Any Available or Anticipated 720p AVCHD Cams? at DVinfo.net

David Saraceno · August 26th, 2007, 11:49 AM

Other than the Apitek?

I know the spec supports it, but all I've seen, and there are few are 1080p AVCHD cams.

David Saraceno · August 28th, 2007, 10:07 AM

No one knows?

I believe the HG-10 will shoot 1080p, but no 720p.

Wish this were as simple as a firmware update.

Chris Hurd · August 28th, 2007, 10:17 AM

All Canon HD camcorders regardless of format (HDV or AVCHD) are 1080i.

I'm unaware of any AVCHD camcorders from the major manufacturers doing 720p.

David Saraceno · August 28th, 2007, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

All Canon HD camcorders regardless of format (HDV or AVCHD) are 1080i.

I'm unaware of any AVCHD camcorders from the major manufacturers doing 720p.

"The HG10 features true 24P, a tip of the hat to aspiring low budget filmmakers who aim for that movie look."

Luc Fender · August 28th, 2007, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by David Saraceno

Thanks Chris for your remarks. However, this review indicates that the HG-10 is capable of shooting 24P, albeit at 1080:

"The HG10 features true 24P, a tip of the hat to aspiring low budget filmmakers who aim for that movie look."

That's not the same as 720p which you originally mentioned. 24p indicates 24 progressive frames per second.

You can always convert 1080i to 720p so not sure what you're looking for.
The review doesn't say the HG10 is capable of 1080p. The 24p mode is recorded in 1080i mode using pulldown.

David Saraceno · August 28th, 2007, 10:56 AM

I am aware of that.

24p is always recorded in 1080i with pulldown. True of the HVX200 as well.

Workflow then would be to capture 1080i, and then use Compressor to transcode to 720p/24 with the frame deinterlacer -- which takes a bunch of time.

Wish there was a different solution

Wayne Morellini · August 29th, 2007, 01:09 PM

They have an even cheaper camera now, I have an thread in news. Kodak has announced an number of models (I think I might have posted in news). Samsung has announced an 720p camera that might have 50/60p, I think it is still on front page of ccinfo.

Digilife has an HD pocket camera.

But I have not seen an 720p AVCHD camera. Hopefully somebody releases one based on the Ambarella chip, which is supposed to be very good in h264 encoding.

Serge Victorovich · August 29th, 2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayne Morellini

But I have not seen an 720p AVCHD camera. Hopefully somebody releases one based on the Ambarella chip, which is supposed to be very good in h264 encoding.

Aiptek Go-HD camcorder based on the Ambarella chip.
Samsung possible too. :)

Wayne Morellini · August 30th, 2007, 07:03 AM

h264, not avchd version, but not really an disadvantage.

Wayne Morellini · August 30th, 2007, 08:20 AM

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...807#post736807

Does 1080i and 720p60.

August 26th, 2007, 11:49 AM	#1
David Saraceno Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Inland Northwest Posts: 490	Any Available or Anticipated 720p AVCHD Cams? Other than the Apitek? I know the spec supports it, but all I've seen, and there are few are 1080p AVCHD cams.

August 28th, 2007, 10:17 AM	#3
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	All Canon HD camcorders regardless of format (HDV or AVCHD) are 1080i. I'm unaware of any AVCHD camcorders from the major manufacturers doing 720p. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

August 30th, 2007, 08:20 AM	#10
Wayne Morellini Inner Circle Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,762	It is here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...807#post736807 Does 1080i and 720p60.

August 28th, 2007, 10:07 AM	#2
David Saraceno Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Inland Northwest Posts: 490	No one knows? I believe the HG-10 will shoot 1080p, but no 720p. Wish this were as simple as a firmware update.

August 28th, 2007, 10:56 AM	#6
David Saraceno Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Inland Northwest Posts: 490	I am aware of that. 24p is always recorded in 1080i with pulldown. True of the HVX200 as well. Workflow then would be to capture 1080i, and then use Compressor to transcode to 720p/24 with the frame deinterlacer -- which takes a bunch of time. Wish there was a different solution

August 29th, 2007, 01:09 PM	#7
Wayne Morellini Inner Circle Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,762	They have an even cheaper camera now, I have an thread in news. Kodak has announced an number of models (I think I might have posted in news). Samsung has announced an 720p camera that might have 50/60p, I think it is still on front page of ccinfo. Digilife has an HD pocket camera. But I have not seen an 720p AVCHD camera. Hopefully somebody releases one based on the Ambarella chip, which is supposed to be very good in h264 encoding.

August 30th, 2007, 07:03 AM	#9
Wayne Morellini Inner Circle Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,762	h264, not avchd version, but not really an disadvantage.