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Nicholas Logothetis
July 29th, 2010, 12:54 PM
Hello everyone and thank you for accepting me in this online community.
I am quite new in this stuff and would like to know the opinion of some of the experts.

I want to set up a studio to film a "talk show" with simple cameras like the cannon legria fs200. Since I want to spent as little time as possible for editing, I want to live edit the show with a video mixer.
My budget is limited so I am looking for Numark AVM02.
Will that do the business? Also I will be recording from a PC.

Help is appreciated.
Cheers!

Edward Carlson
July 29th, 2010, 02:37 PM
The AVM02 is not designed for TV studios, it is designed for Video DJs (VJs) so I don't think it would be the best option. Look at the DataVideo SE-500. It is almost the same price, and is designed for the studio. Live switching is not the easiest thing to do, so you will need practice before you can get it perfect.

Nicholas Logothetis
July 30th, 2010, 02:37 AM
The AVM02 is not designed for TV studios, it is designed for Video DJs (VJs) so I don't think it would be the best option. Look at the DataVideo SE-500. It is almost the same price, and is designed for the studio. Live switching is not the easiest thing to do, so you will need practice before you can get it perfect.

Thanx for your reply Edward. I bet practice makes perfect!

I dont like the iputs/outputs on the DataVideo SE-500, so if I go a bit higher on the budget, would you recommend the Edirol/Roland V4 instead?

Edward Carlson
July 30th, 2010, 07:49 AM
Any reason you don't like the inputs and outputs? The problem with the V5 is that you don't have any way to monitor all the inputs at the same time. The SE-500 has a quad split output of all 4 inputs at the same time. This is important because you want to be able to monitor the camera you are about to switch to in case the framing is wrong, you can fix it before you take the camera.

One thing I forgot to mention, too. You are going to have to consider how you are running audio. You will need an audio mixer if you go with the V4. The SE-500 has two 1/4" inputs and a basic audio mixer, but you will probably still want to get an external mixer.

Nicholas Logothetis
August 3rd, 2010, 04:46 AM
Any reason you don't like the inputs and outputs? The problem with the V5 is that you don't have any way to monitor all the inputs at the same time. The SE-500 has a quad split output of all 4 inputs at the same time. This is important because you want to be able to monitor the camera you are about to switch to in case the framing is wrong, you can fix it before you take the camera.

One thing I forgot to mention, too. You are going to have to consider how you are running audio. You will need an audio mixer if you go with the V4. The SE-500 has two 1/4" inputs and a basic audio mixer, but you will probably still want to get an external mixer.

I just like the RCA output/iputs. I have a very simple audio console wich might do the trick.
The cameras are going to be mounted on tripods and will not move like a real TV studio.

Edward Carlson
August 3rd, 2010, 07:52 AM
I still think that a real switcher will be way better than a VJ switcher. The BNC inputs can be adapted into RCA inputs with an adapter available from a bunch of stores or online for less than $1.

Calvin Bellows
August 3rd, 2010, 12:35 PM
Have you thought about a Tricaster?

NewTek TriCaster (http://www.newtek.com/tricaster/)

Nicholas Logothetis
August 4th, 2010, 11:25 AM
Have you thought about a Tricaster?

NewTek TriCaster (http://www.newtek.com/tricaster/)


SOOO expensive for me!!

Nicholas Logothetis
August 4th, 2010, 12:13 PM
Ediron Roland V4
http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/m/m6pOaw0HiPOluavA4tIGIlQ/96.jpg

Numark AVM02
http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/m/mPB7HmKfk2kFr-b07y4gIdw/96.jpg

Datavideo SE500
http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/m/mvZheTFnliShPpyatCGxcgA/96.jpg

...and i cant make up my mind. All the above are in the same price range (at least on ebay) and more or less cover my needs of:
-At least 3 video inputs
-Video preview (the V4 lacks on this one)

Shaun Roemich
August 4th, 2010, 08:19 PM
I own the Edirol LVS400 right now. T-bar is the nicest I've used outside of Ross or Grass Valley switchers. Signal is good. Cuts are fast, which can be a problem with SOME frame store sync switchers.

Edirol / Roland LVS-400 Live Production Switcher LVS-400 - B&H (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/341664-REG/Edirol_Roland_LVS_400.html#reviews)

I'll be replacing it next year with an HD offering yet to be determined but it is a SOLID little unit.

Eric Mayrand
August 4th, 2010, 11:35 PM
Webcasting Software - How Wirecast is used - Telestream (http://www.telestream.net/wire-cast/overview.htm)
Kinda like a Tricaster but just software running on a PC. HDV or DV Cams connect via firewire and output is streaming (don't know whether the mix can also be recorded to PC's drive).

Nicholas Logothetis
August 5th, 2010, 12:07 PM
I own the Edirol LVS400 right now. T-bar is the nicest I've used outside of Ross or Grass Valley switchers. Signal is good. Cuts are fast, which can be a problem with SOME frame store sync switchers.

Edirol / Roland LVS-400 Live Production Switcher LVS-400 - B&H (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/341664-REG/Edirol_Roland_LVS_400.html#reviews)

I'll be replacing it next year with an HD offering yet to be determined but it is a SOLID little unit.

Yep. Seen this as well. Seems better than the V4 model, but about 500usd more expensive on ebay.

Webcasting Software - How Wirecast is used - Telestream (http://www.telestream.net/wire-cast/overview.htm)
Kinda like a Tricaster but just software running on a PC. HDV or DV Cams connect via firewire and output is streaming (don't know whether the mix can also be recorded to PC's drive).

This is simply amazing. But unfortunately I think its only for live broadcasting over the net. If it would record, this would be the best option, regarding it wont need a computer from NASA to run on.