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Weird, I"m on win 7 pro and use edius 8 workgroup. Also, it was a overcast day, the overexposed parts you see are clouds only.

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I think that is the part I"m missing here, I can alter highlights, shadows and midtones but that doesn't do anything with the color and using the colorcorrecor doesn't help either. Not sure how you can map the files to rec.709 in Edius because that I think should bring out the real colors to have a starting point.

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You get the level (gamma) to the level of your liking first and only then you can play with color saturation, not the other way around. In any case this means pumping up the saturation by a significant amount. Try different combinations of saturation of the highlight, midtone and shadow areas. The good thing about these BMPCC's ProRes files is that they are 10-bit 4:2:2. The colors, reds in particular, have more tolerance for bleeding at the edges and banding that usually occur to 8-bit 4:2:0 video files when color saturation is raised.

Having said that, I totally agree with you based on my short experience with the BMCC and later the BMPCC over a year ago, that the ProRes files from these two BM cameras were somehow more difficult to work with, grading-wise, than the 12-bit RAW files from either camera. I and my colleges then suspected the ProRes encoding engines in both cameras may not have matured or been capable enough to encode such high datarates in real time so they had to leave out certain chroma information. Just a guess, though.

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Finally figured out what I was doing wrong and could download the clip

Here's what I came up with

https://www.dropbox.com/s/s82wdvtmo2...%2077.mov?dl=0

Whether this is "objectively" correct or not isn't the point - I grew up in New England and I remember what late Autumn days looked/felt like on overcast days so that's what I aimed for. The point of course is that you can do a lot with ProRes. Whether it's as much as you want to do is a different question. Raw would take too much memory so it isn't a real option for what I usually do.

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noa and all-

for those of us on the sidelines, i find this thread extremely helpful.

i do not own a bmpcc but have worked with one several times.

i am aware of the difficult ergos.

i am aware of the difficult workflow.

i am also thoroughly drawn to the look of well shot, thoughtfully graded blackmagic footage.

thank you all for doing the heavy lifting.

carry on!

be well.

rob
smalltalk productions/nyc

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This is mainly for Noa.
Listen, this is the best I can do, shot in prores with a vintage 20 mm. My neighbor, who owns the camera shot this, I graded it. I simply can't do better and I'm ready to take your full front criticism.
What do you think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CSP...ature=youtu.be

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You are able to get better color out of prores then I am able to so who am I to criticize you :) I still get the best results shooting raw and color correct in after effects and still have not been able to get nearly the same results shooting prores and then colorcorrect.

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He had chosen to shoot prores, just met him as he was playing with his cam yesterday and was set to shoot prores, but I'll try to borrow the cam again and shoot raw, alone and see what I can do. Still, I think my computer might have a problem with raw. Prores was actually not too demanding and even though I'm aware that many people have produced much better footage than what I showed on this link when they were shooting raw, I thought that didn't too too bad, which is telling me that raw might look amazing. As soon as I have something I'll post it.

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worked more on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MrW...ature=youtu.be

That's it, I'm stopping here!