HD-Out over HDMI while recording

Fei Meng · February 27th, 2010, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaku Ito

I connected the TVLogic XVM-245W via HIDMI and it did output video while recording.

That's a relief!

Robert Turchick · February 27th, 2010, 11:08 PM

woooooohooooooooooo! Now I am regretting my choice to not have the camera shipped overnight! ARRRRRRRRRGH! At least it'll be here Monday!

Rob Cook · February 27th, 2010, 11:13 PM

Robert Turchick, let me know how it looks on your DP1 monitor , if you would, you get your T2i a day before me! Drats.............

Robert Turchick · February 27th, 2010, 11:52 PM

will do! now I just have to save up some money for a follow focus!

Kaku Ito · February 28th, 2010, 04:42 AM

Today, I bought a hoodman magnifier and worked our pretty nice. I have to think of better way to mount it though.

Jon Fairhurst · February 28th, 2010, 11:02 AM

Tomorrow Hoodman is said to be releasing a new eyecup and magnifier for the HoodLoupe. I plan to buy it immediately. The stock HoodLoupe lets in stray light. Also, the view gets soft if your eye gets off center. The new eyecup and magnifier should make the Hoodloupe more competitive with the Z-Finder.

For mounting, RedRock Micro sells a holder for $55 that is solid:
microFinder loupe accessory kit

The only downside is that it's not quick and easy to remove it. This isn't a problem if you use a field monitor, but is a problem if you want to go from a shoulder configuration to using the LCD on some other setup. Or if you want to use the optical viewfinder like a normal camera. But if you own a field monitor, this mount is the way to go.

I purchased an LCD screen/shade from Hong Kong. (I'm not sure if this was the seller.)

LCD Pop-Up Screen Hood Shade Cover for CANON 5D Mark II - eBay (item 280461556924 end time Mar-07-10 22:59:52 PST)

I applied velcro to mount it, but it's not very rugged. The velcro adhesive has started to come loose.

Stan Chase · February 28th, 2010, 11:38 AM

Jon, where did you hear about the new eyecup? I have the Hoodman with the HoodEye 3.0 and it works pretty well. For magnification I use a pair of +3.00 reading glasses.

I tried the velcro approach to attach the loupe to the LCD frame like you did but found that Loctite UltraGel super glue works much more securely.

It appears that the T2i uses the same viewfinder as the T1i, so I'm hoping I can just clip-on the Hoodman/LCD frame to my T2i when it arrives tomorrow.

Jon Fairhurst · February 28th, 2010, 12:27 PM

Here's the info...

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-eo...y-400-a-2.html

Kaku Ito · February 28th, 2010, 07:02 PM

Jon, thanks for the information!

Eric Lagerlof · February 28th, 2010, 11:05 PM

Getting back to the HDMI output, is this usable 1080 footage? I'm gathering that it is 1080-i and not 1080-p? Is there some sort of cropping going on? This camera is tempting, especially given the price point, but I shoot a lot of theater currently and the shooting time limits make it a bit iffy for me. Capturing to an external drive would be nice, though from what I understand the camera can/will overheat after a time anyway, true?

Alex Sava · March 1st, 2010, 09:18 AM

I found a 23" Philips monitor, 1920x1080p, hdmi, the whole nine, for around $230 new. Wouldn't this make a good accessory for your dSLR since those small LCDs are almost 5 times more expensive?

Surely they wouldn't be as practical as those small ones so they're not for all situations, but if you film something indoors, wouldn't this be a much better solution?

Daniel von Euw · March 1st, 2010, 09:37 AM

I think this or another cheap Full HD computer monitor for indoor and narrative film works great (for focus and framing) and can used as second monitor for postpro.

Have think in the same direction but for me a dp1 will be a must. ;)

Daniel

Daniel von Euw · March 1st, 2010, 09:43 AM

According the latest update in the text from DSLRinformer the T2i will output 480p during recording.

Go to vimeo to read that - the info is not in the clip.

Hope that is not true.

Daniel

Robert Turchick · March 1st, 2010, 05:55 PM

I can confirm that. Just hooked up my SmallHD which tells you what you're viewing. in LiveView mode, it's 1080i and once record is hit, the monitor says 480p. I still found it easier to focus on the SmallHD than the LCD on camera. bit of a disappointment but still very useable.

Fei Meng · March 1st, 2010, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Sava

I found a 23" Philips monitor, 1920x1080p, hdmi, the whole nine, for around $230 new. Wouldn't this make a good accessory for your dSLR since those small LCDs are almost 5 times more expensive?

You can get a brand new Acer 23" 1080p monitor for $180 shipped from SuperBiiz.com. There's a 21.5" version (also 1080p) that's just $170 shipped. Both have HDMI inputs.

February 27th, 2010, 11:08 PM	#17
Robert Turchick Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 1,389	woooooohooooooooooo! Now I am regretting my choice to not have the camera shipped overnight! ARRRRRRRRRGH! At least it'll be here Monday! __________________ The older I get, the better I was!

February 27th, 2010, 11:13 PM	#18
Rob Cook Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 99	Robert Turchick, let me know how it looks on your DP1 monitor , if you would, you get your T2i a day before me! Drats............. __________________ Canon XHA1, Canon T2i, FinalCut 3 , MacBook Pro 2.4Gz, FireStore FSC-60, DP1X Monitor

February 27th, 2010, 11:52 PM	#19
Robert Turchick Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 1,389	will do! now I just have to save up some money for a follow focus! __________________ The older I get, the better I was!

February 28th, 2010, 11:02 AM	#21
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	Tomorrow Hoodman is said to be releasing a new eyecup and magnifier for the HoodLoupe. I plan to buy it immediately. The stock HoodLoupe lets in stray light. Also, the view gets soft if your eye gets off center. The new eyecup and magnifier should make the Hoodloupe more competitive with the Z-Finder. For mounting, RedRock Micro sells a holder for $55 that is solid: microFinder loupe accessory kit The only downside is that it's not quick and easy to remove it. This isn't a problem if you use a field monitor, but is a problem if you want to go from a shoulder configuration to using the LCD on some other setup. Or if you want to use the optical viewfinder like a normal camera. But if you own a field monitor, this mount is the way to go. I purchased an LCD screen/shade from Hong Kong. (I'm not sure if this was the seller.) LCD Pop-Up Screen Hood Shade Cover for CANON 5D Mark II - eBay (item 280461556924 end time Mar-07-10 22:59:52 PST) I applied velcro to mount it, but it's not very rugged. The velcro adhesive has started to come loose. __________________ Jon Fairhurst

February 28th, 2010, 12:27 PM	#23
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	Here's the info... http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-eo...y-400-a-2.html __________________ Jon Fairhurst

February 28th, 2010, 04:42 AM	#20
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	Today, I bought a hoodman magnifier and worked our pretty nice. I have to think of better way to mount it though.

February 28th, 2010, 11:38 AM	#22
Stan Chase Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 75	Jon, where did you hear about the new eyecup? I have the Hoodman with the HoodEye 3.0 and it works pretty well. For magnification I use a pair of +3.00 reading glasses. I tried the velcro approach to attach the loupe to the LCD frame like you did but found that Loctite UltraGel super glue works much more securely. It appears that the T2i uses the same viewfinder as the T1i, so I'm hoping I can just clip-on the Hoodman/LCD frame to my T2i when it arrives tomorrow.

February 28th, 2010, 07:02 PM	#24
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	Jon, thanks for the information!

February 28th, 2010, 11:05 PM	#25
Eric Lagerlof Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 348	Getting back to the HDMI output, is this usable 1080 footage? I'm gathering that it is 1080-i and not 1080-p? Is there some sort of cropping going on? This camera is tempting, especially given the price point, but I shoot a lot of theater currently and the shooting time limits make it a bit iffy for me. Capturing to an external drive would be nice, though from what I understand the camera can/will overheat after a time anyway, true?

March 1st, 2010, 09:18 AM	#26
Alex Sava Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 37	I found a 23" Philips monitor, 1920x1080p, hdmi, the whole nine, for around $230 new. Wouldn't this make a good accessory for your dSLR since those small LCDs are almost 5 times more expensive? Surely they wouldn't be as practical as those small ones so they're not for all situations, but if you film something indoors, wouldn't this be a much better solution?

March 1st, 2010, 09:37 AM	#27
Daniel von Euw Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Köln, NRW, Germany Posts: 70	I think this or another cheap Full HD computer monitor for indoor and narrative film works great (for focus and framing) and can used as second monitor for postpro. Have think in the same direction but for me a dp1 will be a must. ;) Daniel

March 1st, 2010, 09:43 AM	#28
Daniel von Euw Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Köln, NRW, Germany Posts: 70	7D vs. T2i Comparison Video on Vimeo According the latest update in the text from DSLRinformer the T2i will output 480p during recording. Go to vimeo to read that - the info is not in the clip. Hope that is not true. Daniel

March 1st, 2010, 05:55 PM	#29
Robert Turchick Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 1,389	I can confirm that. Just hooked up my SmallHD which tells you what you're viewing. in LiveView mode, it's 1080i and once record is hit, the monitor says 480p. I still found it easier to focus on the SmallHD than the LCD on camera. bit of a disappointment but still very useable. __________________ The older I get, the better I was!