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Gary Huff January 29th, 2015 10:47 PM

Re: C100 and handholding
 
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Originally Posted by Andrew Maclaurin (Post 1875139)
I find that sometimes a big are is supposedly in focus when in fact it isn't really.

A big are?

The trick is to know when the peaking is actually "peaking". You get that with practice. Just because there's a little bit of peaking doesn't mean it's in focus. You can get some peaking and then more peaking, just have to know how to read it. And use the magnified focus to double-check. If it's peaking in magnified focus, it's in focus.

Practice is the best way.

Andrew Maclaurin January 30th, 2015 12:33 PM

Re: C100 and handholding
 
Sorry, big area!
Ken, i don't understand why push auto would require the lens in auto. Surely that means it's redundant as it's already in auto. No push auto with the lens in manual would be useful

Ken Diewert January 31st, 2015 02:03 AM

Re: C100 and handholding
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Maclaurin (Post 1875235)
Sorry, big area!
Ken, i don't understand why push auto would require the lens in auto. Surely that means it's redundant as it's already in auto. No push auto with the lens in manual would be useful

Andrew,

The lens has to be switched to auto focus in order for the camera to be able to adjust it. If you push auto with the lens in manual nothing will happen. But set your camera setting 'AF Mode' to 'one shot', and not 'continuous', and it is a manual focus lens that only auto focuses when you push 'one shot AF' (default button 15 on the front). The box will turn from red to green when the camera feels like its in focus. It's pretty reliable... and unless you're cutting razor thin dof, you should be pretty damn close to sharp focus. I trust the camera more than my eyes if I don't have reading glasses on.

I use it so much that I re-programmed button 7 (default Magn), to a secondary push auto button. I find it to be very quick and very reliable...

It also helps to know your aperture when you are using peaking (i use red), and you will have a rough idea of how much dof you have to play with. If you have a pretty small aperture (meaning large f number), you're going to be seeing a lot of red, and you will have a lot more room to still be in focus.

Andrew Maclaurin February 1st, 2015 04:32 AM

Re: C100 and handholding
 
thanks Ken.

Kathy Smith February 3rd, 2015 03:40 PM

Re: C100 and handholding
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate Haustein (Post 1874438)
I always just smash the back of the C100 against my chest and put my left and under the "toe" to both support and focus. It's also worked really well for me to use a small EVF (for outside use) or monitor on a ball head on the front cold shoe. It becomes a very tall camera, but you have lots of points of contact, it's close to your body, and it feels very natural to me. Couple it with a good IS lens and you're set.

I use this method primarily for docu-style shooting, for more "cinematic" applications, I rig up the C100 on a Zacuto C-Shooter. The package becomes larger and more difficult to handle, but I think the handheld style looks more authentic for some reason... Gut feeling I guess, but for fast-moving docu, I much prefer the smaller package.

Nate, how do you smash the back for the camera against your chest and still be able to see the screen?

Kathy Smith February 3rd, 2015 03:41 PM

Re: C100 and handholding
 
Can anyone show me what results you are getting when handholding C100? I just did some tests and the results were pretty bad. I want to see what I should be aiming for.
Thanks

Gary Huff February 3rd, 2015 05:30 PM

Re: C100 and handholding
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kathy Smith (Post 1875646)
Can anyone show me what results you are getting when handholding C100?

This was using the C-Cup on the C100 Mark I with a Ninja Star.


At 4:22 in this video, you will see a load of b-roll that was all shot handheld with a Sigma 50mm ART lens wide open (f/1.4) and my eye pressed into the C-Cup using the C100 Mark I's EVF. The LCD screen was closed.

Kathy Smith February 4th, 2015 09:39 AM

Re: C100 and handholding
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Huff (Post 1875658)
This was using the C-Cup on the C100 Mark I with a Ninja Star.

Shalottlilly

At 4:22 in this video, you will see a load of b-roll that was all shot handheld with a Sigma 50mm ART lens wide open (f/1.4) and my eye pressed into the C-Cup using the C100 Mark I's EVF. The LCD screen was closed.

Gary, thanks. I'm going to try using the C-Cup so if I get my shots more stable but what about other shot in the video, like the opening shot, is that just on a slider? What about at about 3:20, are these handheld?

Gary Huff February 4th, 2015 11:49 AM

Re: C100 and handholding
 
Only one shot out of the rest is handheld, and that's in the sequence at 3:20, but only a single shot from behind the back of the head, mostly because it was just quicker to dismount the camera and handhold it for that one instead of the setup time involved otherwise.

Everything else is tripod and slider.

Kathy Smith March 10th, 2015 02:00 AM

Re: C100 and handholding
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric C. Petrie (Post 1873677)
Meet the Zacuto Recoil V2 for the Canon C100/300/500 on Vimeo

This has been my personal favorite solution for the last year or more. It's light weight, super flexible, gets the grip in the right spot. Zacuto has just come out with the 3rd generation Recoil stuff too. The plates are a little bigger but allow for even more flexibility. What do you think of the rig in the video? Do you think it might meet your needs?

Eric Petrie
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HI Eric,

I'm thinking of renting the Zacuto recoil because I have a gig where I need a shoulder rig. Looking at the video, it looks like I need a Zacuto EVF, is that correct? It doesn't look like I will be able to use the screen that comes with the C100. I do have an external screen that I could use but it doesn't seem like it will be so close to my face I won't be able to see too well, my external screen is 7". What do you think? Anyone else has experience with this rig? Or maybe someone has other shoulder rigs they can recommend?

Thanks
Kathy


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