Apple HDV Support coming 1/11? at DVinfo.net

Kyle Harmon · December 31st, 2004, 11:53 AM

Steve Jobs is expected (rumored) to announce several new products during his keynote speech at MacWorld Expo San Francisco on January 11th. Among other things, Think Secret is reporting that a new version of iMovie dubbed iMovie HD, will feature support for the HDV format ...

http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0412expo1.html

This is only a rumor at this time, but it provides hope that some time in the not-so-distant future, Apple will fully (and natively) support HDV in Final Cut Pro.

Just thought I'd pass that along.

Heath McKnight · December 31st, 2004, 12:48 PM

www.macrumors.com is saying there will be that and a "headless" iMac at under $600.

heath

Jed Williamson · January 1st, 2005, 02:48 PM

Apple.com has a special for FC express for $99 with the purchase of a new mac.

Maybe a clue that a new program is coming is that the deal ends January 10th.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...12.1.21.1.17.0

Dave Perry · January 1st, 2005, 02:51 PM

Thinksecret.com and macrumors.com both have an excellent record as far as rumor reliability goes so I am pretty excited about what I read on these sites.

Heath McKnight · January 1st, 2005, 06:15 PM

I'm a big fan of Mac Minute. They're off for the Holidays, but will return soon. Let's see what they have to report on this stuff!

heath

ps-Plus iCell Phone...

John C. Chu · January 3rd, 2005, 03:00 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Kyle Harmon : Steve Jobs is expected (rumored) Among other things, Think Secret is reporting that a new version of iMovie dubbed iMovie HD, will feature support for the HDV format ...

http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0412expo1.html

This is only a rumor at this time, but it provides hope that some time in the not-so-distant future, Apple will fully (and natively) support HDV in Final Cut Pro.
>>>

I've read that too...but it sounds a bit too early and hard to believe...

So you can edit in iMovie HDV....then what?

Encode in some HD format and burn it on DVD and play it from your Mac to a HDTV set?
(reason for the headless $499 Macintosh video-device?)

Or just export to a DVHS deck? or back to the camera(that would be nice)

I seriously doubt iMovie will get support before the pro applications...

but if it does happen...

Apple does it again! I would love to believe this rumor--cause it helps ease the entry point price for editing HDV...

Heath McKnight · January 3rd, 2005, 03:19 PM

I agree with the point that why would Apple release consumer support for HDV before pro support, unless (as a friend of mine is speculating) iMovie compresses it moreso, and making it less pro-friendly. Which begs the question from me, a non-iMovie user (it's tough as I've been using FCP since version 1.0), does iMovie capture QuickTime video files similar to Final Cut Pro's, or does iMovie make it a little bit of a lower quality than FCP when it captures?

heath

Joshua Starnes · January 3rd, 2005, 03:29 PM

iMovie captures QuickTime more or less the same as FCP. It captures as a DV stream, but there is not qualitative difference.

So you can edit in iMovie HDV....then what?

Encode in some HD format and burn it on DVD and play it from your Mac to a HDTV set?
(reason for the headless $499 Macintosh video-device?)

I don't get questions like this, I really don't. Just because you originally captured in HD doesn't mean you have to show it in HD. If you capture in a better resolution and color and whatnot your work will look good even in SD. Sure it will look better on an HDTV, but you don't have to have one of those to watch it or distribute. You could easily make your own SD DVD from the HD source and it will still look far better than SD and give you a good shot at direct-to-video distribution. What are you complaining about?

Thomas Ferlauto · January 5th, 2005, 03:59 PM

Apple just sued Think Secret for disclosing trade secrets so they must be on to something.

It is just like Apple to declare HDV to be a consumer format and provide support in iMovie before FCP -- which is for real HD, not HD lite.

Robert Mann Z. · January 5th, 2005, 09:42 PM

just got back from apple today, i actually saw the headless mac, i was not supposed to see it, it is very small, that rumor is dead on...it was explained to me they built these due to pressure from wall street, a perfect applcation would the education market, they are small enough to fit a desk draw where a teaher can lock them up for the night ...

...i also saw the two new ipod flash players...i can't say much about them due to chris making me use my real name here, except i think they are terrible, they are designed to save money, and operating them was not easy for me (i'm an ipod user)...don't bother wasting $100 bucks on these, save and get a iriver or ipod, or use your cell phoe

ohh by the way hdv is coming to the fcp .... :)

Rob Moreno · January 5th, 2005, 10:41 PM

"ohh by the way hdv is coming to the fcp .... :)"

This will be a free upgrade, right?

Christopher C. Murphy · January 6th, 2005, 07:16 AM

Robert, can you pleeeeeeeaaaaaassssssse give more information about the FCP HDV timeframe and/or how it's going to work??

If you can't say anything publicly can you email me?? I would appreciate it very much! chris.murphy@willowstudios.com

Thanks man!

Murph

Robert Mann Z. · January 6th, 2005, 10:53 AM

Chris i saw a working copy, i have no idea when it will be released, and even if i did i could not tell you, but , i imagine this month, then again they showed a working copy at one of the trade shows last year as well, i guess we will both have to sit and wait till next week to see for sure

Christopher C. Murphy · January 6th, 2005, 11:02 AM

If it's this month I'll be a happy camper. :)

Ignacio Rodriguez · January 6th, 2005, 11:44 AM

> ohh by the way hdv is coming to the fcp

It was about time.

December 31st, 2004, 11:53 AM	#1
Kyle Harmon Tourist Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4	Apple HDV Support coming 1/11? Steve Jobs is expected (rumored) to announce several new products during his keynote speech at MacWorld Expo San Francisco on January 11th. Among other things, Think Secret is reporting that a new version of iMovie dubbed iMovie HD, will feature support for the HDV format ... http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0412expo1.html This is only a rumor at this time, but it provides hope that some time in the not-so-distant future, Apple will fully (and natively) support HDV in Final Cut Pro. Just thought I'd pass that along.

December 31st, 2004, 12:48 PM	#2
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	www.macrumors.com is saying there will be that and a "headless" iMac at under $600. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

January 1st, 2005, 02:51 PM	#4
Dave Perry Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 796	Thinksecret.com and macrumors.com both have an excellent record as far as rumor reliability goes so I am pretty excited about what I read on these sites. __________________ Dave Perry Cinematographer LLC Director of Photography • Editor • Digital Film Production • 540.915.2752 • daveperry.net

January 1st, 2005, 06:15 PM	#5
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I'm a big fan of Mac Minute. They're off for the Holidays, but will return soon. Let's see what they have to report on this stuff! heath ps-Plus iCell Phone... __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

January 3rd, 2005, 03:00 PM	#6
John C. Chu Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rego Park , NYC Posts: 665	Re: Apple HDV Support coming 1/11? <<<-- Originally posted by Kyle Harmon : Steve Jobs is expected (rumored) Among other things, Think Secret is reporting that a new version of iMovie dubbed iMovie HD, will feature support for the HDV format ... http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0412expo1.html This is only a rumor at this time, but it provides hope that some time in the not-so-distant future, Apple will fully (and natively) support HDV in Final Cut Pro. >>> I've read that too...but it sounds a bit too early and hard to believe... So you can edit in iMovie HDV....then what? Encode in some HD format and burn it on DVD and play it from your Mac to a HDTV set? (reason for the headless $499 Macintosh video-device?) Or just export to a DVHS deck? or back to the camera(that would be nice) I seriously doubt iMovie will get support before the pro applications... but if it does happen... Apple does it again! I would love to believe this rumor--cause it helps ease the entry point price for editing HDV...

January 1st, 2005, 02:48 PM	#3
Jed Williamson Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 175	Apple.com has a special for FC express for $99 with the purchase of a new mac. Maybe a clue that a new program is coming is that the deal ends January 10th. http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...12.1.21.1.17.0

January 3rd, 2005, 03:19 PM	#7
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I agree with the point that why would Apple release consumer support for HDV before pro support, unless (as a friend of mine is speculating) iMovie compresses it moreso, and making it less pro-friendly. Which begs the question from me, a non-iMovie user (it's tough as I've been using FCP since version 1.0), does iMovie capture QuickTime video files similar to Final Cut Pro's, or does iMovie make it a little bit of a lower quality than FCP when it captures? heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

January 3rd, 2005, 03:29 PM	#8
Joshua Starnes Major Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 356	iMovie captures QuickTime more or less the same as FCP. It captures as a DV stream, but there is not qualitative difference. So you can edit in iMovie HDV....then what? Encode in some HD format and burn it on DVD and play it from your Mac to a HDTV set? (reason for the headless $499 Macintosh video-device?) I don't get questions like this, I really don't. Just because you originally captured in HD doesn't mean you have to show it in HD. If you capture in a better resolution and color and whatnot your work will look good even in SD. Sure it will look better on an HDTV, but you don't have to have one of those to watch it or distribute. You could easily make your own SD DVD from the HD source and it will still look far better than SD and give you a good shot at direct-to-video distribution. What are you complaining about?

January 5th, 2005, 03:59 PM	#9
Thomas Ferlauto New Boot Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 24	Apple just sued Think Secret for disclosing trade secrets so they must be on to something. It is just like Apple to declare HDV to be a consumer format and provide support in iMovie before FCP -- which is for real HD, not HD lite.

January 5th, 2005, 09:42 PM	#10
Robert Mann Z. Skyonic New York Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 614	just got back from apple today, i actually saw the headless mac, i was not supposed to see it, it is very small, that rumor is dead on...it was explained to me they built these due to pressure from wall street, a perfect applcation would the education market, they are small enough to fit a desk draw where a teaher can lock them up for the night ... ...i also saw the two new ipod flash players...i can't say much about them due to chris making me use my real name here, except i think they are terrible, they are designed to save money, and operating them was not easy for me (i'm an ipod user)...don't bother wasting $100 bucks on these, save and get a iriver or ipod, or use your cell phoe ohh by the way hdv is coming to the fcp .... :)

January 5th, 2005, 10:41 PM	#11
Rob Moreno Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Tokyo Posts: 102	"ohh by the way hdv is coming to the fcp .... :)" This will be a free upgrade, right? __________________ Media Kobo Japan

January 6th, 2005, 07:16 AM	#12
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	Robert, can you pleeeeeeeaaaaaassssssse give more information about the FCP HDV timeframe and/or how it's going to work?? If you can't say anything publicly can you email me?? I would appreciate it very much! chris.murphy@willowstudios.com Thanks man! Murph __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

January 6th, 2005, 10:53 AM	#13
Robert Mann Z. Skyonic New York Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 614	Chris i saw a working copy, i have no idea when it will be released, and even if i did i could not tell you, but , i imagine this month, then again they showed a working copy at one of the trade shows last year as well, i guess we will both have to sit and wait till next week to see for sure

January 6th, 2005, 11:02 AM	#14
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	If it's this month I'll be a happy camper. :) __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

January 6th, 2005, 11:44 AM	#15
Ignacio Rodriguez Contributor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 932	> ohh by the way hdv is coming to the fcp It was about time. __________________ Ignacio Rodríguez in the third world. @micronauta on Twitter. Main hardware: brain, eyes, hands.