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Larry Horwitz January 25th, 2009 07:48 AM

Kenny,

I watched the video and easily see the problem you are referring to.

I need to understand more about what you are doing with Power Director here.

First, if you are using a Canon HV20, your video is not AVCHD but is actually in an HDV format, which is a different method of creating HD video.

Next, in Power Director, you have a variety of choices when you use the Production Wizard to "produce" a video as you did.

Did you output as a File using Windows Media File, Quick Time, or Real Video format, or did you create a streaming output? Each of these 2 choices has several options as well.

Depending on which type of output file you created from Power Director, a major difference in the conversion takes place. I need to know what you are doing to make these web files before offering a way to fix it.

Please describe your process.

Larry

Kenny Morrow January 25th, 2009 06:25 PM

Larry,

First off, I appreciate the time you are taking to respond.

The video that you watched was neither of those. I think it was an Mpeg-4, but I am not sure again. I can check and let you know. I did do one in Windows Media File, and I thought it turned out a little better, but it seemed jumpy watching it and the quality did not seem that great. Here is the URL for that one...2008 Summer Table Rock Trip on Vimeo

Maybe you could give me your thoughts on how you would do it using the camera that I have.

Thanks,
Kenny

Kenny Morrow January 25th, 2009 06:35 PM

I went back and checked the video out after my last post on here and it didn't look too bad. When I watched it the first time after I initially uploaded it to the site it was worse. I can live with the way it is now, although I would like it to be of better quality and less jumpy. If you have any other suggestions, they would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Kenny

Larry Horwitz January 25th, 2009 10:58 PM

Kenny,

I am glad to try to help you. This is a complex topic so I ask for you to also do some research on your own as well, but here is a way to start.

Converting HD content for viewing on the web has several important issues:

1. What is the format your original video is in?


2. What format(s) will the web server (such as Vimio) accept?

3. What type of playback computer will your viewers be using to see your video?

4. How large is the maximum file size your server will allow?

5. What is the playing time of your video?

As a Vimeo user, for example, you are only allowed up to 500 MB per week as an upload. If you pay Vimeo for their deluxe service they allow you much bigger files. A long video clip will need to be compressed more to fit the file size limit than a short clip. A slower computer will stutter when trying to play back 1280 by 720p video at too high a bitrate.

If your camcorder is HDV, you are probably best off converting the file yourself to 1280 by 720 h.264 since this is the format Vimeo ultimately uses.

Since the specific choice of settings for a particular video may differ for one set of conditions versus another, there is no single "best" solution, but a simple "cookbook" method of dealing with Vimeo for HD may be the best place for your to start.

I encourage you to look carefully at each of the 6 steps shown at:

http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/images/powerdirector.png

Be sure to use NTSC (and not PAL) even though the example shows PAL.

Please try this approach and let me / us know how well you results are, and we will work from there.

You might also benefit from reading:

http://vimeo.com/forums/topic:3671

and you may wish to post your request for help directly within the Vimeo forum at:

http://vimeo.com/forum:Technical_Help


Larry

Kenny Morrow January 27th, 2009 05:11 PM

Larry, thanks again for the help. I don't really have the knowledge that you do on this topic and wish that I did. I will have to read into some of the things you suggested when I get time. I think it will be a slow process since I have no background with this type of topic, but I am interested in it. Until then, the way I am doing it now will work. Thanks again for help and ideas.

Kenny

Larry Horwitz January 27th, 2009 09:46 PM

Kenny,

If your problem persists, follow the 6 steps in this cookbook approach and it hopefully will solve your problem:

http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/images/powerdirector.png

Although I suggested this in my prior reply above, I probably gave you way more information that you want or need. This 6 step approach should fix you up.

Good luck and hope this helps,

Larry

Kenny Morrow January 30th, 2009 05:16 PM

Larry,

Thanks again for the suggestions. I have not had a chance to edit anything yet, but I will definitely look that link over before starting my next project.

Kenny

Peter Holzel February 3rd, 2009 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Horwitz (Post 993190)
There was quite a bit of discussion of this issue in another thread on this forum between me and a couple other people, and the bottom line was that the "glitch" / "blip" issue was mostly solved with a patch released last year by Corel for VS Pro X2, but it was not entirely corrected. Those of us who use VS X2 Pro to do 30p AVCHD never see the issue whereas those using 60i usually do see it, but it is not glaring. Possibly this is the reason for some having an issue and others like myself not having an issue?

Hi Larry, after patching VSX2, I still get blips from 30p material as well as 60i. I agree that it is not a glaring issue for a lot of shots. But, for cuts in footage where there is a lot of motion (eg. cutting on a pan of a mountain range), I would define it as a glaring issue.

Larry Horwitz February 3rd, 2009 02:47 PM

Peter,

As my original post on another thread nearly 2 months ago stated to you:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Horwitz (Post 976325)
Glad to help Mike!

Since Peter Holzel and others have encountered a nasty bug in Corel Video Studio X2Pro which creates a short "blip" at the splice where clips, transitions, and some other effects are joined, a patch has been unofficially posted on a user forum which apparently solves the problem for some but not all users.

I repeat this posting with the caveat that this is both unofficial as well as (apparently) only a partial fix, since AVCHD files from some brands / models of camcorders may not work yet even if the patch is installed.

Here it is:



-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
ftp://private.ulead.com.tw/VSX2PROPATCH.exe
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=



I am hoping that Peter Holzel continues to read this thread and downloads the patch. I am also curious to hear how his PS3 experiments have come out.

Please do not question me as to how this patch works, when it works, etc. I am merely a messenger here, trying to help other users.

Larry

On January 11th, in another thread, Peter Paci commented:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Pacai (Post 993058)
I am using Corel on a weekly basis, "smart rendered" about 200 movies so there is definitely no bugs which are effecting my workflow.


I have NOT been seeing this problem either often or in a noticeable way. Apparently this is also true for Peter Pacai.

Thus, I do not consider this a glaring issue, but others such as yourself certainly may and do feel otherwise.

It is very clear to those who have used a variety of NLEs and hardware with different camcorders and different playback methods that a wide variety of glitches, bugs, and other defects are experienced but that not all of us are experiencing the same things. Welcome to the complex world of AVCHD......


Larry


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