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Old June 15th, 2006, 03:29 AM   #1
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ND filters!

I film most of my work, at the moment, in bright sunshine and keep getting the signal to attached an external ND filter. Which filter will I need: x2, x4, etc!

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Old June 15th, 2006, 04:01 AM   #2
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ok .. have you actually "used" the built in ND filter yet? Button for this is located - looking from behind camera - high on the left hand side, next/alongside to the Manual Focus button . This will invoke the built in 0.9ND. But are you asking for FURTHER NDs? Beyond the camera's one?

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Old June 15th, 2006, 04:42 AM   #3
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After I've used the internal ND filter I still get a 'on' indicating to fit an external ND filter! Yes I'm asking for more ND filters to fit onto the 58mm thread.
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Old June 15th, 2006, 06:09 AM   #4
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After I've used the internal ND filter I still get a 'on' indicating to fit an external ND filter! Yes I'm asking for more ND filters to fit onto the 58mm thread.
Have you tried to reduce the IRIS or shutter speed?

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Old June 15th, 2006, 08:17 AM   #5
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After I've used the internal ND filter I still get a 'on' indicating to fit an external ND filter!
The camera is simply telling you that the filter is being used. It flashes when it wants you to add the filter.

The built-in filter should be more than enough (unless you want to use further filtration to allow a wider aperture and thus shallower depth of field). If the image is too bright, close down your iris or speed up your shutter.
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Old June 15th, 2006, 08:35 AM   #6
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Thanks Jarrod - Yup, "Speed Up" the shutter speed. I didn't make it clear enough.
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Old June 15th, 2006, 08:47 AM   #7
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Raymond,

If you have the built-in ND engaged and you are still overexposed (it must be very bright out), you can add a 58mm ND filter. Which one? It depends on how wide you want the iris to open (if you're going for shallow DOF), or how bright it is in any given circumstances. I recommend having a .3, .6, and .9 around at all times, to adjust to any given circumstance. You can combine them if you need more power.

However, since you have a built-in .9, the .3 and .6 should give you all the flexibility you need.

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Old June 15th, 2006, 08:47 AM   #8
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i find this to on some sunny days in england, that its not possible to get a decent exposure. ND2 is a very subtle filter, so you will need to gauge how much you need.
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Old June 15th, 2006, 09:07 AM   #9
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i find this to on some sunny days in england, that its not possible to get a decent exposure. ND2 is a very subtle filter, so you will need to gauge how much you need.
Yes, if I want to stay around 1.8 or 1.6 on a sunny day to get that elusive shallow DoF I use .6 + .9 ND PLUS the onboard ND. Gives me about 2.4 of ND. I use a matte biox to achieve this.

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Old June 15th, 2006, 09:19 AM   #10
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What I will also add is that it was when I started to use extra ND filters that this remarkable camera gave me things I never knew it could produce. This camera LOVES bright sunlight - but always wear protection!!

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Old July 30th, 2006, 09:31 AM   #11
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exra nd

Grazie,

thanks for the last post!!! Here in the prairies summer sun, and winter sun (with snow reflecting light everywhere) are really harsh. I have to use both the enternal nds almost all the time.
You thumbnail picture was brilliant, I will purchase a couple more nd filters!!!
I appreciate your time and advice!!
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