24P PS3 format ? at DVinfo.net

Joey Atilano · August 10th, 2007, 09:26 AM

Hey guys I want to try some 24P footage but I noticed last night that there is no HDV 24P format to render to in Vegas 7. I usually edit my movies back to 1080i HDV so I can play them on my PS3. I have a huge hd playlist of home movies on my PS3.

Any ideas ?

Eugenia Loli-Queru · August 10th, 2007, 01:09 PM

You can try to export as h.264 instead, which does not have such limitations. Although be aware, it's an exercise in patience if you are not using Premiere:
http://eugenia.blogsome.com/?s=ghosting

At the long end, I decided to do everything with ffmpeg after exporting through Vegas as "untitled.avi" using the Huffyuv lossless codec with YUV2 color coding, using 2 passes:

ffmpeg.exe -deinterlace -y -i "Huffyuv-lossless.avi" -threads 2 -an -pass 1 -f mp4 -title "XXXXX" -vcodec h264 -level 41 -refs 2 -loop 1 -deblockalpha 0 -deblockbeta 0 -parti4x4 1 -partp8x8 1 -partb8x8 1 -me full -subq 6 -brdo 1 -me_range 21 -s 1920x1080 -r 24000/1001 -b 8192k -bt 8192k -bufsize 20000k -maxrate 25000k -g 300 -coder 1 -acodec aac -ac 2 -ab 128k "1080p-24.mp4"

ffmpeg.exe -deinterlace -y -i "Huffyuv-lossless.avi" -threads 2 -an -pass 2 -f mp4 -title "XXXXX" -vcodec h264 -level 41 -refs 2 -loop 1 -deblockalpha 0 -deblockbeta 0 -parti4x4 1 -partp8x8 1 -partb8x8 1 -me full -subq 6 -brdo 1 -me_range 21 -s 1920x1080 -r 24000/1001 -b 8192k -bt 8192k -bufsize 20000k -maxrate 25000k -g 300 -coder 1 -acodec aac -ac 2 -ab 128k "1080p-24.mp4"

Change the filenames appropriately, and the video title from XXXX to whatever you want. You will have to install the Huffyuv free codec btw before you can export with it from Vegas, and as I said above, change its color settings to YUV2. Otherwise, ffmpeg will not work properly with it. The other free lossless codec, Lagarith, does not work with ffmpeg.

Joseph H. Moore · August 10th, 2007, 02:38 PM

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ffmpeg.exe -deinterlace -y -i "Huffyuv-lossless.avi" -threads 2 -an -pass 1 -f mp4 -title "XXXXX" -vcodec h264 -level 41 -refs 2 -loop 1 -deblockalpha 0 -deblockbeta 0 -parti4x4 1 -partp8x8 1 -partb8x8 1 -me full -subq 6 -brdo 1 -me_range 21 -s 1920x1080 -r 24000/1001 -b 8192k -bt 8192k -bufsize 20000k -maxrate 25000k -g 300 -coder 1 -acodec aac -ac 2 -ab 128k "1080p-24.mp4"

ffmpeg.exe -deinterlace -y -i "Huffyuv-lossless.avi" -threads 2 -an -pass 2 -f mp4 -title "XXXXX" -vcodec h264 -level 41 -refs 2 -loop 1 -deblockalpha 0 -deblockbeta 0 -parti4x4 1 -partp8x8 1 -partb8x8 1 -me full -subq 6 -brdo 1 -me_range 21 -s 1920x1080 -r 24000/1001 -b 8192k -bt 8192k -bufsize 20000k -maxrate 25000k -g 300 -coder 1 -acodec aac -ac 2 -ab 128k "1080p-24.mp4"

Man, I'm glad I use Macs. I kid. I'm a kidder. ;-)

Joey Atilano · August 10th, 2007, 02:52 PM

Thanks Eugenia

I checked out your site and wow lots of info .

I read something that cought my eye . You said you still get ghosting after de-interlacing an avi but not on mpeg2. How would I de-interlace my 1080 60i m2t's and make them play on my ps3 ? I do lots of slow-mo and I always get ghosting ,but I usually my de-interlacing only goes as far as rendering in vegas 7 to 720P.

That would be the holy grail for me right now.

Thanks Joey

Eugenia Loli-Queru · August 10th, 2007, 05:44 PM

ok, here's what you can do on Vegas to actually export the .avi as progressive with no ghosting:
Load your HDV file and tell it in the project properties to be "none, progressive", and to INTERPOLATE fileds instead of blending them. Then, save in a *lossless* format, like Huffyuv (download the free codec and install it). Then, use ffmpeg as I showed you above, but, remove the -deinterlace option. So, you can choose to de-interlace inside vegas, or on ffmpeg.

BTW, to get that particular version of ffmpeg, install "PS3Video9" application and "steal" its ffmpeg.exe file and use that on the command line.

>Man, I'm glad I use Macs

Under the Mac, the ffmpeg command line looks exactly the same. The FFmpegX GUI for Mac OS X does not provide all the flexibility the command line version does.

Eugenia Loli-Queru · August 11th, 2007, 03:52 PM

Ok, I spent the time to actually write a detailed tutorial on how to do this:
http://eugenia.blogsome.com/2007/08/...box360appletv/
I am using Vegas Movie Studio 8 Platinum as the main exporter. Feel free to ask questions on my blog, or email me directly.

Joseph H. Moore · August 11th, 2007, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Under the Mac, the ffmpeg command line looks exactly the same.

I know, but thanks to tools like Compressor, Handbrake, etc. I rarely ever have to resort to it.

Eugenia Loli-Queru · August 11th, 2007, 04:22 PM

As I wrote in the article, FCP and Premiere are advanced enough to do the job the right way. But Handbrake or FFmpegX won't. If you want *automatic* letterboxing for example, or de-interlacing without ghosting, good luck with that. Sometimes, if you want flexibility, you need to go down dirty with the command line. Thankfully, in my tutorial I include some templates so people won't have to deal with the command line.

August 10th, 2007, 09:26 AM	#1
Joey Atilano Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Garden Grove CA Posts: 239	24P PS3 format ? Hey guys I want to try some 24P footage but I noticed last night that there is no HDV 24P format to render to in Vegas 7. I usually edit my movies back to 1080i HDV so I can play them on my PS3. I have a huge hd playlist of home movies on my PS3. Any ideas ? __________________ My videos http://www.youtube.com/user/lucasberg

August 10th, 2007, 02:52 PM	#4
Joey Atilano Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Garden Grove CA Posts: 239	Thanks Eugenia I checked out your site and wow lots of info . I read something that cought my eye . You said you still get ghosting after de-interlacing an avi but not on mpeg2. How would I de-interlace my 1080 60i m2t's and make them play on my ps3 ? I do lots of slow-mo and I always get ghosting ,but I usually my de-interlacing only goes as far as rendering in vegas 7 to 720P. That would be the holy grail for me right now. Thanks Joey __________________ My videos http://www.youtube.com/user/lucasberg

August 10th, 2007, 01:09 PM	#2
Eugenia Loli-Queru Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA, USA Posts: 348	You can try to export as h.264 instead, which does not have such limitations. Although be aware, it's an exercise in patience if you are not using Premiere: http://eugenia.blogsome.com/?s=ghosting At the long end, I decided to do everything with ffmpeg after exporting through Vegas as "untitled.avi" using the Huffyuv lossless codec with YUV2 color coding, using 2 passes: ffmpeg.exe -deinterlace -y -i "Huffyuv-lossless.avi" -threads 2 -an -pass 1 -f mp4 -title "XXXXX" -vcodec h264 -level 41 -refs 2 -loop 1 -deblockalpha 0 -deblockbeta 0 -parti4x4 1 -partp8x8 1 -partb8x8 1 -me full -subq 6 -brdo 1 -me_range 21 -s 1920x1080 -r 24000/1001 -b 8192k -bt 8192k -bufsize 20000k -maxrate 25000k -g 300 -coder 1 -acodec aac -ac 2 -ab 128k "1080p-24.mp4" ffmpeg.exe -deinterlace -y -i "Huffyuv-lossless.avi" -threads 2 -an -pass 2 -f mp4 -title "XXXXX" -vcodec h264 -level 41 -refs 2 -loop 1 -deblockalpha 0 -deblockbeta 0 -parti4x4 1 -partp8x8 1 -partb8x8 1 -me full -subq 6 -brdo 1 -me_range 21 -s 1920x1080 -r 24000/1001 -b 8192k -bt 8192k -bufsize 20000k -maxrate 25000k -g 300 -coder 1 -acodec aac -ac 2 -ab 128k "1080p-24.mp4" Change the filenames appropriately, and the video title from XXXX to whatever you want. You will have to install the Huffyuv free codec btw before you can export with it from Vegas, and as I said above, change its color settings to YUV2. Otherwise, ffmpeg will not work properly with it. The other free lossless codec, Lagarith, does not work with ffmpeg.

August 10th, 2007, 05:44 PM	#5
Eugenia Loli-Queru Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA, USA Posts: 348	ok, here's what you can do on Vegas to actually export the .avi as progressive with no ghosting: Load your HDV file and tell it in the project properties to be "none, progressive", and to INTERPOLATE fileds instead of blending them. Then, save in a lossless format, like Huffyuv (download the free codec and install it). Then, use ffmpeg as I showed you above, but, remove the -deinterlace option. So, you can choose to de-interlace inside vegas, or on ffmpeg. BTW, to get that particular version of ffmpeg, install "PS3Video9" application and "steal" its ffmpeg.exe file and use that on the command line. >Man, I'm glad I use Macs Under the Mac, the ffmpeg command line looks exactly the same. The FFmpegX GUI for Mac OS X does not provide all the flexibility the command line version does.

August 11th, 2007, 03:52 PM	#6
Eugenia Loli-Queru Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA, USA Posts: 348	Ok, I spent the time to actually write a detailed tutorial on how to do this: http://eugenia.blogsome.com/2007/08/...box360appletv/ I am using Vegas Movie Studio 8 Platinum as the main exporter. Feel free to ask questions on my blog, or email me directly.

August 11th, 2007, 04:22 PM	#8
Eugenia Loli-Queru Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA, USA Posts: 348	As I wrote in the article, FCP and Premiere are advanced enough to do the job the right way. But Handbrake or FFmpegX won't. If you want automatic letterboxing for example, or de-interlacing without ghosting, good luck with that. Sometimes, if you want flexibility, you need to go down dirty with the command line. Thankfully, in my tutorial I include some templates so people won't have to deal with the command line.