Or is $10k a good price for the features and quality? Like to know beforehand.

Actually $ 8000 without lens, $ 8,600 with lens at BH Photo

Or is $10k a good price for the features and quality? Like to know beforehand.

YES

Especially if you have use for the overcranking features which have never before been seen in its price range...

The FS100 was a steal for the price, and with the addition of good 240fps, ND filters, cinegammas, a better top handle, more resolution, HD-SDI, 4k RAW possibilities, the FS700 seems like a pretty amazing upgrade for only $3k more. FS100 was a no-brainer for me, FS700 is even more so.

We're doing a commercial next week on the FS700 for a fraction of the price we did a Weisscam shoot on last month. We won't need more then 240fps for most stuff. The price of the 700 to buy was cheaper than the total hire cost of the Weisscam system, operator and lenses for one day.

I'm gonna say yes, just cause I wish I could afford one now :P Compared to other cameras though I'd say it's very reasonable!

Peter,

Let me know when the Ad gets up, I'd like to see it.

Thanks,
Al

BTW, off topic but nice 2012 reel. :)

Thanks Al. Will do. We were planning on mixing the F3 with FS700 but will probably just shoot on the FS700.

I've gotten 2 confirmed rentals, one unconfirmed but likely rental, and a TV spot for a hockey team needing the high speed abilities of the FS700.

AND The camera hasn't arrived yet.

From where I am standing if this trend were to continue the camera is looking like a bargain.

YES

Especially if you have use for the overcranking features which have never before been seen in its price range...

The FS100 was a steal for the price, and with the addition of good 240fps, ND filters, cinegammas, a better top handle, more resolution, HD-SDI, 4k RAW possibilities, the FS700 seems like a pretty amazing upgrade for only $3k more. FS100 was a no-brainer for me, FS700 is even more so.

So the recession in the US is a lie and everyone has surplus cash? Nice.

No, the recession is very real - but we are willing to invest scarce cash in a camera that is going to make our investment back quickly -- because it can do things no other camera at its price point can do :-)

So the recession in the US is a lie and everyone has surplus cash? Nice.

Apparently there is a recession, though I can't say I've felt particularly underemployed in the past couple years.

On the other hand, the FS700 may end up saving me a lot of money since I may sell my Scarlet and will definitely sell my FS100 (and Heliopan VariND)... I've found my FS100 to be working far more than my Scarlet lately, so the FS700 seems it may be a step in the right direction.

and a TV spot for a hockey team needing the high speed abilities of the FS700.


Hi Chris,
Going on the assumption that you know this, but do some tests on frame rates in the hockey arena because of possible lighting source power phase issues that can cause flickering at 240fps.

ProVideo Coalition.com: Stunning Good Looks by Art Adams (http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/aadams/story/cameras_avoiding_the_big_gotcha_when_shooting_high_speed_at_night/)

Thanks for the heads up. We will be shooting some test shots ahead of time with the stunt team.

So the recession in the US is a lie and everyone has surplus cash? Nice.

It's BECAUSE there's a recession that this camera is so popular. Because money is tight, people are looking to the FS700 over much pricer cameras as it's not the same quality as an Alexa, Epic, Weisscam, Phantom or whatever, but if an $8k camera can be 'good enough' when people can't afford the usual suspects, then of course it's going to be popular.

You could say it's overpriced for a consumer camera, but I don't think it's consumers who are buying it.

OTOH, a lot of us will be filming jobs that would only get made if an FS700 was available - for example, "we'd like to shoot it on Epic or even C300 or F3, but we can't afford to own one and rental isn't the way to go. Halve the price and we're set to go".

We're doing a commercial next week on the FS700 for a fraction of the price we did a Weisscam shoot on last month. We won't need more then 240fps for most stuff. The price of the 700 to buy was cheaper than the total hire cost of the Weisscam system, operator and lenses for one day.

Hi Peter,

Are you thinking of making the camera available for rental? Or is it wet hire only? In the wake of NAB I opted for the BMC for the wider dynamic range, but I'm very keen to put the FS700's slow-mo capabilities to the test on a TVC or two.

As for your question Jalan, I think it's a hell of a lot of camera for the money.

If we were based closer to Melbourne I would be in the hire business but logisticaly it's a bit tricky. The BMC is lot cheaper and may may better DR, but it's the slomo that interests me. Our first full FS700 shoot is next week for the Olympics; javelin and long jump!

It won't be long before cheaper cameras with the same functions but at a cheaper price are available. HD cameras when they 1st arrived we very expensive.

I don't know. These things seem to come out at NAB. We have our first rental this week so it will be making money straight off. I could wait six months or a year for something cheaper, but why do that if you can use what is available now. Just look at Scarlet. It was due to ship in 2009 and only became available in 2012. Life's too short and so is a camera's lifetime.

So the recession in the US is a lie and everyone has surplus cash? Nice.

Global economic numbers are made from underachievers, overachievers and the majority in between.
Recession doesn't always hit everyone.
Nor does everybody profit from economic growth.

The FS700 is only overpriced if you can't afford it or can't justify the cost in your business model.

It opens up higher framerates at HD-resolution at a far lower cost than before.
Less expensive camera, less expensive memorycards, less expensive postproduction.
In that perspective it's cheap.
I think it will open up markets (people/companies that need a video; not filmmakers) that wouldn't want to (or just couldn't) pay for a (rented) Phantom, Alexa or Red.

In agree. We recently rented a Weisscam with DIT op, lenses, 150mm tripod, etc. etc; cost $10K. It was great, the Weisscam operator was fantastic and the pictures look terrific. We mainly shot at 250fps and 500fps. But if we can get away with 240fps on a FS700, why wouldn't we?