Aha!! Now, I knew I 've seen this some place before, Thank You for reminding me.

Luis

Is information being thrown away or is it simply the in camera sharpening being turned down?

Any ideas as to shutter in Cine mode?
 

Chris, I think the Cine mode looks absolutely fantastic when combined with the 24P setting. Any idea if the Cine mode is setting the shutter at 48 or some other fixed value?
Regards, Alan

I agree Luis, this was a much fairer report than the one they gave on the HV10. I still would never buy or not buy a camera based soley on their reviews, but they seem to be trying to do a better job.

Can you still lock and set the exposure with the EXP button when Cine Mode is activated?

Well I think sharpness is being turned down - can this be reversed in vegas?
I like the contrast and gamma look otherwise - it just looks a little soft

I would assume if you want to add sharpening that there would be either a sharpen or unsharp mask filter that would do the same thing as the in camera sharpener. I'm no expert. On my Canon point and shoot turning down sharpening makes for a softer picture but a much more natural picture IMO. I'd rather just use Photoshop's unsharp mask anyway and set the sharpness to exactly what I would want later, same theory for video?

Here are two clips from the HV20 with Cinemode on and off.

This was shot late afternoon near the 59th Street Bridge.

24p+Cinemode ON http://www.filefactory.com/file/e20c24/

24p+Cinemode OFF http://www.filefactory.com/file/6a1618/

The files are about 22-24 megs each.

John, beautiful clips and what a great comparison of with and without cinema mode. The cinema mode on this clip looks amazing to me, very natural.

Thanks for uploading those. While I do like the cinemode, it leaves me feeling mushy in the blacks. I mean, I like the extra detail in the sky versus the hotspots in the 'off' clip, but with cinemode on I feel like there are no true blacks in the frame at all.

Nice comparison of the options. Thanks

thanks John just downloading now. Is it possible to edit the cine preset - it to just adjust the sharpness up while leaving the colour, gamma etc?


Cheers

I think so--The HV20 is tricky as you need to use the joystick to activate it.

You press it once...and you navigate using the joystick to EXPOSURE and select.

And then you have an option of increasing/decreasing exposure or leaving it alone.

This is one area where I wish the controls were more like the Sony PDX10.

Nope...you can't do anything with Cinemode on except adjust exposure if desired.

Thats a real shame - I love the look apart from the fact I think its a little too soft - I could always sharpen in vegas I guess

Thanks for the footage - really great comparison - just what I was looking for. Any more would be welcomed :)

I noticed that in cine mode the fine branches were visible on the right (middle) of the picture unlike the non cine mode where they were blown out

Here's one more, 24p and Cinemode on.

Looking down 5th Avenue in NYC. It is a 40 megabyte file.

http://www.filefactory.com/file/c31f23/