Waiting for AVCHD camcorder that does proper 24p? at DVinfo.net

Khaled Abdulhamid · May 1st, 2009, 01:56 AM

I already own an HV30 camcorder and am quite satisfied... but the recent products with large sensors have superior image quality both in daylight and low light.... but the trouble is that 24p wrapped into 60i makes editing more difficult so I'm waiting for a camcorder (probably from canon) that uses avchd with proper 24p.... the question is do you think I shall wait for too long?
I live in a PAL region and my HV30 does 25p and upon editing with Corel videoStudio pro X2 into 24p to make blu ray for my PS3 display disturbs motion in a annoying way... motion gets interrupted every second by dropping a frame.... I'm planning for my next purchase to make it from US market to get proper 24p instead.... I wonder the pulldown removal for current versions in a program like VideoStudio will disturb motion the same way? any experiences?

Paulo Teixeira · May 1st, 2009, 03:04 PM

The Panasonic HS300/TM300 has the type of 24p mode that you want and if money is no option, The JVC HM100 has all recording modes from both Pal and NTSC I believe. By all means, correct me if I’m wrong.

Khaled Abdulhamid · May 2nd, 2009, 12:44 AM

It would be great to know that the panasonic has this function... however dose it make any difference that it records at a maximum bitrate of 17Mb/s while the canon maxes at 24?

Keith Moreau · May 2nd, 2009, 11:57 PM

I don't have the new Panasonic TM300 but I have the SD100 which has 24P and I personally find that in 24P mode isn't acceptable because for whatever reason the images are very coarse. to me it's as if the footage is de-interlaced inside the camera to 24P from 60i or something.

I recently got the Canon HFS100 and find the Progressive modes to be beautiful, although I've mostly just shot at 30P. I'm really liking the Canon HFS100 images and overall I'm getting used to the interface. However I can't stand the AVCHD workflow, at least on the Mac and Final Cut Pro. You have to transcode to Prores, which is time consuming and the resultant file sizes are huge. For this reason I'm considering the JVC HM100 which uses the XDCAM EX codec which is as manageable on computers as HDV. The JVC will also do 24P and probably does it well.

May 1st, 2009, 01:56 AM	#1
Khaled Abdulhamid New Boot Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cairo, Egypt Posts: 12	Waiting for AVCHD camcorder that does proper 24p? I already own an HV30 camcorder and am quite satisfied... but the recent products with large sensors have superior image quality both in daylight and low light.... but the trouble is that 24p wrapped into 60i makes editing more difficult so I'm waiting for a camcorder (probably from canon) that uses avchd with proper 24p.... the question is do you think I shall wait for too long? I live in a PAL region and my HV30 does 25p and upon editing with Corel videoStudio pro X2 into 24p to make blu ray for my PS3 display disturbs motion in a annoying way... motion gets interrupted every second by dropping a frame.... I'm planning for my next purchase to make it from US market to get proper 24p instead.... I wonder the pulldown removal for current versions in a program like VideoStudio will disturb motion the same way? any experiences?

May 1st, 2009, 03:04 PM	#2
Paulo Teixeira Trustee Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	The Panasonic HS300/TM300 has the type of 24p mode that you want and if money is no option, The JVC HM100 has all recording modes from both Pal and NTSC I believe. By all means, correct me if I’m wrong. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/PhotoVi...esEtc/featured https://www.pond5.com/artist/paulot

May 2nd, 2009, 12:44 AM	#3
Khaled Abdulhamid New Boot Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cairo, Egypt Posts: 12	It would be great to know that the panasonic has this function... however dose it make any difference that it records at a maximum bitrate of 17Mb/s while the canon maxes at 24?

May 2nd, 2009, 11:57 PM	#4
Keith Moreau Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane, California Posts: 530	I don't have the new Panasonic TM300 but I have the SD100 which has 24P and I personally find that in 24P mode isn't acceptable because for whatever reason the images are very coarse. to me it's as if the footage is de-interlaced inside the camera to 24P from 60i or something. I recently got the Canon HFS100 and find the Progressive modes to be beautiful, although I've mostly just shot at 30P. I'm really liking the Canon HFS100 images and overall I'm getting used to the interface. However I can't stand the AVCHD workflow, at least on the Mac and Final Cut Pro. You have to transcode to Prores, which is time consuming and the resultant file sizes are huge. For this reason I'm considering the JVC HM100 which uses the XDCAM EX codec which is as manageable on computers as HDV. The JVC will also do 24P and probably does it well.