View Full Version : Headphones, what to buy?


Josh Bass
March 21st, 2003, 02:33 PM
I have a cheap pair of $20 headphones, and want to get better ones. My friend said you can spend around $40 and get a good pair. I want to know what the pros think. I've heard the best brands are Aiwa and Sony. What do I want? What do I look for?

K. Forman
March 21st, 2003, 02:48 PM
Definately get headphones that have the cup which covers the entire ear. They should be adjustable, and set comfortably, yet snug.

Jeff Donald
March 21st, 2003, 02:55 PM
Josh, do a search on this one. A lot has been said about headphones. Sony and Sennheiser are the two popular brands.

Nori Wentworth
March 21st, 2003, 03:57 PM
I have to disagree with Keith.

Josh, Sony has a pair of headphones called fontopia. They are ear-buds that I would guess would be about $50US. They sound amazing. I used to use very expensive "studio" quality headphones that had a massive cup, but i stopped wearing them because they were so cumbersome. I used to avoid earbuds like a plague, but after hearing the Fontopias....
SO Sweet!
Plus you can easily pop one side out if you like.

I do wish that Canon would of made the headphone output on the XL1 slightly louder than it is.

K. Forman
March 21st, 2003, 04:46 PM
Ear buds huh? I haven't had any of those since I gave up my walkman. How are they with the ambient sound around you? The reason I liked the full ear cups, is because they keep out most of what is around you. That can be a bother though...

Nori Wentworth
March 21st, 2003, 07:07 PM
Most Earbuds really suck, they never fit in your ear properly, and usually break quite easy. Fontopia is the way.
-Nori

Josh Bass
March 22nd, 2003, 01:03 AM
I will look into your suggestions. Thanks.

Ken Tanaka
March 22nd, 2003, 01:38 AM
Keith and Nori ar both right.

The Sony MDR-7506's are the general standard for pro headphones. Very good sound, foldable, closed cups. The 7505's are nearly identical except a bit more compact.

The Fotopia's that Nori mentioned are also very good. If they are the ones I'm thinking of (and have), they are not the usual Walkman-style earbuds that lodge over your ear canal. These headphones fit into your ear canal using tiny flexible rubber cups. They do a pretty good job of isolating you from ambient sound and they really do sound good. If you're traveling light and don't want to schlep much more than your camera (and mic), these are perfect. They fit into your pocket like Walkman-style earbuds and can be deployed easily and inconspicuously. They're not easy to find but worth the search.

Here they are (http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=Hf837NVoNc833OsUCYs955pnOvV92L8sPLs=?CatalogCategoryID=&ProductID=XXUKC0%2eNAvMAAAD0mDu3txA6&Dept=pa) on the Sony site.

Don Palomaki
March 22nd, 2003, 05:51 AM
In the consumer line, the Sony MDR-V600 sound good and are comfortable. I find they work well with the XL1, especially if tripod mounted. They are a bit bulky (and the cord is long) for normal handheld shooting.

Christopher Hughes
March 22nd, 2003, 04:01 PM
I too hate earplugs, every time I get them with minidisc walkmans I give them away! They hurt your ears and are too big to fit good. But I have seem the fotopia's and had my eye on them. They are so small, what I wanted years ago. I'm very very tempted to buy some soon as I get some cash.

I currently use Senneheiser closed-back which I love! The germans know a thing or two when it comes to music. I use them for my mini-discman especially on the Metro or trains, as well as for cameras. Yeah Im the geek type so see with big headphones on the trains and streets. Quality no appreance for me! The ones I have I got cheap from a music place here called Richer Sounds...so would be around 65 dollars. Its a lot of money...but are they worth it....yes!!! The cable disconnects so you can repalce it with any legnth to suit your needs or better quality cable. I have used lots of headphones over the years and would honestly never go back to cheaper headphones....like it all you get what you pay for. I previously used a pair of amazing AKGs, which I found in a bargin bin at a hi-fi store for £10 ($15) WOW! I felt like a criminal robbing the shop, so cheap for what were really expensive headphones, I hope some young shop assistant didnt loose his job over them. The eventually gave up the ghost, and I wish I had bought them all from the bargin bin. So you never know what smaller backstreet stores can unfold.

I would really recommend taking in your camera to the hi-fi store and trying out all the headphones first. Get ones that sound good to you. And dont make the mistake of buying the best quality, only to later find they are uncomfortable. No two pairs of ears are alike, so get comfortable ones, cos you could use them for hours. And uncomfortable ones, make your ears all sweaty and ichy and drive you mad.

I wish I knew someone that has the Fotopias so I could try them....they look smart for portable use. Those that have them? What are the like to use in hot, humid areas? They "breathable" on your ears?

Ken Tanaka
March 22nd, 2003, 07:34 PM
<<<-- Originally posted by Christopher Hughes : Those that have them? What are the like to use in hot, humid areas? They "breathable" on your ears? -->>>

Heat is not an issue with these ear buds. They fit into your ear, not on it.

Don Palomaki
March 23rd, 2003, 06:33 AM
Anyone ever try the noise-canceling earbuds from Sony ((MDR-NC11) with a camcorder?

Christopher Hughes
March 23rd, 2003, 01:44 PM
Just some earplugs just hurt your ears and make them really itchy especially when hot, maybe just cos cheap ones never fit properly, and movement makes ur ears sore. So from what it seems they fit really nicely into your ears then, rather than half in / half out??? Nice and tight inside canal entrance.

Nori Wentworth
March 24th, 2003, 11:12 AM
Don,

I have tried the noise cancelling headphones with my XL-1. They sounded the worst out of all of the headphones I have tested. They also didn't sound very good for music. I think the only situation they are actually intended for, is watching dvds on airplanes or in loud vehicles.

-Nori

Andrew Petrie
March 25th, 2003, 09:03 AM
I got a set of Fontopias long ago, with a walkman from Europe. 8-10 years ago, so they aren't new. They have taken their sweet time to get to North America though. Excellent sound for the size, I'll definatley get another set (being buds they broke a while back :)

I also have a set of Sennheiser 570s, but too bulky. I keep those for the editing room. Those are the best headphones I've ever purchased.

Ram Nagarajan
March 26th, 2003, 08:09 AM
Josh, I think Keith has it right: Go for a pair that covers your ears snugly, and sits comfortably yet snugly.
I've got a pair of Sennheiser HD 25s which I use with my PD150 and a Shure FP33 mixer unit. I've found them very rugged, very dependable, good in high ambient noise situations, and comfortable to wear for extended periods of time (which is saying a lot in North Indian summer conditions - 42 to 47 celsius May through June!)
And, oh, the sound quality is simply fabulous - it's a pleasure to use them with agood mic lic the Sennheiser 416!
My two bits...
Ram

Josh Bass
March 26th, 2003, 12:02 PM
Sounds good. What are we lookin' at money wise here?

Ram Nagarajan
March 27th, 2003, 08:05 AM
Ooh, now you've aked the dangerous question! :-)
I think the HD-25 is available for about US$250 (need to check on this - while I try to get more accurate figures, you could ask your local distributor. You can get a name and contact details, as well as more info at http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm_eng.nsf/root/products_headphones_professionals_02976?Open&row=7
(this is the link to the HD-25 page on the Sennheiser site)
There is a lower cost version of this headphone availabel called the HD-25SP...but I wasn't very happy with it. That one's for about US$100 - 125.
They do have several other headphones - even if you are on a budget, I'd recommend you try out some Sennheisers. I've been using them for a long time, and they've never given me trouble.
Hope this helps!
Ram