Proper Workflow for HV20 PAL 25P at DVinfo.net

Sevki Coemlek · May 22nd, 2007, 12:52 PM

In order to get 24p from 60i invercine telecine must be applied. But what is the workflow for PAL Version 25p. Is each frame double recorded? So we need only select each second frame?

Could someone clarify this?
Thanks in advance.
SC

Owen Meek · May 22nd, 2007, 01:48 PM

i looked this one up today because most topics cover NTSC making it some confusing for us Pal's..

no need for reverse telecine pulldown, the camera is actually recording progressive then splitting the same frame into interlaced fields giving a 50i workflow in post.

we have less to worry about i guess..

Sevki Coemlek · May 22nd, 2007, 03:39 PM

So this means, I just need a simple deinterlacer?

Enea Lanzarone · May 22nd, 2007, 05:24 PM

You don't need to deinterlace footage shot in 25P mode. It will look perfect on ANY equipment with no interlacing artifacts at all. When editing, you can even leave the standard PAL settings (interlaced) as they are. Only when you plan to add transitions, you'd better work in a project with "No fields", as interlaced transitions may look a bit odd on progressive footage.

That's all! ;)

Glenn Thomas · May 22nd, 2007, 08:09 PM

Enea I never thought that transitions would render interlaced like that if you're working in 50i? But I guess I hardly every use any myself. Although I have Vegas set to edit 25P as default anyway.

So in that case edit in 25P mode, but you can just as easily render completed files as either 50i or 25P and it won't make a difference.

Sevki Coemlek · May 23rd, 2007, 01:36 PM

Thanks a lot. Cant wait to hold this baby in my hand.

May 22nd, 2007, 12:52 PM	#1
Sevki Coemlek New Boot Join Date: May 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 5	Proper Workflow for HV20 PAL 25P In order to get 24p from 60i invercine telecine must be applied. But what is the workflow for PAL Version 25p. Is each frame double recorded? So we need only select each second frame? Could someone clarify this? Thanks in advance. SC

May 22nd, 2007, 08:09 PM	#5
Glenn Thomas Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 320	Enea I never thought that transitions would render interlaced like that if you're working in 50i? But I guess I hardly every use any myself. Although I have Vegas set to edit 25P as default anyway. So in that case edit in 25P mode, but you can just as easily render completed files as either 50i or 25P and it won't make a difference. __________________ Personal Website: http://www.avene.org

May 22nd, 2007, 01:48 PM	#2
Owen Meek Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 69	i looked this one up today because most topics cover NTSC making it some confusing for us Pal's.. no need for reverse telecine pulldown, the camera is actually recording progressive then splitting the same frame into interlaced fields giving a 50i workflow in post. we have less to worry about i guess..

May 22nd, 2007, 03:39 PM	#3
Sevki Coemlek New Boot Join Date: May 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 5	So this means, I just need a simple deinterlacer?

May 22nd, 2007, 05:24 PM	#4
Enea Lanzarone Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Switzerland Posts: 53	You don't need to deinterlace footage shot in 25P mode. It will look perfect on ANY equipment with no interlacing artifacts at all. When editing, you can even leave the standard PAL settings (interlaced) as they are. Only when you plan to add transitions, you'd better work in a project with "No fields", as interlaced transitions may look a bit odd on progressive footage. That's all! ;)

May 23rd, 2007, 01:36 PM	#6
Sevki Coemlek New Boot Join Date: May 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 5	Thanks a lot. Cant wait to hold this baby in my hand.