View Full Version : Magic Lantern on 7D


Rickey Brillantes
April 30th, 2013, 08:34 PM
Hi guys quick questions for you, I have loaded the ML on my 7D, this is the thing every time the screens shuts off ML disappears, also I cant find the shutter lock on the screen, does it even come with it?

Ted Ramasola
May 1st, 2013, 02:10 AM
The ML for 7D is still at alpha stage and unless you are savy with the hack I don't recommend you use it for serious work at this time.

They have not even included the autoboot on it so you have to load it everytime you turn on the camera.

I am an ML user for the 5D mk 2 and have not begun using it until it was stable already.

You can get many questions answered here; Magic Lantern Forum - Index (http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/)

Rickey Brillantes
May 1st, 2013, 08:54 AM
Thanks Ted, the ML on my 60D really spoiled me, I have been using it for a while with no issues, oh well I guess I have to live without it while shooting on the 7D.

Donald McPherson
May 1st, 2013, 10:03 AM
As you found out ML only works until you power off. When you restart you have to reload ML. Apparently they could make it work but it would infringe on the Canon firmware rules making it illegal. So ML programmers do not want the wrath of Canon. Just wait I am sure they will find a workaround.

Ted Ramasola
May 1st, 2013, 10:31 AM
Thanks Ted, the ML on my 60D really spoiled me, I have been using it for a while with no issues, oh well I guess I have to live without it while shooting on the 7D.

I hear ya, I too have a 7D and I'm itching for them to get it done so I can get better HDR motion by using 60p which my 5D2 does not have.

I was getting kinda impatient but then I got excited again with the recent progress they are making with DNG raw and YUV 422 recording on the 5D and hopefully soon on the 7D as well.

I'm testing the nightly builds and so far I can do 51 frames or 2+ seconds of DNG raw "video" they have achieved 400 frames on the 5d3 already.

Rickey Brillantes
May 1st, 2013, 11:44 AM
As you found out ML only works until you power off. When you restart you have to reload ML. Apparently they could make it work but it would infringe on the Canon firmware rules making it illegal. So ML programmers do not want the wrath of Canon. Just wait I am sure they will find a workaround.

On my case the ML doesn't reload when my screen shuts off, once I hit the record button and my screen turns on, the ML is gone.

Vince Baker
May 15th, 2013, 01:10 PM
what happens when you change out a battery? Does that require reloading again as well?

Richard Collins
May 16th, 2013, 04:33 AM
I hear ya, I too have a 7D and I'm itching for them to get it done so I can get better HDR motion by using 60p which my 5D2 does not have.

I was getting kinda impatient but then I got excited again with the recent progress they are making with DNG raw and YUV 422 recording on the 5D and hopefully soon on the 7D as well.

I'm testing the nightly builds and so far I can do 51 frames or 2+ seconds of DNG raw "video" they have achieved 400 frames on the 5d3 already.

This would make my year! The 7D quality makes me wince now I've been using the C100. If I could have RAW full HD on it it would be incredible news!

Ted Ramasola
May 16th, 2013, 04:39 AM
Richard,

That post was in May 1st. Progress is being made every hour! Currently I can now record raw dng video on my 5DMKII. Due to my slow card, I can only do short bursts in 1880x1080. In lower modes I can record longer.
I'm getting a fast 1000x CF to be able to do that.

As of now developers are still stuck with regards to the 7D. They might be able to get it to work similar to 5DmkII


I posted my test with 5DMKII here:

5D mkII + Magic Lantern Raw DNG Alpha version test video - YouTube

Richard Collins
May 16th, 2013, 04:58 AM
Nice images Ted!

Do you think that because of the Dual Digic in the 7D, we may not be limited to lower resoultion than full HD?

John Richard
May 16th, 2013, 07:15 AM
Keep hoping for some of this to trickle down to the 7D.

TOTALLY off top - Ted - that was beautiful sax music to go along with your wonderful footage. Who was that?

Ted Ramasola
May 16th, 2013, 07:22 AM
@John Richard

Thanks, that music was from my old Corel music Library. The library's song don't have titles, just classifications.

@Richard Collins

I'm no coding expert, but just to relay what developers are saying, as of yesterday, they said at least to expect 7D to be equal in capability with 5D2. But who knows, it's a work in progress.

At least there is an alpha for the 7D, I don't use it yet since its a very early version and requires you to load it everytime you turn on the camera.

Ron Little
May 25th, 2013, 07:38 AM
Ted, where did you see that they are looking at the 7d for the raw recording?

Ted Ramasola
May 27th, 2013, 09:23 PM
Ron,

Last info from the developers is they want the raw recording to be stable on the mkII and mkII before porting it to other cameras.

No raw recording yet on the 7D, I only mentioned about the current alpha which does not include raw video.

Donald McPherson
May 28th, 2013, 01:47 PM
I'm guessing that it won't be long It's working on 550d, 600d, 50d and 60d as well as the 5d mk II and III

Ted Ramasola
May 28th, 2013, 02:06 PM
Donald,

It is reported that the 50D has been tested and is getting positive results already. Very early version still but its looking good.

It lives! 5 year old $350 Canon 50D becomes raw cinema monster | EOSHD.com (http://www.eoshd.com/content/10507/it-lives-5-year-old-350-canon-50d-becomes-raw-cinema-monster)

Sample raw video from 50D.
Canon EOS 50D raw video - 2x anamorphic (2560x960p) on Vimeo

Rickey Brillantes
June 5th, 2013, 08:05 AM
Ted, I am trying to upload the raw hd to my 60D which has the previous ML in it, the card has already "autoexec.bin" installed.

Now the new ML HD raw has also "autoexec.bin" Do this thing work together, or should I disable the first one? Thanks.

Ted Ramasola
June 5th, 2013, 03:06 PM
No need to "disable" or uninstall the old one. Just take out your CF card from camera, place into CF card reader and just over write the old ones. I suggest you keep them on file in case you need to roll back.

Don't remove all files on your CF card just copy/replace with the new nightly builds you downloaded. If they are like the ones on the 5d then you would have an autoexec.bin and and ML folder.

Rickey Brillantes
June 5th, 2013, 04:00 PM
Got it! So it overwrites it to the raw hd. I did a test shoot but when I put the SD card into my laptop it shows PS files, I google it but I couldn't find the converter rawtodng for mac. Even in ML website they don't seem to have it. Does this conversion only works with After Effects or is there another application for it?

Ron Little
June 9th, 2013, 09:11 AM
Does anyone know if you can get clean HDMI out of the 7D yet?

Al Gardner
June 9th, 2013, 02:06 PM
No need to "disable" or uninstall the old one. Just take out your CF card from camera, place into CF card reader and just over write the old ones. I suggest you keep them on file in case you need to roll back.

Don't remove all files on your CF card just copy/replace with the new nightly builds you downloaded. If they are like the ones on the 5d then you would have an autoexec.bin and and ML folder.


Are you guys talking about the same thing? Rick mentioned a 60d and you say copy it to your Compact Flash card? The 60D doesn't use compact flash?