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Michael Simons March 6th, 2011 09:21 AM

Macro Lens
 
Which Macro lens do you use/suggest for the Canon 7D/60D in regards to weddings? Thank you.

Joel Peregrine March 6th, 2011 11:40 AM

Re: Macro Lens
 
Hi Michael,

I use an extension tube with no communication between the lens and the body - less than $10. They come in sets that can be used separately or as a group by screwing/unscrewing. Works with any lens.

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Michael Simons March 6th, 2011 02:08 PM

Re: Macro Lens
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joel Peregrine (Post 1625172)
Hi Michael,

I use an extension tube with no communication between the lens and the body - less than $10. They come in sets that can be used separately or as a group by screwing/unscrewing. Works with any lens.

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Thanks Joel. If you can get these for $10, why would someone pay $1,000 for the 100mm 2.8 L Series lens?

Joel Peregrine March 6th, 2011 03:23 PM

Re: Macro Lens
 
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Hi Michael,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Simons (Post 1625216)
Thanks Joel. If you can get these for $10, why would someone pay $1,000 for the 100mm 2.8 L Series lens?

I honestly don't know, but I'm sure there are reasons. For the little bit of macro work I do the extension tubes work really well. Just used them this morning for shots of a lens that is going on ebay tonight:

Nigel Barker March 7th, 2011 04:18 AM

Re: Macro Lens
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Simons (Post 1625216)
Thanks Joel. If you can get these for $10, why would someone pay $1,000 for the 100mm 2.8 L Series lens?

They pay $1000 because they want a 100mm 2.8L IS lens. It's a fantastic lens not just for Macro photos but for portraits & video shooting. Unlike the tubes it has IS. Extension tubes are good if you are on a budget but no real comparison to buying an L series lens.

Andy Wilkinson March 7th, 2011 05:10 AM

Re: Macro Lens
 
Another vote for that lens. It really produces fantastic images. Mine paid for itself the first photo session I did with it and the client (in my case corporate) was delighted with the results!

Michael Simons March 7th, 2011 07:21 AM

Re: Macro Lens
 
Thanks for the responses. Since I shoot mainly weddings and only need the macro for some shots at the brides house, will the extension tubes be good enough? I own many L series glass like the 24mm 1.4 and the 35mm 1.4

Joel Peregrine March 7th, 2011 01:52 PM

Re: Macro Lens
 
Hi Michael,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Simons (Post 1625395)
Thanks for the responses. Since I shoot mainly weddings and only need the macro for some shots at the brides house, will the extension tubes be good enough?

Me again. Last night I did some googling and could find no evidence that optically a macro lens is better than a tube. Everyone is saying convenience and other uses for a macro lens other than macro work but for someone like you the tube is the easiest, cheapest way to go and get the same quality as a dedicated close focusing lens. I'd love the input of others to tell me otherwise. I couldn't find it.

One thing to remember - if you get an extension tube set that isn't coupled to the meter you'll want to use a manual focus lens with an aperture ring. Its always best to shoot cu's stopped down as far as possible for a deeper dof, and with a Canon EF lens the aperture will stay wide open on a tube with no contacts. I have a Pentax 50/1.2 that works well with the shortest of the three extension tubes between the mounts - it gives me a shot that fills the frame with a ring and you're a comfortable 8-10" away with the camera. The ring turn at about :30 was done with this setup:

~ LAURA AND JOHN | SAME-DAY EDIT ~

Steve Oakley March 9th, 2011 01:11 AM

Re: Macro Lens
 
I have a set of extensions tubes with electronic PINS, FULLY COUPLED and it they work fine with the lenses that need them. there is only one real reason to get a true macro lens and thats to be able to continuously focus from infinity to 2". if thats not ciritcal, then extension tubes work fine. they will work best with primes like a 50-100mm lens. with some zooms, they are a bit weird to work with

Luke Gates April 5th, 2011 10:49 PM

Re: Macro Lens
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joel Peregrine (Post 1625517)
Hi Michael,

The ring turn at about :30 was done with this setup:

~ LAURA AND JOHN | SAME-DAY EDIT ~

In the video, what steadicam you use? Merlin or glidecam?

Joel Peregrine April 6th, 2011 12:46 AM

Re: Macro Lens
 
Hi Luke,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke Gates (Post 1635874)
In the video, what steadicam you use? Merlin or glidecam?

Its a 10 year old Glidecam 2000 which has seen better days.

Nigel Barker April 6th, 2011 06:09 AM

Re: Macro Lens
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Oakley (Post 1626051)
there is only one real reason to get a true macro lens and thats to be able to continuously focus from infinity to 2".

Extension tubes are OK but there are lots of other differences & reasons why macro lenses are normally superior. Extension tubes work by moving the lens further from the sensor & further away the lens is then the closer you can focus & the greater the magnification but the darker is the image at the same aperture. The optics of a lens specifically designed for macro photography will be optimised versus those of a lens simply being held further from the sensor to get the same image size.

Luc De Wandel April 7th, 2011 03:57 AM

Re: Macro Lens
 
Try to find one of the older Canon EF 100mm f2,8 lenses (non-IS). They are extremely sharp, have a fantastic DOF and are quite cheap secondhand. I use mine a lot. Don't forget: on the 7D it becomes a 160 mm lens, a dream for portraits!

Jon Fairhurst April 7th, 2011 11:06 AM

Re: Macro Lens
 
I agree with Luc. The older macro is very nearly as sharp as the new L macro - even in the corners. The falloff is similar. Even wide open, the non-L macro is sharper in the corners than the EF 85/1.8 is when stopped down to f/2.8. If you ask me, the only advantage of the new macro is hybrid-IS. Yes, it's a bit sharper, but the difference is so slight that it won't make a difference for real world images.

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro Lens - Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 L IS USM Macro Lens Comparison - Vignetting Test Results

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro Lens - Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 L IS USM Macro Lens Comparison - ISO 12233 Resolution Chart Results

Of course, the dream 100mm macro is the Zeiss. It's fast enough at f/2 to replace an 85 (unless you MUST have f/1.4 or f/1.2 for natural light shoots), and a 1:2 macro is generally all you could want for video, except for exceptional shots. Rent the 65mm x1-x5 for those effects.

Zeiss 100mm f/2.0 Makro-Planar T* ZE Lens - Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 L IS USM Macro Lens Comparison - Vignetting Test Results

Zeiss 100mm f/2.0 Makro-Planar T* ZE Lens - Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 L IS USM Macro Lens Comparison - ISO 12233 Resolution Chart Results


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