Any UK date and Price?

Stu Holmes · August 10th, 2006, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Doherty

Because Canon don't make any camcorders in Europe I think they get hit by EU anti-dumping tariffs which can be severe.

Neither does Sony make any camcorders in Europe....

Stu Holmes · August 10th, 2006, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donald White

B & H has just listed the HV10 at $1499...

Its now listed as $1299 at B&H.

Donald White · August 10th, 2006, 06:04 PM

You should have been there this morning - $1499, bigger than life!!!
... and things get changed.

Ian Sturtivant · August 11th, 2006, 07:16 AM

It's disappeared off my German site now, which is odd.

I have an HDTV that autoswitches PAL/NTSC; an HD network Media Player that outputs NTSC/PAL, and of course an NLE can output either, so is there anything to stop me in the UK buying and using a US model from B&H and saving some cash?

EDIT: OK, I found out. I'll get flickering on indoor shots under lights. 50Hz:60Hz

Thomas Richter · August 11th, 2006, 02:08 PM

Plus you will usually have to pay a nasty little charge to customs (import tariffs + VAT).

On the topic of price difference, I think the anti dumping regulation may be a reason. Although it is stupid, there isn't really any European consumer cam producer to protect.

May the WTO succeed in bringing the evil video cam tariffs down ;-)

Ian Sturtivant · August 11th, 2006, 02:14 PM

I'd suggest a flight to NYC but at present it's maybe not a good idea. :o

Stu Holmes · August 11th, 2006, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donald White

You should have been there this morning - $1499, bigger than life!!!
... and things get changed.

thats very odd ! Either B&H made a mistake in their pricing or it WAS intended to be $1499 and then Canon or B&H decided that was too high?

Sharyn Ferrick · August 11th, 2006, 04:16 PM

The duty in to the UK for a camcorder that can record via inputs other than the lens, is 14% and then you have vat at 17.5%
Back in the days of no dv in on camcorders this stuff was a major topic of discussion, the duty was placed to protect the eu vcr industry ???

SHARYN

Ian Sturtivant · August 11th, 2006, 05:53 PM

Does it record, other than via the lens?

Sharyn Ferrick · August 11th, 2006, 09:46 PM

IF the eu version does have the analog in recording ability, then it would be classed as a vcr. BTW Sony does make some high end broadcast camerals in wales Some of the broadcast stuff is subject to 103percent duty, which is why Sony did it (THOMPSON was very effective in getting duty protectin for themselves )
http://www.information.wales.gov.uk/...96-email-e.htm

Sharyn

Ian Sturtivant · August 12th, 2006, 06:04 PM

In the UK we have an expression, "A load of old 80ll0cks." I feel this is aposite applied to the camcorder VCR duty situation.

Thompson, eh? A camcorder manufacturer of repute, I think not.

Magnus Andersen · August 19th, 2006, 04:49 PM

Hello All!

The HV10 is now listed on one swedish site at the price of 12795 SEK, that is about 1782 USD, hehe. That is including our lovely 25% Sales tax.
Here is the link http://www.scandinavianphoto.se/?31767
The HC3 is listed at 14995 SEK at that site which is quite high (can be found for around 12000 SEK at other swedish stores), so I am guessing that is the MSRP.
I can't wait to see some footage from that cam, hehe.

Best, Magnus.

Ian Sturtivant · August 19th, 2006, 04:59 PM

I'm not sure. Is Sweden in the EU?

Magnus Andersen · August 19th, 2006, 07:20 PM

Hello Ian!

Yes, Sweden is in the EU.
I also found some prices from Germany: http://www.pricerunner.de/unterhaltu...sort=3&noidx=1
I checked but it doesn't seem to be listed yet on the UK version of Pricerunner.

Best, Magnus.

Ian Sturtivant · August 20th, 2006, 03:57 AM

Thanks Magnus.

Had a look at that German link. I think "Sofort lieferbar" has be to be a bit optimistic.

August 11th, 2006, 07:16 AM	#19
Ian Sturtivant Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chester, England Posts: 26	It's disappeared off my German site now, which is odd. I have an HDTV that autoswitches PAL/NTSC; an HD network Media Player that outputs NTSC/PAL, and of course an NLE can output either, so is there anything to stop me in the UK buying and using a US model from B&H and saving some cash? EDIT: OK, I found out. I'll get flickering on indoor shots under lights. 50Hz:60Hz __________________ www.marketchecker.co.uk

August 11th, 2006, 02:14 PM	#21
Ian Sturtivant Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chester, England Posts: 26	I'd suggest a flight to NYC but at present it's maybe not a good idea. :o __________________ www.marketchecker.co.uk

August 11th, 2006, 05:53 PM	#24
Ian Sturtivant Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chester, England Posts: 26	Does it record, other than via the lens? __________________ www.marketchecker.co.uk

August 12th, 2006, 06:04 PM	#26
Ian Sturtivant Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chester, England Posts: 26	In the UK we have an expression, "A load of old 80ll0cks." I feel this is aposite applied to the camcorder VCR duty situation. Thompson, eh? A camcorder manufacturer of repute, I think not. __________________ www.marketchecker.co.uk

August 19th, 2006, 04:59 PM	#28
Ian Sturtivant Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chester, England Posts: 26	I'm not sure. Is Sweden in the EU? __________________ www.marketchecker.co.uk

August 10th, 2006, 06:04 PM	#18
Donald White Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 54	You should have been there this morning - $1499, bigger than life!!! ... and things get changed.

August 11th, 2006, 02:08 PM	#20
Thomas Richter Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 181	Plus you will usually have to pay a nasty little charge to customs (import tariffs + VAT). On the topic of price difference, I think the anti dumping regulation may be a reason. Although it is stupid, there isn't really any European consumer cam producer to protect. May the WTO succeed in bringing the evil video cam tariffs down ;-)

August 11th, 2006, 04:16 PM	#23
Sharyn Ferrick Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sitka Alaska Posts: 128	The duty in to the UK for a camcorder that can record via inputs other than the lens, is 14% and then you have vat at 17.5% Back in the days of no dv in on camcorders this stuff was a major topic of discussion, the duty was placed to protect the eu vcr industry ??? SHARYN

August 11th, 2006, 09:46 PM	#25
Sharyn Ferrick Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sitka Alaska Posts: 128	IF the eu version does have the analog in recording ability, then it would be classed as a vcr. BTW Sony does make some high end broadcast camerals in wales Some of the broadcast stuff is subject to 103percent duty, which is why Sony did it (THOMPSON was very effective in getting duty protectin for themselves ) http://www.information.wales.gov.uk/...96-email-e.htm Sharyn

August 19th, 2006, 04:49 PM	#27
Magnus Andersen New Boot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 15	Hello All! The HV10 is now listed on one swedish site at the price of 12795 SEK, that is about 1782 USD, hehe. That is including our lovely 25% Sales tax. Here is the link http://www.scandinavianphoto.se/?31767 The HC3 is listed at 14995 SEK at that site which is quite high (can be found for around 12000 SEK at other swedish stores), so I am guessing that is the MSRP. I can't wait to see some footage from that cam, hehe. Best, Magnus.

August 19th, 2006, 07:20 PM	#29
Magnus Andersen New Boot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 15	Hello Ian! Yes, Sweden is in the EU. I also found some prices from Germany: http://www.pricerunner.de/unterhaltu...sort=3&noidx=1 I checked but it doesn't seem to be listed yet on the UK version of Pricerunner. Best, Magnus.

August 20th, 2006, 03:57 AM	#30
Ian Sturtivant Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chester, England Posts: 26	Thanks Magnus. Had a look at that German link. I think "Sofort lieferbar" has be to be a bit optimistic. __________________ www.marketchecker.co.uk