300

Andy Graham · April 6th, 2007, 04:22 AM

IMO, these days you have two types of people ..... the meat and potatoes type and the sushi bar type.

300 is a meat and potatoes type of film, I love this film because it is based on fact. The line in the film where he says "we will fire a volly of arrows that will blot out the sun......then we willl fight in the shade" is a direct and true famous millitary quote , i remember being tought about it in school and it gave me goose bumps then . The Battle of Thermopylae is a true documented battle where 300 spartans fought a million persians to a standstill....it happened pretty much how they showd it in the film (obviously without some of the creatures) and to me as a man it is inspirational and in that respect its beyond criticism.

Andy.

Liam Hall · April 6th, 2007, 05:08 AM

I am neither meat nor potatoes nor sushi, but in my humble opinion there has never been a movie made that is beyond criticism.

I think it's also necessary to point out that this movie is an entertainment and not an historical reconstruction or educational film. It is after all based on a comic book and not a historical account. If it were based on fact they would have called it "1400" to reflect the 700 Thespians and 400 Thebans that fought alongside the Spartans.

Yes the battle of Thermopylae actually happened but do you seriously think it was conducted in such a homo-erotic manner?

Liam.

Andy Graham · April 6th, 2007, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam Hall

Yes the battle of Thermopylae actually happened but do you seriously think it was conducted in such a homo-erotic manner?

Liam.

Firstly to address your comment about it not bing a reconstruction or historical account.....humans have told stories of battles and such for thousands of years and filmmaking is just the modern way of telling tales the same way we have always done. This is a film based on the battle of Thermopylae just as the comic was based on the battle of Thermopylae and what they both do is remind us of the events that happened.....it may not be exact (enter the entertainment value) but let me draw your attention to religion..... there are many tales in all religions that cannot be exactly true but they may be based on real events and this is exactly the same.Its about people telling tales to keep the memory of the past.

Secondly yes i do think it would be conducted in a homo-erotic manner, classical studies is full of homosexuality....from emperors to commoners it was widley practiced. If you look at the origins of the olympics men in greek times or roman times for that matter would strip and rub olive oil on their bodies and then wrestl naked. War in those days was the province of men and subsiquently it had a homo- erotic air about it.

You can pick away at the technique the director used but the fundamentaly human need to tell stories of events is why in my opinion any film made about real events are untouchable because however bad the film is it serves its purpose just by reminding us of the real event.

Andy.

Jay Kavi · April 9th, 2007, 06:33 PM

Ok film. Visually great, but as previously said, the dialog and acting werent so hot. Also, the use (or overuse) of slow motion got old. My friend and I got into an hours deep argument about this, but my main gripe was the casting. The spartans (greeks) were anglo with english or scottish accents. And the "bad" guys were all ethnic looking. I'm not saying to movie was racist (the bad guys were coming from asia/africa) just inconsistent. they shoulda used real greeks.

Mark Kenfield · May 20th, 2007, 07:01 PM

I think 300 kicked all kinds of ass. I thought it was great. Easily the best sword and sandals film since Gladiator revived the genre back in 2000 IMHO. Its plot IS paper-thin and character development no thicker. But as an example of pure, beautifully shot, kickass spectacle goes - it's fantastic. I've seen it twice now (once on Imax) and it just gets the audience fired up. You remember it for different reasons to those you remember a film like Gladiator for, but you DO remember it.

Theodore McNeil · May 27th, 2007, 08:28 PM

I just saw it and ... As a piece of Art, it's awesome. As history, it's garbage.

Have to admit I found more fascist than homo-erotic.

Terry Lee · May 27th, 2007, 08:40 PM

Wonderful film. I think that the message lies within the feeling you get from the cinematography. Of corse this film should not be taken as a historical representation. It was a recreation of a comic book right?

Anyway, I think Zack did a wonderful job with this film.

Anyone know what cameras they used?

thanks.

April 6th, 2007, 04:22 AM	#16
Andy Graham Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lanark,Scotland Posts: 736	IMO, these days you have two types of people ..... the meat and potatoes type and the sushi bar type. 300 is a meat and potatoes type of film, I love this film because it is based on fact. The line in the film where he says "we will fire a volly of arrows that will blot out the sun......then we willl fight in the shade" is a direct and true famous millitary quote , i remember being tought about it in school and it gave me goose bumps then . The Battle of Thermopylae is a true documented battle where 300 spartans fought a million persians to a standstill....it happened pretty much how they showd it in the film (obviously without some of the creatures) and to me as a man it is inspirational and in that respect its beyond criticism. Andy. __________________ Actor: "where would that light be coming from?" DP: "same place as the music" -Andrew Lesnie-

April 6th, 2007, 05:08 AM	#17
Liam Hall Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London, England Posts: 969	I am neither meat nor potatoes nor sushi, but in my humble opinion there has never been a movie made that is beyond criticism. I think it's also necessary to point out that this movie is an entertainment and not an historical reconstruction or educational film. It is after all based on a comic book and not a historical account. If it were based on fact they would have called it "1400" to reflect the 700 Thespians and 400 Thebans that fought alongside the Spartans. Yes the battle of Thermopylae actually happened but do you seriously think it was conducted in such a homo-erotic manner? Liam. __________________ Writer-Director-DOP www.liamhall.net

April 9th, 2007, 06:33 PM	#19
Jay Kavi Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 243	Ok film. Visually great, but as previously said, the dialog and acting werent so hot. Also, the use (or overuse) of slow motion got old. My friend and I got into an hours deep argument about this, but my main gripe was the casting. The spartans (greeks) were anglo with english or scottish accents. And the "bad" guys were all ethnic looking. I'm not saying to movie was racist (the bad guys were coming from asia/africa) just inconsistent. they shoulda used real greeks.

May 20th, 2007, 07:01 PM	#20
Mark Kenfield Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 470	I think 300 kicked all kinds of ass. I thought it was great. Easily the best sword and sandals film since Gladiator revived the genre back in 2000 IMHO. Its plot IS paper-thin and character development no thicker. But as an example of pure, beautifully shot, kickass spectacle goes - it's fantastic. I've seen it twice now (once on Imax) and it just gets the audience fired up. You remember it for different reasons to those you remember a film like Gladiator for, but you DO remember it.

May 27th, 2007, 08:28 PM	#21
Theodore McNeil Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Centreville, Maryland Posts: 258	I just saw it and ... As a piece of Art, it's awesome. As history, it's garbage. Have to admit I found more fascist than homo-erotic.

May 27th, 2007, 08:40 PM	#22
Terry Lee Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 691	Wonderful film. I think that the message lies within the feeling you get from the cinematography. Of corse this film should not be taken as a historical representation. It was a recreation of a comic book right? Anyway, I think Zack did a wonderful job with this film. Anyone know what cameras they used? thanks.