Avid on Mac via Bootcamp at DVinfo.net

Devin Termini · August 11th, 2008, 03:50 PM

Hello all,

On a mac, has anyone used bootcamp to run Avid MC on Windows XP? I know it's not supported by Avid, but would it work?

Michael Wisniewski · August 11th, 2008, 05:00 PM

Is there a reason you need to run it in XP? Because Avid Media Composer runs on the Mac.

Devin Termini · August 11th, 2008, 06:40 PM

It is said best in this forum thread:
http://community.avid.com/forums/t/60456.aspx

"Note that these Adrenaline and Mojo/Mojo SDI systems are NOT qualified on the current Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) due to an issue with the OS X 10.5 FireWire driver and therefore customers should NOT upgrade their OS X past 10.4.11. Further, new Apple workstations shipping with Max OS X 10.5 (Leopard) are NOT qualified with Adrenaline and Mojo classic systems. Customers wishing to use Avid hardware with the latest Apple hardware and software MUST upgrade to Avid Nitris DX and/or Avid Mojo DX hardware."

David Parks · August 11th, 2008, 07:13 PM

Devin,

If that is the case, I think you'll suffer in performance running XP in boot camp which as I understand is sort of an emulation mode so it is going to run slow, especially if you're also trying to power outboard I/O gear.

This is just my guess and I admit that I haven't tried running anything on the MAC via boot camp.

Good Luck

Richard Gooderick · August 12th, 2008, 03:07 AM

I run Windows XP using Parallels, but not for editing.
There isn't any reason why MC wouldn't run on it that I know of as long as the machine is powerful enough to run it via the emulator.
It is exactly the same as running XP on a PC.
I don't know how much the emulator affects performance. I use it mainly to run a database although I sometimes play back video files in XP too.

Craig Parkes · August 12th, 2008, 06:08 PM

Bootcamp is not an emulator - it's a separate partition that launches windows natively - effectively it's just like dual booting two different versions of Windows or Windows and Linux on a PC.

Assuming that the drivers and graphics package all work with whatever hardware you need to intergrate, once you have loaded bootcamp you effectively have both a PC and a Mac with the same specs.

In some benchmarking Mac's running bootcamp results in better performance than similiarly spec'd PCs.

Vito DeFilippo · August 19th, 2008, 08:09 AM

I have a brand new Macbook Pro 2.6G running Xpress Pro 5.7.2 on Windows XP.

Works fine.

David Parks · August 22nd, 2008, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vito DeFilippo

I have a brand new Macbook Pro 2.6G running Xpress Pro 5.7.2 on Windows XP.

Works fine.

Running on Bootcamp?? That's really cool Vito. I wonder if it would run on Parallels? I could switch between FCP suite on MAC OSX and Avid/AXP on XP?

Has anyone tried this??

Vito DeFilippo · August 22nd, 2008, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Parks

Running on Bootcamp??

Yep. Just downloaded 5.8.4 from Avid and installed it last night. Even better so far, cause 5.7.2 was defaulting to the legacy overlay mode, which sucked. 5.8.4 seems to like the video driver better.

Haven't done anything extensive yet, so I'm not sure it's bug free.

When I upgrade to Media Composer, I'll probably just install it to the Mac side (can't put 5.8.4 on Leopard).

Quote:

I wonder if it would run on Parallels?

Don't know about that, though I suspect it would run better with Bootcamp, since it's not an emulator.

Quote:

I could switch between FCP suite on MAC OSX and Avid/AXP on XP?

Yeah, I've got Final Cut Studio installed on the Mac side. Finally starting to learn it with a home movie project. I'll stick to Avid for my paying work for now.

Also, you can install MacFuse and NTFS-3g on the Mac side, and get full read/write ability to NTFS drives for free. I've successfully captured HDV footage to an external USB NTFS drive using Final Cut. Put MacDrive on the Windows side, and you have full access both ways from both OSes.

Vito DeFilippo · September 8th, 2008, 07:37 PM

By the way, I realize now that some versions of Avid on Bootcamp seem to not like MacDrive. With 5.8.4 I get an error on startup of the program and it refuses to load with MacDrive enabled.

Other than that, all seems well.

Michael Chenoweth · September 9th, 2008, 09:31 PM

As for running anything hard core video or photo editing on Parallels or Fusion, they're just not up to par. External drive support and dual monitors are two of the issues. I've tried Sony Vegas through Parallels, if more of the hardware was supported, may not be bad but not near as fast and safe IMO, as running it on a straight, clean Bootcamp XP partition.

August 11th, 2008, 03:50 PM	#1
Devin Termini Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mount Pleasant, MI Posts: 177	Avid on Mac via Bootcamp Hello all, On a mac, has anyone used bootcamp to run Avid MC on Windows XP? I know it's not supported by Avid, but would it work?

August 11th, 2008, 05:00 PM	#2
Michael Wisniewski Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Makati, Metro Manila Posts: 2,706 Images: 32	Is there a reason you need to run it in XP? Because Avid Media Composer runs on the Mac. __________________ "Ultimately, the most extraordinary thing, in a frame, is a human being." - Martin Scorsese

August 11th, 2008, 07:13 PM	#4
David Parks Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 789	Devin, If that is the case, I think you'll suffer in performance running XP in boot camp which as I understand is sort of an emulation mode so it is going to run slow, especially if you're also trying to power outboard I/O gear. This is just my guess and I admit that I haven't tried running anything on the MAC via boot camp. Good Luck __________________ David Parks: DP/Editor: Jacobs Aerospace at NASA Johnson Space Center https://www.youtube.com/user/JacobsESCG

August 12th, 2008, 03:07 AM	#5
Richard Gooderick Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 795	I run Windows XP using Parallels, but not for editing. There isn't any reason why MC wouldn't run on it that I know of as long as the machine is powerful enough to run it via the emulator. It is exactly the same as running XP on a PC. I don't know how much the emulator affects performance. I use it mainly to run a database although I sometimes play back video files in XP too. __________________ http://www.gooderick.com

August 19th, 2008, 08:09 AM	#7
Vito DeFilippo Trustee Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 1,585	I have a brand new Macbook Pro 2.6G running Xpress Pro 5.7.2 on Windows XP. Works fine. __________________ . http://www.nosmallroles.com

August 11th, 2008, 06:40 PM	#3
Devin Termini Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mount Pleasant, MI Posts: 177	It is said best in this forum thread: http://community.avid.com/forums/t/60456.aspx "Note that these Adrenaline and Mojo/Mojo SDI systems are NOT qualified on the current Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) due to an issue with the OS X 10.5 FireWire driver and therefore customers should NOT upgrade their OS X past 10.4.11. Further, new Apple workstations shipping with Max OS X 10.5 (Leopard) are NOT qualified with Adrenaline and Mojo classic systems. Customers wishing to use Avid hardware with the latest Apple hardware and software MUST upgrade to Avid Nitris DX and/or Avid Mojo DX hardware."

August 12th, 2008, 06:08 PM	#6
Craig Parkes Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 444	Bootcamp is not an emulator - it's a separate partition that launches windows natively - effectively it's just like dual booting two different versions of Windows or Windows and Linux on a PC. Assuming that the drivers and graphics package all work with whatever hardware you need to intergrate, once you have loaded bootcamp you effectively have both a PC and a Mac with the same specs. In some benchmarking Mac's running bootcamp results in better performance than similiarly spec'd PCs.

September 8th, 2008, 07:37 PM	#10
Vito DeFilippo Trustee Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 1,585	By the way, I realize now that some versions of Avid on Bootcamp seem to not like MacDrive. With 5.8.4 I get an error on startup of the program and it refuses to load with MacDrive enabled. Other than that, all seems well. __________________ . http://www.nosmallroles.com

September 9th, 2008, 09:31 PM	#11
Michael Chenoweth Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sandy, Utah Posts: 128	As for running anything hard core video or photo editing on Parallels or Fusion, they're just not up to par. External drive support and dual monitors are two of the issues. I've tried Sony Vegas through Parallels, if more of the hardware was supported, may not be bad but not near as fast and safe IMO, as running it on a straight, clean Bootcamp XP partition.