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Philip Lipetz November 21st, 2012 12:36 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Miko Meloni (Post 1764388)

Several of them were shot at 320 ISO and at less than optimal picture profiles, or is stylisticly graded, reducing DR andpixture quality dramatically.. I have yet to see a real test of the shippping camera.

Monday Isa November 21st, 2012 07:21 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Philip Lipetz (Post 1764405)
Several of them were shot at 320 ISO and at less than optimal picture profiles, or is stylisticly graded, reducing DR andpixture quality dramatically.. I have yet to see a real test of the shippping camera.

Read his description again. This is a production model he purchased.

Andy Wilkinson November 21st, 2012 09:44 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100 and Nanoflash
 
Just took a 5 minute break from editing and found this. Looks like the C100 clips are coming in thick and fast from Australia now! :-)


Andy Wilkinson November 21st, 2012 01:01 PM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
I see some C100s have now arrived with a dealer in the USA. My supplier here in the UK (CVP) are now stating "less than 7 days" availability. Yippee!

So 2 things then.

1. I better finally tell my wife I bought a new camera before the box arrives! ;-)

2. Ask Chris H to create a new forum area for the C100 - now that they are finally shipping/getting out into the wild, maybe lumped in with the C300 in a "C100 & C300" section. However, maybe we need a section just called "Canon Cinema EOS" - because there are also the C500 and 1D-C models to consider.

Any other/better suggestions?

Philip Lipetz November 21st, 2012 03:13 PM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Filmtools says our team's C100 has arrived.

Miko Meloni November 21st, 2012 06:16 PM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Another video


Philip Lipetz November 21st, 2012 06:25 PM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Monday Isa (Post 1764440)
Read his description again. This is a production model he purchased.

Shooting at 320 ISO will reduce DR on bth the C100 and the C300 production models, The Chinese tests were done at 320.

Monday Isa November 21st, 2012 07:25 PM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Philip Lipetz (Post 1764534)
Shooting at 320 ISO will reduce DR on bth the C100 and the C300 production models, The Chinese tests were done at 320.

I was pointing out that you said you have yet to see a real test from a production model and my point is the camera he has is a production model. That was all.

Chris Hurd November 21st, 2012 08:45 PM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
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Just a quick note, the U.S. dealer that has the C100 in stock now is one of our trusted site sponsors, Texas Media Systems -- the link is http://www.texasmediasystems.com

And yes I agree, it's about time to spin off a dedicated forum for the C100.

(photo by Texas Media Systems)

Andy Wilkinson November 22nd, 2012 06:23 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
The C100 has arrived in the UK. CVP website says they now have 21 in stock (and one of them is MINE!!!!). 2-3 days delivery so should have it early next week.

Pity I'm mega busy with clients - I doubt I'll have much time to play with the camera the next few weeks.

Will check it out though to make sure it does not have a stuck pixel like the one in that Vimeo video posted by Miko - see a few posts above.

Philip Lipetz November 22nd, 2012 07:27 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Macroblocking, as expected with high speed objects. When you look at this be aware that the swinging chairs are out of focus, so look at the spinning objects on the ground. the out of foucs stuff breaks down much quicker. I have included the YouTube link since the VImeo version is not at 1080p. Listen, we all knew that with extremely fast motion we would have to use an external recorder.

This is not something that disqualifies the C100. I find it interesting that people scream about AVCHD on the C100 but not on the FS100/700. The real question is how well does the C10o compare to these cameras, and from the intial tests it looks better for normal speed work.

I will be doing C100 tests this weekend, and then custom profile optimization and C300 comparisons the first week in December. What do you guys want me to do? Will try to do as many tests as we need.


Philip Lipetz November 22nd, 2012 07:34 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Here are some direct comparisons of the C100 and the FS700. I much prefer the C100 image. Look at the wide shot of the stall, there is so much more DR in the C100 image.


make sure you set both streams to 1080p

The FS700 may be slightly sharper in the pan over the prizes while in bright light. However, look at the black detail in the blowup pan over the bunch of shadowed black doll prizes, the C100 captures much more low light detail. Also the prize next to the white tigers in the shadow area, the C100 shows complete lines on the prize while the FS700 breaks the line up/ then as the pan continues to the right the C100 is clearly sharper than the FS700. The initial difference in detail could be a focus issue, but overall in this comparison the C100 has overall much more detail. much smmoth color gradients n the woman's face, less banding, I am very happy.

David Ells November 22nd, 2012 07:29 PM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 

Atomos Ninja 2 ProRes compared with avchd. It's not a stress test by any means but the user has offered to provide the ProRes file to those interested (like me). I'm going to try bringing the exposure up a stop in both versions to see how the image holds up.

Nate Haustein November 22nd, 2012 10:08 PM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
Surprised by the amount of aliasing in the eyebrows on the AVCHD vs. ProRes clip. Does bit rate affect aliasing that much, or is this another one of those Premiere Pro field order issues?

David Ells November 23rd, 2012 09:37 AM

Re: Canon EOS C100
 
The user claims the aliasing is present in the original .MTS file as well.


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