24P stuttering, lets compare HG10 to HV20

Les Dit · November 23rd, 2007, 12:44 PM

Just to cap off the subject, there is no difference in strobing or stuttering between the HG10 and HV20.

See the thread "hg10 vs hv20 vs xha1"

Another site is incorrect at slamming the HG10 in that respect, it turns out.
-Les

Michiael Iper · November 24th, 2007, 08:25 AM

thanks, Les,
you guys' review is the most important reason that I decided to order hg10 instead of hv20.

Michael Eskin · November 24th, 2007, 11:58 AM

I agree, I've been seriously considering upgrading from a Panasonic HDC-SD1 to an HG10 and spent a lot of time yesterday confirming that with the CoreAVC decoder installer and the latest version of Cineform HDLink that I was able to transcode absolutely smooth 24P content from the available samples posted, so I'll probably pick one up this weekend.

As stated previously, the key seems to be to have a h.264 video decoder that allows disabling of any decoder based deinterlacing, for the CoreAVC decoder, I set the deinterlace to force Weave (no deinterlacing) and disabled the "Aggressive deinterlacing" option. I also had to specifically uninstall PowerDVD, which was being used as the default h.264 renderer previously. When installing CoreAVC, when it runs the Haali Media Splitter installer, make sure to disable all default file format handling (AVI, TS, etc.) as this will cause the Haali Splitter to be brought into the filter graph as a standalone filter rather than as a combined file source and splitter.

Once you can drop your .MTS (I rename them .m2ts) files onto GraphEdit (part of the Microsoft DirectX SDK) and have the following filter graph generated, you'll probably be golden:

http://members.cox.net/eskin3/coreavc_filter_graph.jpg

November 23rd, 2007, 12:44 PM	#16
Les Dit Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southern Cal-ee-for-Ni-ya Posts: 608	So there is no difference Just to cap off the subject, there is no difference in strobing or stuttering between the HG10 and HV20. See the thread "hg10 vs hv20 vs xha1" Another site is incorrect at slamming the HG10 in that respect, it turns out. -Les

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November 24th, 2007, 08:25 AM	#17
Michiael Iper Tourist Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York Posts: 3	thanks, Les, you guys' review is the most important reason that I decided to order hg10 instead of hv20.

November 24th, 2007, 11:58 AM	#18
Michael Eskin Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 73	I agree, I've been seriously considering upgrading from a Panasonic HDC-SD1 to an HG10 and spent a lot of time yesterday confirming that with the CoreAVC decoder installer and the latest version of Cineform HDLink that I was able to transcode absolutely smooth 24P content from the available samples posted, so I'll probably pick one up this weekend. As stated previously, the key seems to be to have a h.264 video decoder that allows disabling of any decoder based deinterlacing, for the CoreAVC decoder, I set the deinterlace to force Weave (no deinterlacing) and disabled the "Aggressive deinterlacing" option. I also had to specifically uninstall PowerDVD, which was being used as the default h.264 renderer previously. When installing CoreAVC, when it runs the Haali Media Splitter installer, make sure to disable all default file format handling (AVI, TS, etc.) as this will cause the Haali Splitter to be brought into the filter graph as a standalone filter rather than as a combined file source and splitter. Once you can drop your .MTS (I rename them .m2ts) files onto GraphEdit (part of the Microsoft DirectX SDK) and have the following filter graph generated, you'll probably be golden: http://members.cox.net/eskin3/coreavc_filter_graph.jpg