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Greg Clark · February 14th, 2007, 07:54 AM

I can't get my HV10 to playback on 4:3 TV with only composite in. Any solutions?

Rich Dykmans · February 14th, 2007, 08:12 AM

There's a setting in the play mode menu for SD out, I believe it's called DV out. Did you set the cam to that?

Robert Ducon · February 15th, 2007, 01:29 PM

Can the HV10/HV20 do real time conversion of HD to SD out? (Like a Sony Z1U/FX1 does.)

Say I shoot a HD scene, and don't have an HDTV nearby, can I set it to down-scale the footage so I can jack it into an SDTV and watch? (Letterboxed or cropped as the SDTV is 4:3).

Thanks.

Pieter Jongerius · February 15th, 2007, 02:08 PM

Robert, Yes, according to Chris's overview:
http://www.hdvinfo.net/articles/cano...rehv10hv20.php

I would hope that it would output full resolution anamorphic instead of letterboxed.

Rich Dykmans · February 15th, 2007, 06:16 PM

It's letterboxed.

Pieter Jongerius · February 16th, 2007, 02:05 PM

Bummer.

Ah well they must have thought - this is the compatibility mode, let's make it compatible.

Colin Gould · February 16th, 2007, 10:15 PM

You should be able to set the TV Type in playback settings, eg 16:9 or 4:3, for composite and ?component outputs... can't test right now as I can't find my video cable :-P

But, you should be able to play 16:9 format video in either letterboxed on 4:3 TVs, or normal on 16:9 TVs, just set output to match the TV type.
I don't think it would have an option to zoom/crop ws video to 4:3 tv, only letterbox...

manual p34: Play/Out Setup:
"NORMAL TV], [ WIDE TV]
In order to display the picture in full and in
the correct aspect ratio, select the setting
according to the type of television to
which you will connect the camcorder.
[NORMAL TV]: TV sets with 4:3 aspect ratio.
[WIDE TV]: TV sets with 16:9 aspect ratio.

You can set the component output to be 480i or 1080i.

p59:
"Playback on a TV Screen
The quality of the playback picture will
vary depending on the connected TV and
the type of connection used.
Change the following settings as
necessary before making the
connections. Refer to the corresponding
explanation of each setting in the
PLAY/OUT SETUP menu option list ( 34).
- [PLAYBACK STD] to select the output video standard.
- [TV TYPE] to match the output video to the aspect ratio of the connected TV.
- [COMP.OUT] to select the video specifications when using connection type .
- [DV OUTPUT] to select the standard of the output video when using connection type ."

Kevin A. Sturges · February 17th, 2007, 12:06 AM

That is correct. You can playback HV10 HD footage to an SD TV and it down converts in real time. Either letterboxed 16:9 or full 4:3. The full mode is squeezed vertically to allow the entire frame.

Greg Clark · February 17th, 2007, 10:06 AM

I started this thread and thank you for all your suggestions but when I connect the HV10 to Normal TV it will only playback sound no picture. This Toshiba 4:3 TV has three settings TV, Video 1 and Video 2.

Colin Gould · February 17th, 2007, 10:35 AM

Sorry your post got kind of hijacked!
Perhaps the video cable isn't fully plugged in? It has an extra contact around the barrel for the video signal, along w/ normal stereo minijack contacts, and might not be in far enough to contact... ?
Otherwise, there may also be a setting on your TV to select S-Video or composite in, maybe it's on SVideo?

Greg Clark · February 19th, 2007, 06:58 PM

On this Toshiba TV the only way it would work was hooking it up to Video 2 not Video 1. Strange. Thanks for your help.

February 14th, 2007, 07:54 AM	#1
Greg Clark Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Surprise Arizona Posts: 297	Playback through Composite I can't get my HV10 to playback on 4:3 TV with only composite in. Any solutions?

February 15th, 2007, 01:29 PM	#3
Robert Ducon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Victoria BC Posts: 400	Can the HV10/HV20 do real time conversion of HD to SD out? (Like a Sony Z1U/FX1 does.) Say I shoot a HD scene, and don't have an HDTV nearby, can I set it to down-scale the footage so I can jack it into an SDTV and watch? (Letterboxed or cropped as the SDTV is 4:3). Thanks. __________________ Mac + Canon HV20

February 17th, 2007, 10:06 AM	#9
Greg Clark Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Surprise Arizona Posts: 297	Still no picture I started this thread and thank you for all your suggestions but when I connect the HV10 to Normal TV it will only playback sound no picture. This Toshiba 4:3 TV has three settings TV, Video 1 and Video 2.

February 19th, 2007, 06:58 PM	#11
Greg Clark Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Surprise Arizona Posts: 297	It works On this Toshiba TV the only way it would work was hooking it up to Video 2 not Video 1. Strange. Thanks for your help.

February 14th, 2007, 08:12 AM	#2
Rich Dykmans Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Discovery Bay, CA Posts: 138	There's a setting in the play mode menu for SD out, I believe it's called DV out. Did you set the cam to that?

February 15th, 2007, 02:08 PM	#4
Pieter Jongerius Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 101	Robert, Yes, according to Chris's overview: http://www.hdvinfo.net/articles/cano...rehv10hv20.php I would hope that it would output full resolution anamorphic instead of letterboxed.

February 15th, 2007, 06:16 PM	#5
Rich Dykmans Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Discovery Bay, CA Posts: 138	It's letterboxed.

February 16th, 2007, 02:05 PM	#6
Pieter Jongerius Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 101	Bummer. Ah well they must have thought - this is the compatibility mode, let's make it compatible.

February 16th, 2007, 10:15 PM	#7
Colin Gould Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Foster City, CA Posts: 123	You should be able to set the TV Type in playback settings, eg 16:9 or 4:3, for composite and ?component outputs... can't test right now as I can't find my video cable :-P But, you should be able to play 16:9 format video in either letterboxed on 4:3 TVs, or normal on 16:9 TVs, just set output to match the TV type. I don't think it would have an option to zoom/crop ws video to 4:3 tv, only letterbox... manual p34: Play/Out Setup: "NORMAL TV], [ WIDE TV] In order to display the picture in full and in the correct aspect ratio, select the setting according to the type of television to which you will connect the camcorder. [NORMAL TV]: TV sets with 4:3 aspect ratio. [WIDE TV]: TV sets with 16:9 aspect ratio. You can set the component output to be 480i or 1080i. p59: "Playback on a TV Screen The quality of the playback picture will vary depending on the connected TV and the type of connection used. Change the following settings as necessary before making the connections. Refer to the corresponding explanation of each setting in the PLAY/OUT SETUP menu option list ( 34). - [PLAYBACK STD] to select the output video standard. - [TV TYPE] to match the output video to the aspect ratio of the connected TV. - [COMP.OUT] to select the video specifications when using connection type . - [DV OUTPUT] to select the standard of the output video when using connection type ."

February 17th, 2007, 12:06 AM	#8
Kevin A. Sturges Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 167	That is correct. You can playback HV10 HD footage to an SD TV and it down converts in real time. Either letterboxed 16:9 or full 4:3. The full mode is squeezed vertically to allow the entire frame.

February 17th, 2007, 10:35 AM	#10
Colin Gould Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Foster City, CA Posts: 123	Sorry your post got kind of hijacked! Perhaps the video cable isn't fully plugged in? It has an extra contact around the barrel for the video signal, along w/ normal stereo minijack contacts, and might not be in far enough to contact... ? Otherwise, there may also be a setting on your TV to select S-Video or composite in, maybe it's on SVideo?