Canon XHA1 vs. HV10 zoom range at DVinfo.net

Holly Rognan · February 2nd, 2007, 03:11 PM

Just for those interested. I compared the range on the lens for both of the camcorders. I set the A1 to read out zoom in numbers and I zoomed in until I was wide as the HV10 on the widest setting and got about 20. I then zoomed in the HV10 and matched the A1 and got 95.

So essentially, the Hv10 has almost as much reach as the A1, but not even close to being as wide. The range comparison is 20-95.

I dont know if this is useful to anyone.

Chris Hurd · February 2nd, 2007, 03:20 PM

Actually it's very useful. Thanks a bunch Holly,

Tim Le · February 2nd, 2007, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holly Rognan

So essentially, the Hv10 has almost as much reach as the A1, but not even close to being as wide. The range comparison is 20-95.

Hmm, that doesn't seem right. The 35mm equivalents for the two cameras in 16:9 mode are:

HV10: 43.6-436mm
XH-A1: 32.5-650mm

That extra 200mm on the A1 should give it noticeable more reach than the HV10. Maybe the zoom scale isn't linear?

Holly Rognan · February 2nd, 2007, 05:05 PM

I don't think it is linear, probably curvelinear. For example, a '50' doesn't mean you are half way through the range.

Chris Hurd · February 2nd, 2007, 05:24 PM

The zoom scale is definitely NOT rectilinear on any of these camcorders.

Mathieu Kassovitz · February 2nd, 2007, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Le

That extra 200mm on the A1 should give it noticeable more reach than the HV10.

But there is a 1.7 X tele available out there. . .that will increase the range. . .

Chris Hurd · February 2nd, 2007, 09:35 PM

There's a 0.7x wide converter as well, which increases the range in the other direction.

Brad Vaughan · February 2nd, 2007, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mathieu Kassovitz

But there is a 1.7 X tele available out there. . .that will increase the range. . .

For the HV10 or A1?

Mike Horrigan · February 3rd, 2007, 08:05 AM

There is a 1.7x magnification (the TL43) and a .7x Wide (WD43) for the HV20.

Not sure about the HV10.

Mike

Chris Hurd · February 3rd, 2007, 09:14 AM

See http://www.hdvinfo.net/articles/cano...rehv10hv20.php for HV10 wide & tele converters.

Brad Vaughan · February 3rd, 2007, 09:45 AM

Thanks Chris.

How about a Macro lens for the HV10?

Are there any out there that will work even though they are not specifically designed for the HV10?

Chris Hurd · February 3rd, 2007, 09:53 AM

Any 37mm attachment will work (if you can find that size, otherwise use step-down or step-up rings), providing that the glass resolves for HD. As always, you get what you pay for (avoid cheap stuff).

Brad Vaughan · February 3rd, 2007, 01:15 PM

Roger that. I learned that lesson last week when I bought a cheap 2x Telephoto lens from BestBuy...awful awful IQ.

Thanks again you Generous Guru of DVi.net!!

February 2nd, 2007, 03:11 PM	#1
Holly Rognan Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Coalville America Posts: 244	Canon XHA1 vs. HV10 zoom range Just for those interested. I compared the range on the lens for both of the camcorders. I set the A1 to read out zoom in numbers and I zoomed in until I was wide as the HV10 on the widest setting and got about 20. I then zoomed in the HV10 and matched the A1 and got 95. So essentially, the Hv10 has almost as much reach as the A1, but not even close to being as wide. The range comparison is 20-95. I dont know if this is useful to anyone.

February 2nd, 2007, 03:20 PM	#2
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February 2nd, 2007, 05:24 PM	#5
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	The zoom scale is definitely NOT rectilinear on any of these camcorders. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 2nd, 2007, 09:35 PM	#7
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	There's a 0.7x wide converter as well, which increases the range in the other direction. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 3rd, 2007, 08:05 AM	#9
Mike Horrigan Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ottawa Canada Posts: 755	There is a 1.7x magnification (the TL43) and a .7x Wide (WD43) for the HV20. Not sure about the HV10. Mike __________________ My short films... The Interview & Calls From The Führerbunker

February 2nd, 2007, 05:05 PM	#4
Holly Rognan Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Coalville America Posts: 244	I don't think it is linear, probably curvelinear. For example, a '50' doesn't mean you are half way through the range.

February 3rd, 2007, 09:14 AM	#10
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	See http://www.hdvinfo.net/articles/cano...rehv10hv20.php for HV10 wide & tele converters. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 3rd, 2007, 09:45 AM	#11
Brad Vaughan Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Va Beach, Va Posts: 241	Thanks Chris. How about a Macro lens for the HV10? Are there any out there that will work even though they are not specifically designed for the HV10?

February 3rd, 2007, 09:53 AM	#12
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Any 37mm attachment will work (if you can find that size, otherwise use step-down or step-up rings), providing that the glass resolves for HD. As always, you get what you pay for (avoid cheap stuff). __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 3rd, 2007, 01:15 PM	#13
Brad Vaughan Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Va Beach, Va Posts: 241	Roger that. I learned that lesson last week when I bought a cheap 2x Telephoto lens from BestBuy...awful awful IQ. Thanks again you Generous Guru of DVi.net!!