C100 MkI vs Mk II color difference at DVinfo.net

Stefan Gill · December 1st, 2015, 03:36 PM

Have you seen any minor or major difference in the colors produced from the Mk. I to the Mk. II .. especially greens and blues ?

Thanks.

Michael Silverman · December 7th, 2015, 09:21 PM

There is a difference. If you contact Travis Cossel of Black Label Film Studio in Miami, he's done a white balance shift on his C100 Mk I so that the difference is barely noticeable and makes color correction much easier. I don't have his email address but you should be able to Google his contact info and he can send you his settings.

Sergej Semibratov · December 10th, 2015, 08:02 PM

Could somebody post the settings here for everyone else?

Michael Silverman · December 10th, 2015, 09:25 PM

Here is what Travis said worked for him:

"I just did a real test to match WB between C100i and C100ii using WB shift on the C100i to match the C100ii. You CANNOT do this via the LCD screens as the quality is vastly different and the C100i LCD is totally unreliable for color. Instead I took the time to record segments of footage on both cameras and ingested them into my edit system to compare...I dropped the shift down 3 (toward magenta) and over 1 (toward blue). Hope this helps those of you trying to match your C100's."

Bob Drummond · December 13th, 2015, 08:44 AM

That's very interesting and helpful, thanks! I'll try it out.

Though honestly, I've found that when the mk1 and mk 2 are set to the same kelvin and the same stock picture profile, they look pretty close. Not an exact match, but close enough that I don't think any client or viewer would care. Still, I'd like to try this and see if they can get even closer.

Stefan Gill · December 23rd, 2015, 02:34 PM

Folks, I have compared the C100 MK1 to the MK2 -- quick test using the same lens (24-70) at 320ISO, 3200 kelvin and the ESO Standard picture style.

As you can see the original shoots more yellow/green ... thoughts / comments ?

Dennis Hingsberg · December 26th, 2015, 08:43 AM

My company was hired to shoot a live concert multi-cam and we ended up with two MKii's and one MKi and I did the editing and post on the finished video. I could not spot any major difference with the MKi camera.

Having said that, the lighting was a mixture of LED colored stage lights, tungsten spot lights (probably something to the effect of source 4's not sure), and there was a large screen projection at the back of the stage which would play videos or sometimes just as special graphics, effects, etc..

We used the CP8 profile and I really liked the overall look I got from the cameras.

These are slightly colored in photoshop for the purposes of posting still images but on the video the original CP8 profile was virtually left untouched:

December 1st, 2015, 03:36 PM	#1
Stefan Gill Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Levittown, New York Posts: 91	C100 MkI vs Mk II color difference Have you seen any minor or major difference in the colors produced from the Mk. I to the Mk. II .. especially greens and blues ? Thanks.

December 7th, 2015, 09:21 PM	#2
Michael Silverman Major Player Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Charlottesville Posts: 255	Re: C100 MkI vs Mk II color difference There is a difference. If you contact Travis Cossel of Black Label Film Studio in Miami, he's done a white balance shift on his C100 Mk I so that the difference is barely noticeable and makes color correction much easier. I don't have his email address but you should be able to Google his contact info and he can send you his settings.

December 10th, 2015, 08:02 PM	#3
Sergej Semibratov New Boot Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ljubljana, Slovenia Posts: 8	Re: C100 MkI vs Mk II color difference Could somebody post the settings here for everyone else?

December 10th, 2015, 09:25 PM	#4
Michael Silverman Major Player Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Charlottesville Posts: 255	Re: C100 MkI vs Mk II color difference Here is what Travis said worked for him: "I just did a real test to match WB between C100i and C100ii using WB shift on the C100i to match the C100ii. You CANNOT do this via the LCD screens as the quality is vastly different and the C100i LCD is totally unreliable for color. Instead I took the time to record segments of footage on both cameras and ingested them into my edit system to compare...I dropped the shift down 3 (toward magenta) and over 1 (toward blue). Hope this helps those of you trying to match your C100's."

December 13th, 2015, 08:44 AM	#5
Bob Drummond Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 161	Re: C100 MkI vs Mk II color difference That's very interesting and helpful, thanks! I'll try it out. Though honestly, I've found that when the mk1 and mk 2 are set to the same kelvin and the same stock picture profile, they look pretty close. Not an exact match, but close enough that I don't think any client or viewer would care. Still, I'd like to try this and see if they can get even closer.

December 23rd, 2015, 02:34 PM	#6
Stefan Gill Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Levittown, New York Posts: 91	Re: C100 MkI vs Mk II color difference Folks, I have compared the C100 MK1 to the MK2 -- quick test using the same lens (24-70) at 320ISO, 3200 kelvin and the ESO Standard picture style. As you can see the original shoots more yellow/green ... thoughts / comments ? Attached Thumbnails

December 26th, 2015, 08:43 AM	#7
Dennis Hingsberg Trustee Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,055	Re: C100 MkI vs Mk II color difference My company was hired to shoot a live concert multi-cam and we ended up with two MKii's and one MKi and I did the editing and post on the finished video. I could not spot any major difference with the MKi camera. Having said that, the lighting was a mixture of LED colored stage lights, tungsten spot lights (probably something to the effect of source 4's not sure), and there was a large screen projection at the back of the stage which would play videos or sometimes just as special graphics, effects, etc.. We used the CP8 profile and I really liked the overall look I got from the cameras. These are slightly colored in photoshop for the purposes of posting still images but on the video the original CP8 profile was virtually left untouched: __________________ Blog: www.hingsberg.com Ultimate Exposure Guides for FS5/F7S/F5/F55