Official Letter from Chris Hurd (not Michael Pappas) at DVinfo.net

Michael Pappas · May 2nd, 2005, 11:12 PM

Cleared off.

Admin's note -- Michael did his own clearing... none of us edited him. (CH)

Jarred Land · May 3rd, 2005, 12:00 AM

Sorry in advance Chris.. don't mean to muck up your clean house over here with all our garbage :(

John Hudson · May 3rd, 2005, 12:54 AM

Chris

While we are here hangin in your pad with our drama; you got a Corona?

Jarred Land · May 3rd, 2005, 12:58 AM

John.. I think in texas they only drink Celis.

Brian Wells · May 3rd, 2005, 01:05 AM

Ohh, I'll drink anything except American Budweiser. Perhaps the original Budweiser product (as manufactured for the last 1000 years in the Czech Republic) but definitely not the "watery" substance produced domestically.

Aaron Koolen · May 3rd, 2005, 04:15 AM

Chris, I don't know why Michael's posts are "cleared off", but if he's trying to defend himself, can he be allowed to post? If his posts are offensive or more of the "same" he's been accused of (And under these circumstances, I fully understand why you wouldn't want this crap aired here) can the thread be deleted? Otherwise it seems onesided...I'm not taking sides, just curious as a user on both DVXUser and here as to why this has gone so damned crazy!

Aaron

Peter Jefferson · May 3rd, 2005, 04:23 AM

No Offense guys, but i too am a member of dvxuser, as well as dv info.. i also run my own tech forum in aus with over 35k members and i have to tell you, the bahaviour im seeing here is like a schoolyard.

considering the level of intelligence here on this board as well as dvxuser, i would have expected better, and to not bring baggage frmo one site over to this site.

like i said, i run a forum with over 35k members (www.austech.info) and i do not have this problem. Not because of the rules which are set, but for the respect my community has within itself and with other likeminded forums.

Its not polite to drag a fight out to another site as things blow out of proportion and people specualte on heresay.

all i can say is that this behaviour is quite simply, pathetic.
Within this industry, its appalling..

Irrespective of who was right or wrong, your all old enough to know better.

Some of you are professionals, while others are hobbyists and others students, but that is of no consequence here.

The fact that your bringing your crap into this backyard is...

If i was a mod, id be deleting this thread and any thread associated with this faceless "hide behind the monitor" political bullshit.

we all have one uiltimate goal, and that is to provide a community full of resources. Lets not lose focus on what these forums are all about.

Aaron Koolen · May 3rd, 2005, 04:30 AM

Peter, I agree. The thread should be nuked.

Aaron

Chris Hurd · May 3rd, 2005, 03:36 PM

Howdy from Texas,

For Aaron, yes, normally this kind of thread would be nuked, but Peter Jefferson makes some excellent points that are well worth reading, so I've pruned it down to the essential posts and moved it to... where else? Area 51, of course.

Also Aaron, Michael cleared his own messages. I wasn't even aware of this mess until I woke up this morning. Remember I'm two time zones ahead of the West Coast where all this went down; so it was way past my bedtime when this deal fired up.

Now for the most important part... about the beer... *ahem*

Jarred's from Vancouver, so I wouldn't expect him to know this, but the National Beer of Texas is well known to Texans but practically unheard of anywhere else. And it is... (drumroll please):

Shiner Bock, of course!

When we eventually host the Official DV Info Net Jamboree and BBQ down here one of these days, and all y'all are invited, we'll have buckets and buckets of icy-cold Shiner Bock for your enjoyment -- and then you'll see what the big deal is all about! Looking forward to it,

May 2nd, 2005, 11:12 PM	#1
Michael Pappas Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: California Posts: 667	cleared Cleared off. Admin's note -- Michael did his own clearing... none of us edited him. (CH)

May 3rd, 2005, 04:15 AM	#6
Aaron Koolen Trustee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,727	Chris, I don't know why Michael's posts are "cleared off", but if he's trying to defend himself, can he be allowed to post? If his posts are offensive or more of the "same" he's been accused of (And under these circumstances, I fully understand why you wouldn't want this crap aired here) can the thread be deleted? Otherwise it seems onesided...I'm not taking sides, just curious as a user on both DVXUser and here as to why this has gone so damned crazy! Aaron __________________ My Website Meat Free Media

May 3rd, 2005, 04:30 AM	#8
Aaron Koolen Trustee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,727	Peter, I agree. The thread should be nuked. Aaron __________________ My Website Meat Free Media

May 3rd, 2005, 03:36 PM	#9
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Howdy from Texas, For Aaron, yes, normally this kind of thread would be nuked, but Peter Jefferson makes some excellent points that are well worth reading, so I've pruned it down to the essential posts and moved it to... where else? Area 51, of course. Also Aaron, Michael cleared his own messages. I wasn't even aware of this mess until I woke up this morning. Remember I'm two time zones ahead of the West Coast where all this went down; so it was way past my bedtime when this deal fired up. Now for the most important part... about the beer... ahem Jarred's from Vancouver, so I wouldn't expect him to know this, but the National Beer of Texas is well known to Texans but practically unheard of anywhere else. And it is... (drumroll please): Shiner Bock, of course! When we eventually host the Official DV Info Net Jamboree and BBQ down here one of these days, and all y'all are invited, we'll have buckets and buckets of icy-cold Shiner Bock for your enjoyment -- and then you'll see what the big deal is all about! Looking forward to it, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

May 3rd, 2005, 12:00 AM	#2
Jarred Land DVX User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vancouver Posts: 281	Sorry in advance Chris.. don't mean to muck up your clean house over here with all our garbage :(

May 3rd, 2005, 12:54 AM	#3
John Hudson Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 32° 44' N 117° 10' W Posts: 820	Chris While we are here hangin in your pad with our drama; you got a Corona?

May 3rd, 2005, 12:58 AM	#4
Jarred Land DVX User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vancouver Posts: 281	John.. I think in texas they only drink Celis.

May 3rd, 2005, 01:05 AM	#5
Brian Wells Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 143	Ohh, I'll drink anything except American Budweiser. Perhaps the original Budweiser product (as manufactured for the last 1000 years in the Czech Republic) but definitely not the "watery" substance produced domestically.

May 3rd, 2005, 04:23 AM	#7
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	No Offense guys, but i too am a member of dvxuser, as well as dv info.. i also run my own tech forum in aus with over 35k members and i have to tell you, the bahaviour im seeing here is like a schoolyard. considering the level of intelligence here on this board as well as dvxuser, i would have expected better, and to not bring baggage frmo one site over to this site. like i said, i run a forum with over 35k members (www.austech.info) and i do not have this problem. Not because of the rules which are set, but for the respect my community has within itself and with other likeminded forums. Its not polite to drag a fight out to another site as things blow out of proportion and people specualte on heresay. all i can say is that this behaviour is quite simply, pathetic. Within this industry, its appalling.. Irrespective of who was right or wrong, your all old enough to know better. Some of you are professionals, while others are hobbyists and others students, but that is of no consequence here. The fact that your bringing your crap into this backyard is... If i was a mod, id be deleting this thread and any thread associated with this faceless "hide behind the monitor" political bullshit. we all have one uiltimate goal, and that is to provide a community full of resources. Lets not lose focus on what these forums are all about.