Canon Rep: "Were working on it" at DVinfo.net

Daniel Jackson · April 28th, 2009, 02:47 PM

DigitalCinemaSociety.com Video

I'm sorry if anyone has already posted this video but it is interesting if you are crossing your fingers for a firmware upgrade. A Canon representative at NAB is interviewed and towards the end of the clip answers a question about 24p and aperture. He says we're working on it and we are trying to see what we can do for THIS camera and for cameras in the future.

Jon Fairhurst · April 28th, 2009, 06:01 PM

Here's the exact quote from the video:

"...we're taking both of those features very seriously and seeing what we can do to this camera and, and, obviously in future product as well."

So, rather than "working" on it, it's more of a "looking" at it.

Dan Brockett · April 28th, 2009, 06:52 PM

IMHO, having worked with photographic and electronic manufacturers on many different levels for the past few decades, for every week that has gone by without a firmware update exponentially reduces the percentage chance that Canon will ever issue one. How long has the 5D MKII been out?

It really is looking the 5D MKIII or a video camera or a twice as expensive 1D incarnation will likely be the camera that delivers these features. It's almost May guys. But who knows? We live in strange and unprecedented times.

Dan

Glen Elliott · April 28th, 2009, 08:34 PM

I don't doubt there will be firmware update(s) but ones that will unlock the crippled video capability....doubtful. It's not in their best interest to make this cam up to snuff, even if they can. They can simply "unlock" those features in a mkIII iteration and automatically gain a great deal of perceived value for the "new" product.

They do this thing with electronics, computers, even automobiles. I was blown away when I took my stock turbo down-pipe off my STi to see that it was a solid mass with a small hole going through it. That way when the next year's model comes out they can bore it out a few cm and advertise/leverage the "new" power the most current model is making compared to the old.

Nigel Barker · April 28th, 2009, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Fairhurst

Here's the exact quote from the video:

"...we're taking both of those features very seriously and seeing what we can do to this camera and, and, obviously in future product as well."

What else did anyone expect him to say? It's a perfect example of a bland corporate statement that doesn't promise anything but doesn't rule anything out either.

Jon Fairhurst · April 28th, 2009, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Glen Elliott

...It's not in their best interest to make this cam up to snuff, even if they can...

Except for two things: many of the people who care are buying Nikon lenses, and it's of little use in PAL countries, except for on the web.

If I were them, I'd at least make the aperture controllable on Canon lenses. The camera already supports manual aperture control, if you think about it, just not with their own products.

Peer Landa · April 29th, 2009, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Glen Elliott

They do this thing with electronics, computers, even automobiles. I was blown away when I took my stock turbo down-pipe off my STi to see that it was a solid mass with a small hole going through it. That way when the next year's model comes out they can bore it out a few cm and advertise/leverage the "new" power the most current model is making compared to the old.

Yea, and they will certainly charge for it too. As I said before, as long as the MKII sells like candy, why would Canon fix something that isn't really broken, especially when Nikon hasn't come up with anything that's even remotely as hot as the (crippled) MKII?!

I seriously doubt we'll ever see any firmware fix for the MKII, but instead, down the pipe, will get a new model (a MKIII or something) that will obviously cost more but also do more (i.e., manual controls).

I bet Canon used the added video feature on the MKII as a marketing-probe, and now they know quite well what people want. Hence, I'm waiting for their next model.

-- peer

Jay Birch · April 29th, 2009, 05:35 AM

Nikon have openly addressed the issue, Panasonic knew what they were doing from the off.... and Canon "might" look into it for this model, but likely will mark up a new cam instead.

I can't wait to get away from Canon. The 5DII was might first purchase from them and will be my last....

Dylan Couper · April 29th, 2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay Birch

Nikon have openly addressed the issue, Panasonic knew what they were doing from the off.... and Canon "might" look into it for this model, but likely will mark up a new cam instead.

I can't wait to get away from Canon. The 5DII was might first purchase from them and will be my last....

I've made the jump to Panny from Canon before... and within a year was back to Canon. Panasonic may always be first with the tech and toys, but Canon rarely ever loses in the image quality department.

Dylan Couper · April 29th, 2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Peer Landa

I bet Canon used the added video feature on the MKII as a marketing-probe, and now they know quite well what people want. Hence, I'm waiting for their next model.

You are going to be waiting 2-3 years at least for a 5DmkIII. At least one more for 1 1DmkIV

Glen Elliott · April 29th, 2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay Birch

Nikon have openly addressed the issue, Panasonic knew what they were doing from the off.... and Canon "might" look into it for this model, but likely will mark up a new cam instead.

I can't wait to get away from Canon. The 5DII was might first purchase from them and will be my last....

Let me know when you want to sell yours!

Glen Elliott · April 29th, 2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dylan Couper

You are going to be waiting 2-3 years at least for a 5DmkIII. At least one more for 1 1DmkIV

Yeah I thought the same thing. The original 5D was around for years before the mkII hit. I'd venture to guess a bonified video camera with similar attributes as the 5D will appear before a mkIII. However this is only speculation.

William Chung · April 29th, 2009, 09:22 AM

If nikon does it with their cams Canon is going to do it with the 5d II. As I mentioned in another thread the whole video function on the 5d II was a reaction to the d90's video.

Jay Birch · April 29th, 2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Glen Elliott

Let me know when you want to sell yours!

I'll PM you the minute Nikon come up with a Full Frame 24p, manual solution.... wonder if you will still be interested ;-)

Steev Dinkins · April 29th, 2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay Birch

I'll PM you the minute Nikon come up with a Full Frame 24p, manual solution.... wonder if you will still be interested ;-)

I guarantee someone else will though. If Nikon delivers, that's probably when I'd sell the 5DMkII and grab the Nikon. I've got a ton of glass for it.

April 28th, 2009, 02:47 PM	#1
Daniel Jackson Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Claymont, Delaware Posts: 25	Canon Rep: "Were working on it" DigitalCinemaSociety.com Video I'm sorry if anyone has already posted this video but it is interesting if you are crossing your fingers for a firmware upgrade. A Canon representative at NAB is interviewed and towards the end of the clip answers a question about 24p and aperture. He says we're working on it and we are trying to see what we can do for THIS camera and for cameras in the future.

April 28th, 2009, 06:01 PM	#2
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	Here's the exact quote from the video: "...we're taking both of those features very seriously and seeing what we can do to this camera and, and, obviously in future product as well." So, rather than "working" on it, it's more of a "looking" at it. __________________ Jon Fairhurst

April 28th, 2009, 08:34 PM	#4
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	I don't doubt there will be firmware update(s) but ones that will unlock the crippled video capability....doubtful. It's not in their best interest to make this cam up to snuff, even if they can. They can simply "unlock" those features in a mkIII iteration and automatically gain a great deal of perceived value for the "new" product. They do this thing with electronics, computers, even automobiles. I was blown away when I took my stock turbo down-pipe off my STi to see that it was a solid mass with a small hole going through it. That way when the next year's model comes out they can bore it out a few cm and advertise/leverage the "new" power the most current model is making compared to the old. __________________ Glen Elliott Cord 3 Films

April 28th, 2009, 06:52 PM	#3
Dan Brockett Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 2,109	IMHO, having worked with photographic and electronic manufacturers on many different levels for the past few decades, for every week that has gone by without a firmware update exponentially reduces the percentage chance that Canon will ever issue one. How long has the 5D MKII been out? It really is looking the 5D MKIII or a video camera or a twice as expensive 1D incarnation will likely be the camera that delivers these features. It's almost May guys. But who knows? We live in strange and unprecedented times. Dan

April 29th, 2009, 05:35 AM	#8
Jay Birch Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Portimao Posts: 49	Nikon have openly addressed the issue, Panasonic knew what they were doing from the off.... and Canon "might" look into it for this model, but likely will mark up a new cam instead. I can't wait to get away from Canon. The 5DII was might first purchase from them and will be my last....

April 29th, 2009, 09:22 AM	#13
William Chung Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Duluth, GA Posts: 80	If nikon does it with their cams Canon is going to do it with the 5d II. As I mentioned in another thread the whole video function on the 5d II was a reaction to the d90's video.