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Russ Ivey February 3rd, 2011 02:56 PM

I think it's clearly a matter of preference. However, if you want avoid the FD stuff, then yes, go with the M42 setup. That will be the cheapest route. Otherwise, you'll need to start looking for the high dollar EOS lenses. Also, I'm assuming you're planning on getting the kit lens with the camera? If so, then you'll have a zoom lens to work with too.

Shahzad Mian February 3rd, 2011 03:50 PM

Ya i will be getting the 20-50mm kit lens. Later on will be getting the tokina 11-16mm f2.8 but before that i need a f1.4 or f1.8 lens cause i have lots of shots in low light. Am gona go the m42 route and see if i can find some cheap ones.

James Donnelly February 3rd, 2011 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Russ Ivey (Post 1614302)
I think it's clearly a matter of preference. However, if you want avoid the FD stuff, then yes, go with the M42 setup. That will be the cheapest route. Otherwise, you'll need to start looking for the high dollar EOS lenses. Also, I'm assuming you're planning on getting the kit lens with the camera? If so, then you'll have a zoom lens to work with too.

I would avoid FD. The image quality loss is not as major as some people make out from the glass in the adapter, but it is definitely there.

There really is no point when good old m42 lenses can give spectacular results for similar amounts. FD lenses are not even as cheap as they were a year or two ago when you could get a 50mm f/1.4 for £15. The reason for the price going up may be to do with the fact that the new micro four thirds cameras can sport an FD lens without a glass adapter.

Just search ebay lenses for m42, look for the faster glass, then google the model / numbers. You will find a ton of information. Avoid buy now auctions, avoid zooms.

Here is a search for fast primes, from 28mm to 85mm with all the crap filtered out:

m42 -adapter -adaptor -confirm -eos -zoom 28,35,50,85 items - Get great deals on For 35mm SLR items on eBay UK!

Here are the 'completed listings' which will give you an idea of how cheap you can get this stuff.(you'll need to have an account to see this one):

http://completed.shop.ebay.co.uk/Cam...|f%252F1%252E8

Always check the feedback, ask questions and check the return policy. I have bought about 25 lenses from ebay, and only one has ever had to go back.

Good luck!

Shahzad Mian February 3rd, 2011 04:19 PM

hmmm thanx so all i have to do is find something btw 20-55mm with f1.4 or 1.8. Still though which models are better to get, some are praising the takumar and helios. Will any of these lenses be any better then this one http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/12142-USA/Canon_2514A002_Normal_EF_50mm_f_1_8.html

James Donnelly February 3rd, 2011 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Shahzad Mian (Post 1614328)
hmmm thanx so all i have to do is find something btw 20-55mm with f1.4 or 1.8. Still though which models are better to get, some are praising the takumar and helios. Will any of these lenses be any better then this one Canon Normal EF 50mm f/1.8 II Autofocus Lens 2514A002 B&H Photo

Hmm indeed. Ah, I remember a quote from somewhere:

"I’m trying to free your mind—but I can only open the door; you have to walk through it. Load the jump program"
- Morpheus

Shahzad Mian February 5th, 2011 10:33 AM

I am planning on buying this in couple of days, PENTAX SMC 55mm F2 SCREW M42 LENS on eBay (end time 01-Mar-11 16:30:55 GMT) and this adapter M42 Lens to Canon EOS Mount Adapter7D 30D 500D 550D etc on eBay (end time 17-Feb-11 18:50:27 GMT)

Correct me if i am making a mistake !!

Matt Thomas February 5th, 2011 12:53 PM

M42 lens are great low cost lenses, I'd recommend getting a 50mm 1.8 M42 lens - 50mm 1.8 m42 items - Get great deals on Photography, Pentacon items on eBay UK!

I've used a 28mm 2.8, 58mm 2.0 and a 200m 4.0 and all are pretty good, none are better in low light then my 1.8 Canon 50mm though, but I recon the 1.8 50mm M42 lens would be just as good in low light.

Shahzad Mian February 5th, 2011 01:27 PM

I just played with 550d for a lil while, a friend had it. Was mostly checking the 18-55mm viewing angle and found out that 55mm is too zoomed for me so it wont be gud for the type of shots(low light, small area) i will be taking. So now i have to look for something around 28mm with f1.8 etc but cant find a cheaper one on ebay, might just leave all this m42 stuff and get the tokina 11-16mm f2.8 later.

Matt Thomas February 5th, 2011 01:46 PM

Well the 50mm 1.8 M42 would be great in low light because of the low f-stop, the only reason the 55mm end of the 18 - 55 isn't good in low light is because maximum f-stop is 5.3.

But if you're find the focal length of the 55mm too much on the kit lens, the M42 50mm would be like a 80mm on the 550D.

Shahzad Mian February 5th, 2011 02:22 PM

hmmm will the m42 lens have more multiplication added to the cropped sensor of 550d?

Chris Westerstrom February 5th, 2011 02:57 PM

no, it'll just fit the camera

Matt Thomas February 5th, 2011 03:55 PM

No, the reason why it'd be around 80mm is because of the 1.6x crop but the kit lens is a EFS so the 18 - 55 kit lens that is correct focal length for the crop.

Not really explaning it too well, but basically the EFS lens will have correct focal length, other none EFS lenses will have the focal length times 1.6

Shahzad Mian February 5th, 2011 04:03 PM

Alright i knew about the 1.6x crop but i thought m42 lens will add some more. Anyways i think i might just buy 50mm f1.8 m42 for outdoor shots at night where i will have no issue's of the zoomed view of 50mm, it aint much expensive so there is not much harm in it.

Spiros Zaharakis February 5th, 2011 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Thomas (Post 1615016)
No, the reason why it'd be around 80mm is because of the 1.6x crop but the kit lens is a EFS so the 18 - 55 kit lens that is correct focal length for the crop.

Not really explaning it too well, but basically the EFS lens will have correct focal length, other none EFS lenses will have the focal length times 1.6

That's completely wrong.

The 18-55 kit lens is 29-88 equivalent. The 55 end ofthe lens is exactly the same as a 55mm prime of any kind.

No lens in the market shows equivalent focal lengths. EVER.

Spiros Zaharakis February 5th, 2011 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shahzad Mian (Post 1615019)
Alright i knew about the 1.6x crop but i thought m42 lens will add some more. Anyways i think i might just buy 50mm f1.8 m42 for outdoor shots at night where i will have no issue's of the zoomed view of 50mm, it aint much expensive so there is not much harm in it.

Lens focal length is a real number in milimeters that can actualy be measured. the "equivalent" focal length depends on the sensor or film size. In the case of the Canon 550D you can find it by multiplying with 1.6.

Spiros Zaharakis February 5th, 2011 04:32 PM

I believe that your best choice right now is the Tamron 17-50 2.8. in either the VC or the simple non-vc version
It's not that expensive anway.

Otherwise you can take a look at some lower cost vintage primes on ebay
Vivitar 24mm F2 Super Fast wide angle NIKON AI FIT - eBay (item 250763981218 end time Feb-06-11 12:12:04 PST)
M42 Vivitar wide 28mm f2.5 Kiron made lens - eBay (item 280622849623 end time Feb-05-11 15:38:05 PST)
Accura 28mm f/2.8 Wide Prime Lens Pentax M42 Mount - eBay (item 220734589620 end time Feb-10-11 19:16:20 PST)
Vivitar 28mm Fast f2 Wide Angle Lens for Olympus OM - eBay (item 250768199703 end time Mar-05-11 09:44:33 PST)
Vivitar 28mm f2 for Pentax M K - Komine 28403407 - eBay (item 270697645112 end time Feb-05-11 18:00:38 PST)

Shahzad Mian February 5th, 2011 05:33 PM

I am buying lens form ebay uk so there the best ones are Pentax Takumar 50mm f1.8 at 50£. Wat about the Canon EF 50mm f1.8 II which is on 70£, which one would be better Canon or Pentax?

Matt Thomas February 5th, 2011 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Spiros Zaharakis (Post 1615025)
That's completely wrong.

The 18-55 kit lens is 29-88 equivalent. The 55 end ofthe lens is exactly the same as a 55mm prime of any kind.

No lens in the market shows equivalent focal lengths. EVER.

Ah right, I read that EFS were like that on another fourm a while back, I guess not.

Spiros Zaharakis February 5th, 2011 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shahzad Mian (Post 1615046)
I am buying lens form ebay uk so there the best ones are Pentax Takumar 50mm f1.8 at 50£. Wat about the Canon EF 50mm f1.8 II which is on 70£, which one would be better Canon or Pentax?

For video the pentax is better.The canon doesn't have a smooth focusing ring.

Colin Rowe February 6th, 2011 07:56 AM

Also worth checking out are Olympus Zuiko lenses, very compact, and can be purchased for a very good price. These lenses are exceptional for video.

Kenneth Tong February 9th, 2011 08:36 PM

Korean Fisheye lens
 
The greatest advantage of 550D is that you may try different lenses. I have recently bought a Korean fisheye lens (Samyang). It is cheap. No auto focus but the quality of the lens is good. It really gives a new dimension to my video as it has a near 180 degree perspective. The viewers will be surprised when they see the clips.


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