5D mk3 new firmware now available!

John Carroll · May 3rd, 2013, 06:57 AM

Check the aspect ratio of your monitor, it most likely isn't a true 16:9. It won't ever be able to fill the full frame of your monitor if it is a different shape. It's not unusual, most on-board monitors are not true HD resolution or even 16:9. The real benefit of the clean HDMI output is for recording not really for monitoring...

John Carroll · May 3rd, 2013, 07:04 AM

Yep... just looked it up and your monitor's resolution is 1024x600, so the monitor has to do some scaling in order to display 1920x1080. Like I said, not unusual at all, even for a super duper high end monitor like yours. The good news is, you should be able to zoom in to a 1:1 pixel display on your monitor and get a great critical focus.

Niels Neeskens · May 3rd, 2013, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by John Carroll

Yep... just looked it up and your monitor's resolution is 1024x600, so the monitor has to do some scaling in order to display 1920x1080. Like I said, not unusual at all, even for a super duper high end monitor like yours. The good news is, you should be able to zoom in to a 1:1 pixel display on your monitor and get a great critical focus.

Thanks John! Pressing the info did the trick, I had to press the button until I got a full frame view from the HDMI output.

Thomas Wong · May 3rd, 2013, 08:01 PM

i plug into my Marshall 7" LCD, it fills the whole screen

Wayne Avanson · May 7th, 2013, 02:15 AM

Same with my Lilliput 7" 5DII. Downscaling is going on but the full frame pic is nice and sharp. Certainly much nicer than it was before the firmware update. And it stays full frame (or 16:9 at least which almost fills the frame) when I press the playback button which it didn't before. So although I may not be buying an external recorder just yet if at all, my monitoring has just got better.

Dave Ande · May 7th, 2013, 03:47 PM

Hey guys, I've been ready all of the post regarding the new firmware, so I decided to upgrade mine his morning. I noticed I do get full screen on my IndiPro 5" monitor without having to rescale. Now I'm trying to decide if I should get a Atomos Ninja2 or the BM Hyperdeck shuttle and use it for recording. I don't record greenscreen nor do I go overboard on color correction in post. The only benefit I can see from what I've read is that it would eliminates the 29:00 minute recording limit.

David A

Nigel Barker · May 8th, 2013, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Ande

Hey guys, I've been ready all of the post regarding the new firmware, so I decided to upgrade mine his morning. I noticed I do get full screen on my IndiPro 5" monitor without having to rescale. Now I'm trying to decide if I should get a Atomos Ninja2 or the BM Hyperdeck shuttle and use it for recording. I don't record greenscreen nor do I go overboard on color correction in post. The only benefit I can see from what I've read is that it would eliminates the 29:00 minute recording limit.

David A

Recording direct to ProRes would be a good benefit as would dual system recording simultaneously to card & HDMI recorder.

Julian Frost · May 8th, 2013, 02:36 PM

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Recording direct to ProRes would be a good benefit as would dual system recording simultaneously to card & HDMI recorder.

This brings up a question I have... if you can't record audio via the HDMI output to an external recorder ATOMOS etc), then you're back to syncing via a slate, rather than being able to sync by matching audio waveforms (EG using PluralEyes), right?

James Strange · May 8th, 2013, 09:21 PM

From what I've seen online Julian , if you run a 3.5mm mini jack audio cable frm the 5d3 to the ninja, you'll have audio.

A very in depth video in using the 5d3 and ninja 2

Wayne Avanson · May 10th, 2013, 07:38 AM

…but not the BMD Hyperdeck Shuttle unfortunately. No external audio in for that.

Julian Frost · May 10th, 2013, 09:39 AM

The audio-in on the Ninja 2 is line-in level, not mic-level, so you can't plug an external mic directly into it. However, you can put an external mic on the camera, and then feed the Ninja 2 with a stereo cable from the camera's headphone socket. Atomos told me there are no latency issues by doing it that way, and, looking at the photos of the menus, it appears you can adjust the audio by any number of frames anyway.

May 3rd, 2013, 06:57 AM	#16
John Carroll Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 156	Re: 5D mk3 new firmware now available! Check the aspect ratio of your monitor, it most likely isn't a true 16:9. It won't ever be able to fill the full frame of your monitor if it is a different shape. It's not unusual, most on-board monitors are not true HD resolution or even 16:9. The real benefit of the clean HDMI output is for recording not really for monitoring...

May 3rd, 2013, 07:04 AM	#17
John Carroll Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 156	Re: 5D mk3 new firmware now available! Yep... just looked it up and your monitor's resolution is 1024x600, so the monitor has to do some scaling in order to display 1920x1080. Like I said, not unusual at all, even for a super duper high end monitor like yours. The good news is, you should be able to zoom in to a 1:1 pixel display on your monitor and get a great critical focus.

May 3rd, 2013, 08:01 PM	#19
Thomas Wong Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 144	Re: 5D mk3 new firmware now available! i plug into my Marshall 7" LCD, it fills the whole screen

May 7th, 2013, 02:15 AM	#20
Wayne Avanson Major Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lancashire UK Posts: 496	Re: 5D mk3 new firmware now available! Same with my Lilliput 7" 5DII. Downscaling is going on but the full frame pic is nice and sharp. Certainly much nicer than it was before the firmware update. And it stays full frame (or 16:9 at least which almost fills the frame) when I press the playback button which it didn't before. So although I may not be buying an external recorder just yet if at all, my monitoring has just got better. __________________ Avey theactionhouse.com

May 7th, 2013, 03:47 PM	#21
Dave Ande Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Tulsa Oklahoma Posts: 35	Re: 5D mk3 new firmware now available! Hey guys, I've been ready all of the post regarding the new firmware, so I decided to upgrade mine his morning. I noticed I do get full screen on my IndiPro 5" monitor without having to rescale. Now I'm trying to decide if I should get a Atomos Ninja2 or the BM Hyperdeck shuttle and use it for recording. I don't record greenscreen nor do I go overboard on color correction in post. The only benefit I can see from what I've read is that it would eliminates the 29:00 minute recording limit. David A

May 8th, 2013, 09:21 PM	#24
James Strange Major Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Glasgow, Scotland, UK Posts: 309	Re: 5D mk3 new firmware now available! From what I've seen online Julian , if you run a 3.5mm mini jack audio cable frm the 5d3 to the ninja, you'll have audio. Canon 5D Mark III & Atomos Ninja 2 ...finally on Vimeo A very in depth video in using the 5d3 and ninja 2 Last edited by James Strange; May 8th, 2013 at 09:22 PM. Reason: Double link

May 10th, 2013, 07:38 AM	#25
Wayne Avanson Major Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lancashire UK Posts: 496	Re: 5D mk3 new firmware now available! …but not the BMD Hyperdeck Shuttle unfortunately. No external audio in for that. __________________ Avey theactionhouse.com

May 10th, 2013, 09:39 AM	#26
Julian Frost Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: California USA Posts: 576	Re: 5D mk3 new firmware now available! The audio-in on the Ninja 2 is line-in level, not mic-level, so you can't plug an external mic directly into it. However, you can put an external mic on the camera, and then feed the Ninja 2 with a stereo cable from the camera's headphone socket. Atomos told me there are no latency issues by doing it that way, and, looking at the photos of the menus, it appears you can adjust the audio by any number of frames anyway.