch to turn "it "on. Meaning that I think I can only turn on one "thing "as one whole unit,either the mothboard or the burners. I dont have a switch to turn on the motherboard and then other swith for the DVD burners. If this case is a problem or if you know of a case to buy please let me know.
So I want to be able to burn DVD's and also use this as a PC.

I think that covers it,but if you guys know of anything that I didn't ask and I should, to please tell me.
thank you again for the help.


phillip massey
e-mail: phillipmassey@hotmail.com

Steven Davis
November 9th, 2006, 02:04 PM
I bought a controller, box premade and the drives. I didn't go the motherboard route. There are several part lists in threads along these lines. Each having a link to parts. The cheapest way I found was the box, controller and drives.

You don't need the motherboard, but if you do build it to fit both a pc and duplicator, you'll need a mother board that has a lot of power and connectors. Honestly, I think you would appreciate a seperate duplicator better.

Ken McGrath
November 16th, 2006, 12:54 PM
I am building a duplicator, but I am not clear on whether I am supposed to use an "image" file (.iso extension when I create using Encore DVD) or do I use a DVD that has already been burned as the source for duplicator?

Cory Weekes
November 18th, 2006, 05:12 AM
Do you have a manual with the controller you bought? it should explain it in there. If not, I owuld go with the dvd as the source to store from.

Ken McGrath
November 18th, 2006, 08:15 PM
I downloaded the manual (I am still awaiting delivery of the controller unit), but they are not specific about the nature of the source. Maybe I am making this much more complicated than it needs to be and all I have to do is burn a DVD and load it into the dvd-rom of the duplicator, save it to the hard drive, and start duplicating. That is my best guess, but I was hoping some of the existing users out there could clarify this one for me....

Larry Pierce
November 22nd, 2006, 09:09 PM
I built an 11 bay about a month ago.

I've got a Wyrton 399 controller and Pioneer 110D burners. I've got a Lite-On DVD-ROM reader drive and a 160 GB hard drive.

Currently I've only got 3 burners in, but the card is expandable to 9 so I'm adding one at a time when I get significant orders. Should be at a full 9 by the end of the year.

It's great, works flawlessly.

The only issue really to plan for is the hard drive. It partitions the drive based upon either CD, DVD or Dual layer DVD. So the partitions are either 800MB, 4.7 GB, or 9 GB. This is important because on my 160GB drive I get 24 partitions. I can load 24 different images onto it. So a 200 MB CD image takes a 4.7 GB partition.

So you end up needing a bigger hard drive than you might think to hold all your stuff.


I also built a 9 target with the Wytron DVD-399 all of a sudden using the Load function at start-up it appears to no longer copy to the hard drive first. but will work with the Copy function disc to disc ! got any ideas ? I took the 120 gig hard drive out and checked it it appears to be ok. I reformated it did not know if it just got full or if the controller keeps the drive up to date. It still wont work... went thru the set up again if you have no ideas I guess it is back to company with the card and just when I was getting a fairly decent job to copy ?

if anyboody else has had this problem I would appreciate any help . I have updated the firmware to 3.27 I think is the latest

Larry

Jake McKensy
May 12th, 2007, 07:23 AM
Greetings,

I'm new to the forum, I signed up here mainly for this thread. I'm planning on building a duplication tower and this thread has been the single best resource on the web for me!

My first question is, does a tower need any software, other than what comes with the hardware? Or is that not necessary at all? For example, some of the burner drives come with Nero or other burning software. Is that necessary for the burners to work? Or can that be detrimental for compatibility with the controller card?

My other question is, how do you upgrade firmware? Do you hook up the controller, DVD drives etc. to a computer, download firmware off the web and install it like that? Do you burn firmware to a disc and run it in the drives? How does that work?

Thanks for the help, I'm glad I've found this place and I'm glad to be here.

Larry Pierce
May 12th, 2007, 08:25 AM
My first question is, does a tower need any software,

Controller cards have all the software you need for copying and other functions a little bit of a learning curve on each card.

My other question is, how do you upgrade firmware?

I've never ungraded my firmware but the Manuel for the card will describe how to download the firmware and copy to a CD then that is placed in the read drive to update all the drives.. at once. I use a Acard 9 burner model card with Pioneer 16 X burners


Larry Pierce

Steven Davis
May 12th, 2007, 06:11 PM
My first question is, does a tower need any software,

Controller cards have all the software you need for copying and other functions a little bit of a learning curve on each card.

My other question is, how do you upgrade firmware?

I've never ungraded my firmware but the Manuel for the card will describe how to download the firmware and copy to a CD then that is placed in the read drive to update all the drives.. at once. I use a Acard 9 burner model card with Pioneer 16 X burners


Larry Pierce

No, the controller card you buy takes care of the duplication control. Firmware, not sure.

Jake McKensy
May 12th, 2007, 10:38 PM
Thanks for the replies Larry and Steven. I'm about ready to make my purchases. Any other pointers people have on this subject is welcome. Thanks again.

Jake

Jake McKensy
May 13th, 2007, 01:48 PM
Is it a good idea to stay away from OEM drives as general practice? I'm reading reviews at newegg and every drive out there has negative reviews mixed in with the positive ones. It makes me feel like I'm just rolling the dice with whatever choice I make.

Does anyone have any recommendations or words of wisdom for choosing my set of burner drives?

Thanks,

Jake

Jake McKensy
May 20th, 2007, 09:27 PM
Greetings,

I have a couple other questions.

Do DVD drives usually come with IDE cables?

And, how do you power your drives? Do you need to hook them up with separate power cables? If so, how does that work?

Please excuse my ignorance, and thanks for all the help.

Jake

Steven Cowie
May 21st, 2007, 02:59 AM
the duplicator controller normally ships with IDE cables (well all the wytron ones I've ever bought have had full set numbered 1 to 9 included)

the duplicator case power supply will usually have a full set of power plugs, though I've had a few that needed a couple of Y splitters to handle full set of 8 burners, 1 hard disk and the controller (with everything imaged to hard disk I never bother with dedicated readers, I prefer just doubling up one of the burners for reader duties to get 8 burners in a unit rather than 7 and a reader)

Pioneer and toshiba never caused me any problems ran off of wytron controllers

Buy a few extra drives at time of purchase for swapping out any failed ones you might end up with later on That way you wont have to worry about firmware revisions etc - theres nothing worse than trying to scrabble around finding one or two of whats become last years model of burner 12 months down the line to recomplete a matching set.