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David Morgan
August 27th, 2010, 01:18 PM
Looking for ideas on how to save the most time and secure your data cards when shooting solo, either run and gun or fixed locations. Card format may be S x S, P-2, compact flash or other.....

Is anyone taking the time and effort to backup the cards on site before driving home with the shoot in your camera or bag? Are we really hauling laptops and hard drives to the shoot?

Dean Sensui
August 28th, 2010, 01:17 AM
I do this occasionally.

After the day's shoot I'll use a MacBook Pro to copy files to two different Firewire drives. The drives are compact and self-powered so I only need to provide power for the laptop.

Only once did I have to copy files during a shoot and that proved hectic without an assistant. Too much risk for a mistake and losing important footage. It's better to have enough cards to last through the day.

Burk Webb
February 21st, 2013, 04:12 PM
One of the reasons I love shooting with the C300, you can shoot to two cards simultaneously.

Mark Watson
February 21st, 2013, 04:39 PM
I dump my CF and SD cards to a Nexto DI.

Mike Calla
February 22nd, 2013, 12:13 PM
Using DSLRs (cf,SD)
- Cards from camera straight in to small netbook via usb3 reader-
- back it up to ext HD when i have two secs

Peter Kay
February 24th, 2013, 04:43 AM
I bought the Black Magic Design Hyperdeck and a couple of SSD's. Now, every time I hit record on my AF101 the internal SD card is written and the Hyperdeck also automatically starts to record.
The Hyperdeck is my primary footage whilst the internal camera's SD is the backup.

Fingers crossed, no lost footage yet... :)

Jonathan Levin
February 24th, 2013, 10:39 AM
With the cost of CF cards being low enough to add to a budget, I wonder if anyone here just archives the original CF card(s) and uses new cards for each project?

P2 is to costly to do this.

Jonathan

Al Bergstein
March 3rd, 2013, 10:51 AM
Cards are not as cheap as hard drives, yet. I just buy enough cards to last the day. I use Pelican holders for the cards, the label side up means they are empty, the white write on side up mean used. I never want to hunt for an empty card, and I never want to dump cards in the field, though I have done so during lunch at times.

Mike Watson
March 3rd, 2013, 04:47 PM
With the cost of CF cards being low enough to add to a budget, I wonder if anyone here just archives the original CF card(s) and uses new cards for each project?

P2 is to costly to do this.

Jonathan

I shoot on the Sony FS-100, it shoots on SD cards (which are half the price of CF cards), I keep the original SD card until the edit is delivered. We have a dozen or so SD cards at any one point.

My 2nd camera is a 5D, and when I use it as a b-cam, I keep the CF cards as well.

Panagiotis Raris
March 4th, 2013, 07:38 PM
old dell laptop occasionally.

Denis Danatzko
March 8th, 2013, 12:51 AM
Dave,
It depends on the type of event I'm shooting. If it's a "small' shoot, i.e. a brief interview, a promotional web spot, or a long performance, then I don't usually back-up on-site unless the client insists on seeing the footage then & there. If so, then I'll lock the card and back-up to an external drive and/or a G-RAID mini on a laptop before I play it for the client.

If it's a large, busy event, (I shoot barrel racing where there may be 200-300+ riders), then I'll back up at convenient times, (often, after every 15 riders within a class, and during breaks between classes). But I have enough cards handy to capture an entire class (divided by 15 riders) before I'll have to re-use a card. (Each ride only takes about 20-25 secs, but I do that so frequently because the riders like to see themselves/their horse shortly after their ride and don't want to wait an hour for me to get a break in the action, then another 30 mins or so copying to a hard drive).

I don't edit those rides on the spot, but I do have them ready for re-play, which is often handled by my wife or daughter.

I also take it on shoots where the job calls for a teleprompter, but I'm considering getting a tablet for that. (My prompter- an Ikan PT3100 - is too big and heavy for frequent on-site use).

But, basically, yes...I'm taking a laptop to almost every shoot, and often with a 2nd, larger monitor. I don't always take it out of the car, but I have it if necessary, and on some shoots, I find it's vital in order to provide playback quickly. However, I doubt many others face similar situations, i.e. rapidly successive action for 3-4 hours almost without stopping.

Bill Davis
March 9th, 2013, 03:19 PM
Looking for ideas on how to save the most time and secure your data cards when shooting solo, either run and gun or fixed locations. Card format may be S x S, P-2, compact flash or other.....

Is anyone taking the time and effort to backup the cards on site before driving home with the shoot in your camera or bag? Are we really hauling laptops and hard drives to the shoot?

Check out ShotPut Pro.

I use that running on a MacPro laptop to make multiple card backups to different drives if I know I'm going to chew through a lot of footage on a field shoot.

Warren Kawamoto
March 9th, 2013, 10:59 PM
I keep enough SxS cards to last the entire day so I can stay focused on shooting. After a card is full, I put it in a pouch, which is in my front pocket. I never put a full card in a bag! If someone walked away with my bag or camera, at least I have the footage on me. My shoot is still recoverable. If someone ever walked away with my filled cards, however, I'm absolutely done. To be double safe, I also have my name and phone number on each card just in case it ever goes MIA somewhere.

Bruno Demeocq
December 21st, 2013, 06:00 AM
Good idea to put the phone number on SXS, should be difficult on smaller card. I copy on my MBP and then on external laCie Rugged. I do not have enough card so sometimes I have to bring my MPB on the field which is not always a good idea.

Darren Levine
December 21st, 2013, 10:16 AM
i used to do laptop + external drive backups, but now cards a pretty darn cheap these days, and my c100 records dual slots, so if im really feeling paranoid, i can run dual slot recording. and considering how cheap sd cards are these days....

Amazon.com: PNY Elite Performance 64GB UHS-1 SDXC Flash Card (P-SDX64U1H-GE): Computers & Accessories (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E83XHXM/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00E83XHXM&linkCode=as2&tag=dlevi-20)

one of those is over 5 hours at the c100's bitrate. 80 bucks for 5 hours of backed up footage is a bargain. double it and it's still only 160 for over 10 hours of backed up footage. much more preferable to having to keep a laptop around

Chris DeVoe
January 2nd, 2014, 03:56 PM
I always have my laptop with me, as I shoot via Adobe OnLocation from my big Canon XH-A1. This gets around the one hour load limit of DVC cassettes - I can shoot four or more hours continuously. I have a lettered and numbered set of eight 32 gig SD cards. So I'll start a concert shoot with the four extra cameras with A1 through D1, swapping them to A2 through D2.

Because I have the laptop with me, after we pack up the gear, my wife and I will have a meal in a restaurant that doesn't mind me having my laptop open on the table - gyros and kebab places are especially friendly. By the time we finish our meal, all the material is on the work hard drive, and dropped onto video tracks in Edius. I may even be on the way to having the material synced up. When we get home, I have Edius make an SD proxy of my HD original material which takes a few hours. I generally have 200 gigabytes of raw footage. But once done, I can cut everything in Edius' Multicam mode which shows me a split screen, and I can cut the show like I'm running a switcher.