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Linda Schodowsky May 3rd, 2004 10:00 AM

Movies so bad, that they're actually..... good?
 
Since we got the "Movies that you like, but shouldn't have", and "Movies we didn't like" topics going on here... I thought a third thread was necessary. Actually, it could be a sub-topic of "Movies that you like, but shouldn't have". Anywho, I thought it to be worthy of it's own thread. Here goes...

First of all, any movie that appeared in Mystery Science Theater 3000 is worthy of this category.

Any Ed Woods movie.

My favorite "bad movie" of all time... Attack of the Killer Tomatoes!

Any others out there?

Keith Loh May 3rd, 2004 10:18 AM

The Core. A lot of it was intentionally bad as in "oh who cares, we'll piss off anyone who remembers half of what they learned in high school science" bad. So once you understood that, you could sit back and enjoy the cheesy adventure. It was fun!

Congo. It has Bruce Campbell. It has apes, talking apes, guns, dictators, ancient treasure, lazers and guns. They don't really stay still too long so it strikes the right tone of bad-ness that you enjoy it. Favourite moment. All the porters know the words to "California Dreaming".

Linda Schodowsky May 3rd, 2004 03:54 PM

Got another two...

Boxing Helena and The Brady Bunch Movie.

Rob Lohman May 3rd, 2004 03:56 PM

Mars Attacks?

Marco Leavitt May 3rd, 2004 07:28 PM

I'd say Boxing Helena is so bad it's bad. My vote goes to anything on Lifetime. I love that channel, maybe because my lighting attempts don't look so artificial after watching those movies. I just watched one tonight about a woman who kidnaps her daughter who is a prostitute. "I like doing it mom, and guess what. I'm damn good at it!"

John Hudson May 3rd, 2004 11:41 PM

Return of the Living Dead. Truly bad and truly a guilty pleasure.

Dylan Couper May 4th, 2004 01:44 AM

Battlefield Earth for me.

I thought Return Of The Living Dead was good! :)

K. Forman May 4th, 2004 06:20 AM

That sounds like any Troma movie to me... You know of Tromaville, right? They brought us Toxic Avenger, Sgt. Kabukiman NYPD, and a host of other B grade movies.

On second thought, they were so bad, that they were just bad...

Imran Zaidi May 4th, 2004 07:25 AM

The Stupids.

As dumb as it was, there was some tongue in cheek stuff going on in the subtext which I found rather deceptively smart.

Mars Attacks, however, I don't think could fall into this category - after all, it was supposed to be a spoof of alien attack films. Plus I thought it was great :)

Joe Gioielli May 5th, 2004 08:51 AM

The Green Berets

"Was my Petersan brave?"

Stephen Schleicher May 5th, 2004 11:57 AM

I can't believe no one has said

Army of Darkness - Ash Rules!

Buckaroo Banzai: Across the 8th Dimension - See the stars before they were stars. Too bad no one saw the great humor and classic sci-fi in this. It could have easily been a franchise.

They Live - This movie has it all Space Zombies, mind control, classic lines, and Rowdy Roddy Piper!

Must watch them all again tonight on DVD with commentary turned on!

Cheers

Keith Loh May 5th, 2004 12:09 PM

Hmm, I don't think either of those movies qualifies. None of them were bad, they were intentionally campy.

Robert Knecht Schmidt May 5th, 2004 12:12 PM

Silent Night, Deadly Night and its sequel. The Maniac Cop series.

Mike Rehmus May 9th, 2004 07:36 PM

Battle beyond the Stars? Love his ship and the Valkerie

The Last Starfigher?

And Blade

And

Josh Brusin May 9th, 2004 08:04 PM

O.C. and Stiggs (robert altman, dennis hopper, martin mull... etc)
Bad Manners

Keith Loh May 9th, 2004 11:31 PM

You know Battle Beyond the Stars was one of James Cameron's big breaks.

Linda Schodowsky May 10th, 2004 07:11 PM

Okay... I forgot one.

The Rocky Horror Picture Show

Back in 1978-79, when I was at art school in Denver, a group of us would make the weekend trip to the Ogden Theater in downtown Denver. I think I saw it at least 20 times!

Patrick MCMurray May 16th, 2004 10:10 AM

how bout ones like Speed or the Rock? ones that youll watch because its on tv and you have nothing better to do.


thanks to keith for pointing out Troma. One movie they did that definatly DOES NOT fit in this topic is Cannible The Musical! One of the best movies of all times. Trey Parker and Matt Stone shot it in film school for something like $150K.

John Hudson May 18th, 2004 08:25 PM

LOL

Yes!

Rocky Horror and Battle Beyond the Stars! I love them both!

NAVY SEALS
Terminal Velocity
Major League

I swear this isnt a Sheen thing! I just thought of one after another.

Keith Loh May 19th, 2004 10:37 AM

Mario Bros
 
Super Mario Brothers .. I didn't think it was that bad. It was just crazy and senseless. That doesn't make it bad in my book.

Mike Rehmus May 19th, 2004 07:41 PM

The latest 3D movie about those Kids. So bad I've tried and succeeded in forgetting the title.

John Hudson May 23rd, 2004 11:20 AM

Okay, Im not sure if this falls under the "its actually good" category; my wife ordered a pizza and apparently (papa johns) is giving out free DVD's with the order. She picked Wekkend at Bernies.

I was 19 when this came out. I watched it again and actually laughed. Maybe its nostalgia?

John Locke May 23rd, 2004 03:42 PM

Here are my three:

Disco Beaver from Outer Space
(National Lampoon film about a huge alien beaver--looking exactly like a big guy in a brown shag carpet suit. Actually a TV parody.)

The Brother from Another Planet
(another alien movie with a Harlem twist)

Lair of the White Worm
(Dune meets Dragonslayer--one of Hugh Grant's and Amanda Donohoe's first films)

Bill Pryor May 23rd, 2004 05:34 PM

For many years Ed Wood ruled in this area. However, I think he was outclassed when Kevin Costner did "Waterworld." But then even Kevin fell down a notch when "Battlefield Earth" came out. Sorta made me wonder what "Plan 9 From Outer Space" would have been like if Ed had had a $200 million budget like those other guys.
Also, the Science Fiction Channel sure does run some bombs these days--anything involving killer snakes, rats, ants, spiders, roaches, etc. They're all legitimate feature length movies, but probably never released until somebody at SciFi figured out they had more hours in a 24 hour day 365 days a year than they did available films.

Jeremiah Hall May 24th, 2004 07:57 PM

One of the worst I've ever seen was "A Polish Vampire in Burbank." Many moons ago, USA ran that one on their Up All Night show. I think it was shot on Beta. A good bad movie.

Bill Pryor May 24th, 2004 08:41 PM

Oh man, with a title like that, you'd have to watch it. My favorite all time bad movie title, which somebody mentioned earlier in this thread, is "Disco Beaver from Outer Space."

The SciFi channel did it again last night as I was channel surfing...one called "Mosquito." I watched the really bad acting and horrendous dialog for a few minutes, until they cut to the giant mosquitoes hovering outside the boarded up windows...it looked like a big stuffed mosquito that the gaffers were dangling from strings. Sort of reminded me of Ed Wood's paper plate flying saucers on strings.

All those strange bug attack movies seem to have a scene where they try to board up the windows in a shack, but the damn bugs always get through. I think the last mutant bug well done movie was "Them." That was in the '50's, and I saw a restored print a couple of years ago. It was still better than the newer crap they've been showing on the SciFi channel (if you can tune in at a time when they're not showing "Stargate" back to back for hours. I've about given up on them, but they're still good for a bad movie laugh on occasion.

Mike Rehmus May 24th, 2004 10:02 PM

Don't forget, "It Came From Outer-Space!"

And "Dune."

Bill Pryor May 24th, 2004 10:16 PM

"Dune" the David Lynch or "Dune" the SF Channel series? I hate to admit it in public, but I kinda liked the series...it was like rereading the books after 20 years.

John Hudson May 24th, 2004 10:53 PM

Valley Girl!

I love this film and had the mad crush on Deborah Foreman. Dude. I was like 13.

Steve McDonald May 25th, 2004 12:02 AM

"The Return of the Night of the Living Dead" was intended to be a bad movie and a spoof of that genre, just like the much lower-budget original. But, the actress who played the key role in that sequel, did a very good job and performed some noteworthy heroics. In the college lecture hall where I paid 50 cents to see it, she developed quite a dedicated cheering section. I wish I could remember her name, as I'd bet she did some other good things in her life.

Steve McDonald

Mike Rehmus May 25th, 2004 09:17 AM

"Dune" the movie. They used one of our digital cameras to scan the film anyplace the actor's eyes had to be 'spice-blue'. In spite of that, the film was so campy, it was great. It wasn't a great match to the book, I thought.

Bill Pryor May 25th, 2004 09:29 AM

I'm glad somebody else thought that movie was bad. Since David Lynch did it, it's not socially acceptable to criticize it. And, I love David Lynch films. Except for that one. I remember when I saw it, I said, "That dude has never read a science fiction book in his life."

Speaking of bad movies...there was a story on NPR this morning about a rerelease of the original Japanese "Godzilla." I have always heard the original was a good anti-nuclear bomb statement, but the U.S. version has never made that point very well. Turns out they sold the U.S. rights to an American schlockhouse, which very cleverly cut out 45 minutes of the Japanese and shot Raymond Burr on a soundstage in a 24 hour period and inserted him into the film and totally changed it into a monstercrap production that helped spawn all the bad sequels. The original is supposed to be showing now or soon in N.Y., with the original 45 minutes restored. Hopefully in Japanese with subtitles, but I didn't hear anything about that.

Keith Loh May 25th, 2004 01:55 PM

"Dune" the movie is not good, to be sure. But I did like the cast, costumes and sets.

John Hudson May 25th, 2004 08:18 PM

Lynch has never done it for me; although I did enjoy Twin Peaks I never have 'gotten' the hype.

Bill Pryor May 25th, 2004 08:56 PM

I sorta like weirdness.

Ray Echevers May 28th, 2004 10:50 PM

Anything with Vin Diesel in it.

Bill Pryor May 29th, 2004 08:46 AM

He wasn't bad in Pitch Black. That was a very good Australian B movie. He didn't have to act much, just scowl and be muscular, and he did that OK.

John Hudson May 30th, 2004 02:41 PM

I thought Vin was great in Saving Private Ryan.

Adam C Bowman May 31st, 2004 10:20 PM

Sooo bad.. it is goood!
 
Seems that there are alot of movies out there that are just bad. I offer to the list "Fish in a Barrell" those lucky few who saw this little gem at the digidance film festival three or four years ago, you saw a truelly awfull film, yet one of the funniest films I've ever seen. For those who dont know digidance, it's one of the small side fetivals going on with Sundance in Park City Utah.
It just was released on dvd, (I have no idea how) and anyone who needs to see what can be made and entered into a festival should buy it. The cast has had some commercial work, and the female lead was the bleach blonde vampire in "Blade". It was the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. I just can't put into words the train wreck that this movie is. And you will love it. Ofcourse the three hour open bar after the film might really be what I am remembering as such a great time, but nonetheless everyone should see this movie.

Leon Ortiz-Gil June 2nd, 2004 12:46 AM

XANADU - I loved this film as a kid. Come on Oliva Newton John....

WARRIORS - Are they a gang, or a 70's Funk band? And a gang on roller skates? "Warriors, come out and PLAYYY"

COMMANDO - shoots 50 guys without aiming. No wonder he's our Gov.

To many to mention...


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